“How are the things forbidden by the Lord God applied in today’s generation?”

[Godsgood]

DEUTORONOMY 14:6-8
6 And every beast that parteth the hoof, and cleaveth the cleft into two claws, and cheweth the cud among the beasts, that ye shall eat.

7 Nevertheless these ye shall not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the cloven hoof; as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof; therefore they are unclean unto you.

8 And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase.

 

[Dino246]

DEUTORONOMY 14:6-8
6 And every beast that parteth the hoof, and cleaveth the cleft into two claws, and cheweth the cud among the beasts, that ye shall eat.

7 Nevertheless these ye shall not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the cloven hoof; as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof; therefore they are unclean unto you.

8 And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase.

“The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭4‬:‭1‬-‭5‬ ‭NIV‬‬

 

[Ceph]

To chew the cud is to meditate on the word, and to have the hoof split is to consider both the earth and the heavens in your steps.

A camel is someone who follows something like a 'prosperity gospel';
A rabbit is a creature who ravenously fornicates;
and a pig knows that God exists but doesn't care about what He says.

 

[Gideon300]

DEUTORONOMY 14:6-8
6 And every beast that parteth the hoof, and cleaveth the cleft into two claws, and cheweth the cud among the beasts, that ye shall eat.

7 Nevertheless these ye shall not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the cloven hoof; as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof; therefore they are unclean unto you.

8 And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase.

They are noteth. Godeth declareth all animals cleaneth. (Acts 10)

 

[memberofthebride]

“The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭4‬:‭1‬-‭5‬ ‭NIV‬‬

lets not bring up Noah showning which animals God created as food for us or the fact Peter never ate any thing common or unclean and this was at least a few weeks after Christ had returned to the Father and after 3 1/2 years of intense instruction in that ONE perfect Way.

So either Peter did not get the memo or some one has things a little misunderstood.

I wonder why hogs were never offered to God as a Sacrifice??
and the abomination in 70 AD, I believe a pig was involved.

my uncle was a hog farmer --- you may have my share.

 

[Dino246]

lets not bring up Noah showning which animals God created as food for us or the fact Peter never ate any thing common or unclean and this was at least a few weeks after Christ had returned to the Father and after 3 1/2 years of intense instruction in that ONE perfect Way.

So either Peter did not get the memo or some one has things a little misunderstood.

I wonder why hogs were never offered to God as a Sacrifice??
and the abomination in 70 AD, I believe a pig was involved.

my uncle was a hog farmer --- you may have my share.

Noah? Well, since you mentioned him…

“Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭9‬:‭3‬ ‭NIV‬‬

 

[tablet123]

DEUTORONOMY 14:6-8
6 And every beast that parteth the hoof, and cleaveth the cleft into two claws, and cheweth the cud among the beasts, that ye shall eat.

7 Nevertheless these ye shall not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the cloven hoof; as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof; therefore they are unclean unto you.

8 And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Some people will depart from the truth of the Bible and accept a different interpretation based on the occult, and reverence for mother nature.

The time will come they will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but want to hear it according to their own lusts which is when the antichrist pushes that false interpretation with all religions interpreted that way.

Which is a trick of the devil to get them to think all religions are compatible.

Which they acknowledge Jesus but not as Lord and Savior.

Since they reverence nature they will not allow the eating of animals.

But God said all meat is good to eat now because it is a spiritual covenant so it is clean.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Jesus took away the physical ordinances of Israel which includes the separation between clean and unclean animals.

So let no one judge you in meats.

The physical ordinances had no bearing on spiritual salvation but only applied during the Old Testament physical covenant with physical blessings.

In the New Testament love is the fulfilling of the law.

But if a person believes they cannot eat pork and they eat it then it is a sin.

Even though it is not a sin if they acknowledge the truth.

 

[memberofthebride]

Noah? Well, since you mentioned him…

“Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭9‬:‭3‬ ‭NIV‬‬

So poison ivy is food? it's a green plant, there are many green plants we can not eat, they will kill us.

you get the point, yes God created our food to come from many varieties. God is a God of variety,
Show me even one of the people of God eating hogs, or frogs or vultures
one scripture does not make a doctrine.

 

[Dino246]

So poison ivy is food? it's a green plant, there are many green plants we can not eat, they will kill us.

you get the point, yes God created our food to come from many varieties. God is a God of variety,
Show me even one of the people of God eating hogs, or frogs or vultures
one scripture does not make a doctrine.

You are welcome to interpret God's word your way. I will not impose my interpretation on you, and I request the same courtesy.

 

[tablet123]

Gen 9:3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Before the flood no mention of God allowing the eating of meat.

After the flood they could eat meat.

Before the Old Covenant they could eat whatever creature they wanted.

The Old Testament was a physical covenant so it had physical laws and unclean and clean animals.

After the Old Covenant we can eat any meat again.

