Repentance and Keeping Commandments is only the beginning of salvation.

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Mat 25:34
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:


Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

Mat 25:41
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

And so we see the judgment of works, is that only the righteous doing good, shall enter into the kingdom of God. But the wicked unrighteous shall not enter, because they are them that do not good.

Jas 4:17
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

3Jo 1:11
Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

Following evil is not only committing evil, but is also by not following and doing good.

Therefore, keeping the commandments of God and not committing evil transgression is entrance into the kingdom of God, but is only the beginning of following and doing the good.

Keeping the Lord's commandments, and doing the good we know to do by God and man, is the everlasting way of the righteous and good kingdom of Jesus Christ:

2 Pet 1:10
Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Those who keep His commandments to commit no trespass against Him, must go on to do those good things worthy of the kingdom of God to abide therein forever .

Rev{3:4}
Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

 

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Mat 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Keepers of God's commandments alone can indeed call Him Lord as lawful servants, but keeping the law alone without also doing good at hand, is not doing the will of God to please Him in all things and abide forever.

Jhn 8:29
And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

But, unrepented unrighteous transgressors of God's commandments never enter in to defile His righteous kingdom, much less abide in His holy city forever:
Rev 22:14
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

 

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Wrong. You have it backwards. Those verses clearly state that the activity of God...giving a new heart and giving His Spirit...leads to obedience.

Wow. Does that mean you win? If so, way to go! A disobedient transgressor of God's commandment has a new heart and spirit and justified with Christ, because the transgressor believes in Christ!

Doctrinal repartee and bromides do not get unrepented transgressors and evil doers into God's kingdom.

The Spirit of Christ is not 'active' in anyone transgressing the Lord's commandments.

Rom 2:3
And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?...For there is no respect of persons with God.

Whatever combination of words someone wants to preach and teach, No transgressor doing committing fornication is in the kingdom of God. No trasngressor committing theft is saved and justified by Jesus Christ. No transgressor committing murder is abiding with God.

This is where all the winning words fall apart, by the actions people are doing. it's not words that win, but keeping commandments and doing the good will of God.

James{1:22}
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

1Jo 3:18
My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

They do not say we choose and then God acts. They reveal that God acts and we respond.

The words of God reveal that man repents of transgressing His commandments, and God acts to wash, sanctify, and justify them, that now keep His commandments and do good:

Ezek 18:31
Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

1 Cor 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind…Gal 5:19 and such like of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

The unrepented transgressors of God's commandments can preach and teach themselves righteous and justified by their faith and mouths alone, but only those righteous doing good and not evil, shall enter and abide forever in the kingdom of Jesus Christ the righteous.

Rom 16:18
For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
Any gospel of transgressors, that preaches justification with God, while continuing to do ungodly things, is the justifying light of Satan, not the true light of Jesus Christ.

Gal 1:6
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

2Co 11:13
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Talking people can win at words, but only doing God's will abides forever.

Transgressors are saved from transgressing God's commandments. Repented keepers of God's commandments are justified to do His good will, and not evil.

 

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Wow. Does that mean you win? If so, way to go! A disobedient transgressor of God's commandment has a new heart and spirit and justified with Christ, because the transgressor believes in Christ!

Doctrinal repartee and bromides do not get unrepented transgressors and evil doers into God's kingdom.

The Spirit of Christ is not 'active' in anyone transgressing the Lord's commandments.

Rom 2:3
And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?...For there is no respect of persons with God.

Whatever combination of words someone wants to preach and teach, No transgressor doing committing fornication is in the kingdom of God. No trasngressor committing theft is saved and justified by Jesus Christ. No transgressor committing murder is abiding with God.

This is where all the winning words fall apart, by the actions people are doing. it's not words that win, but keeping commandments and doing the good will of God.

James{1:22}
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

1Jo 3:18
My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.




