Are pastors afraid of preaching this to their church?

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HatedForNoReason

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Total Depravity - As a result of Adam’s fall, the entire human race is affected; all humanity is dead in trespasses and sins. Man is unable to save himself (Genesis 6:5; Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 3:10-18).

Unconditional Election - Because man is dead in sin, he is unable to initiate a response to God; therefore, in eternity past God elected certain people to salvation. Election and predestination are unconditional; they are not based on man’s response (Romans 8:29-30;9:11; Ephesians 1:4-6, 11-12) because man is unable to respond, nor does he want to.

Limited Atonement - Because God determined that certain ones should be saved as a result of God’s unconditional election, He determined that Christ should die for the elect alone. All whom God has elected and for whom Christ died will be saved (Matthew 1:21; John 10:11; 17:9; Acts 20:28; Romans 8:32; Ephesians 5:25).

Irresistible Grace - Those whom God elected He draws to Himself through irresistible grace. God makes man willing to come to Him. When God calls, man responds (John 6:37, 44; 10:16).

Perseverance of the Saints - The precise ones God has elected and drawn to Himself through the Holy Spirit will persevere in faith. None whom God has elected will be lost; they are eternally secure (John 10:27-29; Romans 8:29-30; Ephesians 1:3-14).

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HatedForNoReason said:
Total Depravity - As a result of Adam’s fall, the entire human race is affected; all humanity is dead in trespasses and sins. Man is unable to save himself (Genesis 6:5; Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 3:10-18).

Unconditional Election - Because man is dead in sin, he is unable to initiate a response to God; therefore, in eternity past God elected certain people to salvation. Election and predestination are unconditional; they are not based on man’s response (Romans 8:29-30;9:11; Ephesians 1:4-6, 11-12) because man is unable to respond, nor does he want to.

Limited Atonement - Because God determined that certain ones should be saved as a result of God’s unconditional election, He determined that Christ should die for the elect alone. All whom God has elected and for whom Christ died will be saved (Matthew 1:21; John 10:11; 17:9; Acts 20:28; Romans 8:32; Ephesians 5:25).

Irresistible Grace - Those whom God elected He draws to Himself through irresistible grace. God makes man willing to come to Him. When God calls, man responds (John 6:37, 44; 10:16).

Perseverance of the Saints - The precise ones God has elected and drawn to Himself through the Holy Spirit will persevere in faith. None whom God has elected will be lost; they are eternally secure (John 10:27-29; Romans 8:29-30; Ephesians 1:3-14).

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If I were a pastor I would be VERY afraid to "preach" that garbage in my church, because all of it is false doctrine. The Lord Jesus died, was buried, and rose again for every human being who has ever lived or ever will live> The Holy Spirit has tugged at everyone's heart, by the Word and by "nature itself". Men and women are "without excuse" simply because of unbelief. People refuse the wooing of the Holy Spirit of their own choice just like "Felix" did when Paul presented the Gospel to him.. We all refuse to believe things of our own free will....just like you will most likely refuse what I just typed here.
 
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HatedForNoReason said:
Total Depravity - As a result of Adam’s fall, the entire human race is affected; all humanity is dead in trespasses and sins. Man is unable to save himself (Genesis 6:5; Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 3:10-18).

Unconditional Election - Because man is dead in sin, he is unable to initiate a response to God; therefore, in eternity past God elected certain people to salvation. Election and predestination are unconditional; they are not based on man’s response (Romans 8:29-30;9:11; Ephesians 1:4-6, 11-12) because man is unable to respond, nor does he want to.

Limited Atonement - Because God determined that certain ones should be saved as a result of God’s unconditional election, He determined that Christ should die for the elect alone. All whom God has elected and for whom Christ died will be saved (Matthew 1:21; John 10:11; 17:9; Acts 20:28; Romans 8:32; Ephesians 5:25).

Irresistible Grace - Those whom God elected He draws to Himself through irresistible grace. God makes man willing to come to Him. When God calls, man responds (John 6:37, 44; 10:16).