Lev 19:19 Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.

Deu 22:9 Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with divers seeds: lest the fruit of thy seed which thou hast sown, and the fruit of thy vineyard, be defiled.
Deu 22:10 Thou shalt not plow with an ox and an ass together.
Deu 22:11 Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together.

Physical covenant had physical laws.

It could be mixing unlike things was associated with the superstitious or idolatrous rituals of neighboring nations.

It could represent the concept of holiness, reminding the Israelites to remain a "set apart" and uncompromised people.

So clean and unclean animals.

The New Covenant is spiritual and applies to the world.

So the physical laws do not apply to cause a separation.

For the separation is being with Jesus and the spiritual laws.

 

[memberofthebride]

You are welcome to interpret God's word your way. I will not impose my interpretation on you, and I request the same courtesy.

I do not want interpretations I want TRUTH.

 

[Dino246]

I do not want interpretations I want TRUTH.

Likewise.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

I do not want interpretations I want TRUTH.

To get truth you have to run it through your mind in order to interpret the text. The spirit will witness what is and isn't true.

 

[memberofthebride]

To get truth you have to run it through your mind in order to interpret the text. The spirit will witness what is and isn't true.

no interpretation, no running through the mind required --"if you Agape ME keep my Commandments"

HE did not say my 'new" commandments,

the only word that requires understanding is Agape, Godly type love, which few understand as it is spiritual.

 

[Godsgood]

DEUTORONOMY 14:6-8
6 And every beast that parteth the hoof, and cleaveth the cleft into two claws, and cheweth the cud among the beasts, that ye shall eat.

7 Nevertheless these ye shall not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the cloven hoof; as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof; therefore they are unclean unto you.

8 And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase.

Aside from the animals which are written in Deut 14:6-8.
Can you name another Animals?

1. Which animals have split hooves and chew the cud, and are allowed to be eaten?
2. Which animals chew the cud but do not have split hooves, and therefore should not be eaten?
3. Which animals have split hooves but do not chew the cud and should not be eaten too?

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

HE did not say my 'new" commandments,

He actually did. Those that follow the old words of Moses instead of the new words of Christ are in danger of being like the pharisees who in trying to establish their own righteousness did not submit to the righteousness of God.

I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. Deuteronomy 18:18-19​

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For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. Romans 10:2-4​

 

[TruthDefender]

No interpretation is needed:

“All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,”
‭‭II Timothy‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Prophecy and tongues are in 1 Cor 14. However, these I believe have truly ceased after the Apostles died.

Interesting verse:

“Therefore tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophesying is not for unbelievers but for those who believe.”
‭‭I Corinthians‬ ‭14‬:‭22‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

 

[memberofthebride]

He actually did. Those that follow the old words of Moses instead of the new words of Christ are in danger of being like the pharisees who in trying to establish their own righteousness did not submit to the righteousness of God.

I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. Deuteronomy 18:18-19​

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For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. Romans 10:2-4​

Nope,, no sale

using all scripture O & N NOTHING HAS CHANGED

Just using what God, actually Christ, said about David means nothing has changed!

21 And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by the space of forty years.
22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony,
and said, " I" have found David the [son] of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.

David, a lover of the Torah, has the same nature as God.
It is impossible for God to Change His nature, which is revealed to man by HIS Torah.

I would bother to post Psalms 119 in which David proclaims all thy commandments are Righteousness - in 119 ways.

I also know I can not, by any means, open the minds of others --- that is only done by the Father.
But I can lay the truth out in the open -- proving 2 plus 2 does equal 4

 

[Dino246]

Nope,, no sale

using all scripture O & N NOTHING HAS CHANGED

Just using what God, actually Christ, said about David means nothing has changed!

David, a lover of the Torah, has the same nature as God.
It is impossible for God to Change His nature, which is revealed to man by HIS Torah.

I would bother to post Psalms 119 in which David proclaims all thy commandments are Righteousness - in 119 ways.

I also know I can not, by any means, open the minds of others --- that is only done by the Father.
But I can lay the truth out in the open -- proving 2 plus 2 does equal 4

So you still stone adulterers? Interesting.

 

[memberofthebride]

So you still stone adulterers? Interesting.

The Government of God is NOT on earth, yet. Temple is gone, High priest is gone.
Not my job to judge, and i thank God for that.
All judgment the Father gave to Christ
when Christ returns as KING of Kings, He will judge, He will condemn, He will put to death those that refuse to obey HIS LAW.

How is it the majority of the words of Christ are ignored -- as they are and must be??

27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay [them] before me.

Jesus Christ is stating --- those that will not obey HE will put to death. and slay [them] before me.

What do you suppose is the reason?? because some one will not allow Christ into their heart?? Reallllly?

Explain how this fits in with this supposed doctrine of grace?? and this is N T

Not a chance I will accept any thing from Rome or the 45,000 kinds of confusions