The words of God reveal that man repents of transgressing His commandments, and God acts to wash, sanctify, and justify them, that now keep His commandments and do good:

Ezek 18:31
Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

1 Cor 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind…Gal 5:19 and such like of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

The unrepented transgressors of God's commandments can preach and teach themselves righteous and justified by their faith and mouths alone, but only those righteous doing good and not evil, shall enter and abide forever in the kingdom of Jesus Christ the righteous.

Rom 16:18
For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
Any gospel of transgressors, that preaches justification with God, while continuing to do ungodly things, is the justifying light of Satan, not the true light of Jesus Christ.

Gal 1:6
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

2Co 11:13
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Talking people can win at words, but only doing God's will abides forever.

Transgressors are saved from transgressing God's commandments. Repented keepers of God's commandments are justified to do His good will, and not evil.

So read afresh what Ezekiel 36:27. What does it say leads to obedience?

 

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Again, according to Ezekiel 36:26-27, what is the cause of obedience?

Until you understand this, you will continue to err.

You win in words again? Great job! Only by winning in words, can someone outwit obedience by disobedience.

The obedient is erring by not giving the proper 'words' for cause of obedience. Jesus Christ is the cause of all obedience to God.

What's the cause of disobedience? Not Jesus Christ.

And this was my point to begin with: it is God who comes to mankind and effectuates the conditions in man that lead to positive response towards God. Short of God initiating a relationship with man and creating a new person, man will not approach God.

Effectuates and initiates to boot!! Winning words indeed.

And when is disobedient transgression a positive response? Who is the transgressor responding to? How effectual is the initiative that leads to doing evil?

BTW...submitting to God is obedience. Cannot happen without a new heart and the indwelling Spirit.

'Submitting' to God is obedience indeed. Does that include deeds?

Is anyone that is transgressing God's commandment, committing fornication, thieving, making a lie, murdering...submitting to God?

All such great words learned in a doctrinal row fall apart, when anyone is doing evil against God's commandments and will.

OSAS faith-alone justification is built upon words of justification alone, not upon the cause of all justification with God: Obedient actions for Jesus Christ.

Mat 7:26
And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand. And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

People can win in words, but the only thing an act of transgression wins with God, is condemnation and shame.

 

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You win in words again? Great job! Only by winning in words, can someone outwit obedience by disobedience.

The obedient is erring by not giving the proper 'words' for cause of obedience. Jesus Christ is the cause of all obedience to God.

What's the cause of disobedience? Not Jesus Christ.





Effectuates and initiates to boot!! Winning words indeed.

And when is disobedient transgression a positive response? Who is the transgressor responding to? How effectual is the initiative that leads to doing evil?




'Submitting' to God is obedience indeed. Does that include deeds?

Is anyone that is transgressing God's commandment, committing fornication, thieving, making a lie, murdering...submitting to God?

All such great words learned in a doctrinal row fall apart, when anyone is doing evil against God's commandments and will.

OSAS faith-alone justification is built upon words of justification alone, not upon the cause of all justification with God: Obedient actions for Jesus Christ.

Mat 7:26
And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand. And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

People can win in words, but the only thing an act of transgression wins with God, is condemnation and shame.

You seem to have a chip on your shoulder. You don't seem to understand the effects of the fall and the natural estate of fallen man. The answer is found in what God does to undo what sin has done.

The beauty of the new covenant is that God in Christ does all that is necessary to reconcile fallen man to Himself. Through Christ's sacrifice, our sins are propitiated. But we will continue to sin and despise God if that is the extent of God's activity. Instead, God gives us a new and uncorrupted spirit and heart, and the indwelling Spirit so that our new divine nature will respond to God.

 

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Actually you were inferring that God does it all and man has zero responsibility which is not biblical

Not exactly. Learning the proper words is necessary. Their sole responsibility is to have the words properly learned. That's why everyone who has them says the same words in the same way, more or less. It's all about the words, you see? Even the obedient are in error, if they don't have the 'words of power'.

So long as the words are proper about the 'cause' of obedience, their hands are clean of any responsibility for their deeds.