Perseverance of the Saints - The precise ones God has elected and drawn to Himself through the Holy Spirit will persevere in faith. None whom God has elected will be lost; they are eternally secure (John 10:27-29; Romans 8:29-30; Ephesians 1:3-14).

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Nope, just many of us are not Calvinists and don't agree with his POV.
 
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HatedForNoReason said:
Total Depravity - As a result of Adam’s fall, the entire human race is affected; all humanity is dead in trespasses and sins. Man is unable to save himself (Genesis 6:5; Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 3:10-18).

Unconditional Election - Because man is dead in sin, he is unable to initiate a response to God; therefore, in eternity past God elected certain people to salvation. Election and predestination are unconditional; they are not based on man’s response (Romans 8:29-30;9:11; Ephesians 1:4-6, 11-12) because man is unable to respond, nor does he want to.

Limited Atonement - Because God determined that certain ones should be saved as a result of God’s unconditional election, He determined that Christ should die for the elect alone. All whom God has elected and for whom Christ died will be saved (Matthew 1:21; John 10:11; 17:9; Acts 20:28; Romans 8:32; Ephesians 5:25).

Irresistible Grace - Those whom God elected He draws to Himself through irresistible grace. God makes man willing to come to Him. When God calls, man responds (John 6:37, 44; 10:16).

Perseverance of the Saints - The precise ones God has elected and drawn to Himself through the Holy Spirit will persevere in faith. None whom God has elected will be lost; they are eternally secure (John 10:27-29; Romans 8:29-30; Ephesians 1:3-14).

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I see your Monika is 'Hated for no reason'. Could it be for your Calvinism?
 
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Shepherd said:
If I were a pastor I would be VERY afraid to "preach" that garbage in my church, because all of it is false doctrine. The Lord Jesus died, was buried, and rose again for every human being who has ever lived or ever will live> The Holy Spirit has tugged at everyone's heart, by the Word and by "nature itself". Men and women are "without excuse" simply because of unbelief. People refuse the wooing of the Holy Spirit of their own choice just like "Felix" did when Paul presented the Gospel to him.. We all refuse to believe things of our own free will....just like you will most likely refuse what I just typed here.
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It's more like most pastor's only carry about the money and don't dare offend people with the truth.
 
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I prayed to see what is the truth and the Holy Spirit said to me I'm not concerned with your theology but your heart. How about we stop caring about being right and loving each other.
 
Calvinism has neither spirit nor truth because it falsely portrays God as being a self-centered, unloving narcissist, not unlike "Allah".
 
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There are many Godly men which are Calvinist and many Godly men who are Arminian and this I know to be true.
 
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There are many Godly men which are Calvinist and many Godly men who are Arminian and this I know to be true.
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That is certainly true indeed. However, truth is not determined by a person's life or holines, but by the Word of God. An unbiased, objective study of God's Word will show that Calvinism lacks Scriptural backing.
 
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That is certainly true indeed. However, truth is not determined by a person's life or holines, but by the Word of God. An unbiased, objective study of God's Word will show that Calvinism lacks Scriptural backing.
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YOUR "interpretation" of the word of God which is circular. There are more important things to focus on.
 
I would agree with you if you were to say that a reformed theology is a minority point of view within all of Christianity and the apostolic churches and leave it at that.
 
jacko said:
I would agree with you if you were to say that a reformed theology is a minority point of view within all of Christianity and the apostolic churches and leave it at that.
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I stand amongst a long line of great people from John Wesley, John Fletcher and Wesleyan and Arminian scholars who have exposed Calvinism for the error that it is.
 
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I stand amongst a long line of great people from John Wesley, John Fletcher and Wesleyan and Arminian scholars who have exposed Calvinism for the error that it is.
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yet many God fearing reformed pastors have led souls to Christ in repentance.
 
HatedForNoReason said:
(TULIP doctrines)
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Are preachers “afraid” of preaching this material? No. They just don’t because it is not biblically sound. Injecting “fear” into the argument is assuming the unassailable correctness of five-point Calvinism.

Stop assuming. Start reading Scripture without your tulip-coloured glasses on.
 
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