OSAS faith-alone justification: The words of their mouths alone cleanse their hands of guilt, when committing trespass against God's commandments.

Rev 13:5
And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies;

All that matters is the learned words of power, to justify the disobedience, and cause the obedient to err...

 

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Actually you were inferring that God does it all and man has zero responsibility which is not biblical

The 'free salvation' by faith-alone, with zero-responsibility for actions, is the justification of the self-righteous . Their 'effectual' power words are: "Jesus finished work on the cross..." means they cannot have any responsibility in their salvation and justification with God, except by the power words of 'Faith-Alone'.

They say they have no responsibility for justification by works, because they had no responsibility with Jesus' work on the cross. Which was dying for sins.

Who then has no responsibility for Jesus' work of dying for sins on the cross? The righteous that had not sinned. Only sinners that sinned are the cause for Jesus coming to die for sins. And only sinners crucified Him on a cross to die for sins.

Those who had no part in Jesus' work on the cross, had no sins for Him to come and die for, nor was crucified by. Only sinners are therefore called to repent of crucifying Jesus and dying for their sins:

Mark 2;17
When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Since they did nothing for Jesus to die for, they had nothing to do with His work on the cross. And so need do nothing to be justified with Him.

Only sinners have personal responsibility for Jesus work of coming to die for sins on a cross, and so only they need personally repent of His death by sinful hands.

The righteous by Faith-Alone have no need to personally repent of His death on a cross, because they had no personal responsibility for Jesus needing to come to do so:

Luk 24:7
Jesus Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.

'Free salvation' of no-responsibility justification, is the do-nothing religion of the self righteous by Faith-Alone.

 

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So all the actual scholars ate wrong & you're right?

2 Timothy{6:20}
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called.

All scholars justifying transgressors by their faith-alone are wrong, and only Scripture is right:

Ezek 18:31
Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

Acts 3:19
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

2 Cor {7:10}
For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of:
There is no salvation of Jesus Christ without repenting of transgressions. There is no justification of Jesus Christ for anyone transgressing His commandments.

All the talk of words saying otherwise, fall apart by what people do and are judged by:

1 Peter {1:15}
But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man’s work, pass the time of your sojourning [here] in fear:

Rev{20:12}
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

More help for the deceived:

Mark 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
(MY NOTE: He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Also see Mat 3:11, Lk 3:16 & Jn 1:33)

Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words: Salvation

(b) of the spiritual and eternal deliverance granted immediately by God to those who accept His conditions of repentance and faith in the Lord Jesus, in whom alone it is to be obtained, Acts 4:12, and upon confession of Him as Lord, Romans 10:10; for this purpose the gospel is the saving instrument, Romans 1:16; Ephesians 1:13
(NOTE: ""Eternal deliverance granted immediately by God"" to those who accept His conditions of repentance towards God & faith towards the Lord Jesus)

2 Tim 1:14 Refers to the Holy Spirit as a Good Deposit.

2 Cor 5:5, Eph 1:14 & 2 Cor 1:22. Refer to the Holy Spirit as "the earnest" = Deposit or Pledge.

Eph 1:13, 2 Cor 1:22 & Eph 4:30 Refer to the Holy Spirit as a Seal.

2 Tim 1:14 The Holy Spirit who dwells within us, guard the good deposit entrusted to you
(MY NOTE: The Holy Spirit dwelling within us <PRESENT TENSE). Is God's good deposit)

2 Cor 5:5 God, who also hath given unto us the "earnest" of the Spirit
(MY NOTE: Cor written to believers: God has <PAST TENSE, given/DONE DEAL)

2 Cor 1:22 Who hath also "sealed us" & "given the earnest" of the Holy Spirit in our hearts
(MY NOTE: God has given <PAST TENSE/DONE DEAL > Holy Spirit. His DEPOSIT/PLEDGE/PROMISE & SEAL, until the soon coming day of our final redemption)

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
(MY NOTE: The gospel of your salvation: you believed & were <PAST TENSE > sealed/DONE DEAL with God's salvation sealing Holy Spirit promise)

Eph1:14 Which is the "earnest" of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession
(MY NOTE: The Holy Spirit by which only Christ baptizes/seals & indwells us. Is God's earnest = a down paymnt/pledge)

Eph 4:30 grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are "sealed" unto the day of redemption
(MY NOTE: Believers are SEALED until their next unrepentant sin? NO! SEALED until the day they receive their heavenly body. Christ's indwelling Holy Spirit is Christ"s pledge/promise that he will come for every believer. The jews received tis Promise At the Acts 2 Pentecost, the gentiles at Acts 10 Cornelius & now any/evert jew of gentile that believes is Christ deatrh & resurrection.)

1 Jn 5:13 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
(MY NOTE: That you may know ""PRESENT TENSE"" that you have <RIGHT NOW > eternal life. That's anyone that BELIEVES on the Son of God!)

Acts 10:
43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
(MY NOTE: Whoever BELIEVES in Christ (until their nest slip-up/sin? NOPE) shall receive remission of sins.

44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
(MY NOTE: Thru FAITH ALONE! These gentiles that BELIEVED were FOREVER SEALED with Christ' ETERNAL LIFE giving Holy Spirit!)

Acts 11:
15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
(MY NORE: Peter reconfirms: the by FAITH ALONE, Acts 10 eternal life SEALING/giving of the Holy Spirit)

16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.

Acts 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
(MY NOTE: Jew or gentile PUTIFIED by FAITH!)

Vine's Expository Dictionary of NT Words: SEAL

(d) ownership and security, together with destination are conveyed in Ephesians 1:13, in the metaphor of the "sealing" of believers by the gift of the Holy Spirit, upon believing (i.e., at the time of their regeneration, not after a lapse of time in their spiritual life, "having also believed," not as AV, "after that ye believed;" the aorist participle marks the definiteness and completeness of the act of faith); the idea of destination is stressed by the phrase "the Holy Spirit of promise" (see also Ephesians 1:14 ); so Ephesians 4:30 , "ye were sealed unto the day of redemption;" so in 2 Corinthians 1:22 , where the Middle Voice intimates the special interest of the Sealer in His act; (e) authentication by the believer (by receiving the witness of the Son) of the fact that "God is true
(NOTE: Vines confirms the meaning I presented in Ephesians 1:14 ); so Ephesians 4:30 & 2 Corinthians 1:22. Salvation SEALED FOREVER!)

Vines Expository Dictionary - "arrabon", noun, Strongs ref #728 - EARNEST:

Originally, "earnest-money" deposited by the purchaser. In general usage it came to denote "a pledge" or "earnest" of any sort; in the NT it is used only of that which is assured by God to believers; it is said of the Holy Spirit as the Divine "pledge" of all their future blessedness, 2 Cor 1:22, 5:5, Eph 1:14, 4:30, 2 Timothy 1:14
(NOTE: Vines confirms the meaning I presented in 2 Cor 1:22, 5:5, Eph 1:14, 4:30, 2 Timothy 1:14 Salvation SEALED FOREVER!)

Ecc 12:12
And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
And those doing evil are condemned, and those doing righteousness are righteous of the Lord.

And no amount of expositories, depositories, conveyances, and stressings, will escape the transgressor from condemnation with all transgressors:

Rom 2:3
And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?...For there is no respect of persons with God.

 

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You missed on one point. While God created all things good and very good, that is not the estate of mankind today.

God still creates all things good, and men women in His own image.

Rev 4:11
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Jhn 1:2
The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men…That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

And all babes created by God are lighted by Christ coming into the world.

Jesus Christ the Maker has not changed, and the god of this world is not creating nor making any person in his own sinful image from the womb.

All transgressors sin by their own lust of their own hearts. No newborn babe is made by Jesus Christ sinfully and unrighteously from the womb. No sinner can blame God for "making them that way..."

Jas 1:13
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

Your personal 'estate' of unrighteous sinful deeds, is all your doing and your condemnation alone...

According to Romans 3, there are none righteous, nor any who do good.

According to Paul's quote of Ps 14 for the unrighteous, there are no unbelievers toward God, that are righteous and good in His sight.

Ps 14:1
The fool saith in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Anyone quoting for themselves the condemnation of Scriptures for the unrighteous, condemn themselves by their own transgressions.

All have been marred by sin.

Only because all have sinned by their own lust. Not because God creates and makes them that way...

Rom 5:12
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
If someone continues transgressing God's commandments, it's only by their own unrepented lust and unbelief toward God:

Jhn 8:29
And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

Rev 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Gal 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

God alone remains good.

And God sons alone do good and not evil.

3 John{1:11}
Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that is doing good is of God: but he that is doing evil hath not seen God.

This is what makes salvation necessary for all.

For all have sinned, and so all must be saved from sins and trespasses, by which man falls from the creation of God in His image.

Gen 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Ezek 18:4
Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Mat 1:21
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sinning.

It is also what makes all disobedient.

Disobedience is what makes a child of disobedience. Transgression is what makes a child of the devil.

1Jo 3:8
He that is committing sin is of the devil; for the devil is sinning from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Repenting from sinning and transgressing against God for Jesus' sake, is when God makes a newborn creation in the image of Jesus Christ.

The only way to change this is through the new covenant promise of a new heart and spirit, and the indwelling Spirit who causes us to walk in His statutes.

For them that repent of their disobedience and transgressions, and now keep His commandments and go good.

No transgressor breaking God's commandments has any covenant of promise and Spirit of God, not walking in His statutes.

What the old covenant could not do having God's laws written on tablets of stone, the new covenant accomplishes by writing directly into our hearts. That's the beauty of the new covenant.

For them repented from transgressing God's law, and doing His law from a pure heart, written in the blood of Jesus Christ risen from the dead.

Any transgressor defiling His law, still has the guilt of His blood upon their hands.

Act 2:22
Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?...Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Jas 4:6
Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

Heb 6:5
But, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

 

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God still creates all things good, and men women in His own image.

Rev 4:11
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Jhn 1:2
The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men…That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

And all babes created by God are lighted by Christ coming into the world.

Jesus Christ the Maker has not changed, and the god of this world is not creating nor making any person in his own sinful image from the womb.

All transgressors sin by their own lust of their own hearts. No newborn babe is made by Jesus Christ sinfully and unrighteously from the womb. No sinner can blame God for "making them that way..."

Jas 1:13
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

Your personal 'estate' of unrighteous sinful deeds, is all your doing and your condemnation alone...


According to Paul's quote of Ps 14 for the unrighteous, there are no unbelievers toward God, that are righteous and good in His sight.

Ps 14:1
The fool saith in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Anyone quoting for themselves the condemnation of Scriptures for the unrighteous, condemn themselves by their own transgressions.








Only because all have sinned by their own lust. Not because God creates and makes them that way...

Rom 5:12
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
If someone continues transgressing God's commandments, it's only by their own unrepented lust and unbelief toward God:

Jhn 8:29
And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

Rev 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Gal 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.


And God sons alone do good and not evil.

3 John{1:11}
Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that is doing good is of God: but he that is doing evil hath not seen God.



For all have sinned, and so all must be saved from sins and trespasses, by which man falls from the creation of God in His image.

Gen 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Ezek 18:4
Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Mat 1:21
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sinning.



Disobedience is what makes a child of disobedience. Transgression is what makes a child of the devil.

1Jo 3:8
He that is committing sin is of the devil; for the devil is sinning from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Repenting from sinning and transgressing against God for Jesus' sake, is when God makes a newborn creation in the image of Jesus Christ.


For them that repent of their disobedience and transgressions, and now keep His commandments and go good.

No transgressor breaking God's commandments has any covenant of promise and Spirit of God, not walking in His statutes.




For them repented from transgressing God's law, and doing His law from a pure heart, written in the blood of Jesus Christ risen from the dead.

Any transgressor defiling His law, still has the guilt of His blood upon their hands.

Act 2:22
Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?...Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Jas 4:6
Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

Heb 6:5
But, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Like I, you don't understand the estate of the fallen natural man. Until you fo, you will never understand what is necessary for man.

Grace and peace.

 

[ATG]

Repent is a change of mind, heart..not a lot of works.

Perfect: Repentance without works for faith without works. Even faith-alone has it's own repentance, alone without works.

Isa 55:7
Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

Ezek 18:31
Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

Dan {4:27}
Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee, and break off thy sins by righteousness, and thine iniquities by shewing mercy to the poor; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquility.

Repenting without change of works, is not repenting of mind nor heart.

Transgressors must repent God's way from our transgressions, not their own way from thoughts alone.

God repented what He did with Israel and that was a change of mind.

And did not do what He was doing.

He repented Himself of making man on earth, and destroyed them by a flood. That was a change of works.

No change of works, no repentance with God.

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ..that's not an act of good works. It's a change of mind, heart.

And so, believing on the Lord Jesus Christ is not a good work.

Matth 12:37
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned…for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

Only to them that have faith-alone in thoughts, but not in deeds.

1Jo 3:18
My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
No one not doing an act of good work, is believing on the Lord Jesus Christ.

Jas 2:17
Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

 

[wattie]

Perfect: Repentance without works for faith without works. Even faith-alone has it's own repentance, alone without works.

Isa 55:7
Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

Ezek 18:31
Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

Dan {4:27}
Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee, and break off thy sins by righteousness, and thine iniquities by shewing mercy to the poor; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquility.

Repenting without change of works, is not repenting of mind nor heart.

Transgressors must repent God's way from our transgressions, not their own way from thoughts alone.



And did not do what He was doing.

He repented Himself of making man on earth, and destroyed them by a flood. That was a change of works.

No change of works, no repentance with God.


And so, believing on the Lord Jesus Christ is not a good work.

Matth 12:37
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned…for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

Only to them that have faith-alone in thoughts, but not in deeds.

1Jo 3:18
My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
No one not doing an act of good work, is believing on the Lord Jesus Christ.

Jas 2:17
Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

Well, for the millionth time.. at least with James 2, the context is about what someone who already has faith, already converted, does with their faith.

Faith without works is dead, doesn't mean saving faith without works is dead.

Compare James here with Paul in the likes of Romans 5:8, and Abraham being justified by faith before he offered up his son Isaac.

Abraham being prepared to offer up his son was a justified work.. but not justification for eternal life. That justification happened earlier, made righteous without works.

 

[ATG]

I think you confuse justification with sanctification.

You confuse transgressors' partial sanctification with God's whole sanctification. The utnepentant want instant eternal salvation, but not the same sanctification.

Jesus Christ only grants whole hearted repentance for one and the same:

1 Cor 6:11
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Heb 2:11
For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren.

Jesus gave all His life for sins, and accepts nothing less than for all sins to be repented of. He does not accept partial surrender of His enemies:

Psa 110:1
The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

We aren't justified before God by anything we do...

Not by anything transgressors do, because no man is justified before God by doing anything against Him.

Only them that repent of doing evil are justified with God by doing good.

by works of the law is no flesh justified...Galatians 2:16.

Abraham and Rahab were not justified by works of the law, but by works of faith in God's word of promise.

Keeping His commandments are the only beginning of God's kingdom, where transgressors do not enter. But keeping the law is only the beginning of walking with the Lord by His word of faith.

The only thing our works do is manifest that we have been justified.

The only thing transgressions do is manifest that you are not washed, sanctified, nor justified.

Abraham believed God because He had been justified.

Abraham was justified when he offered up Isaac by faith, because he believed God would raise him from the dead...

Heb 11:17
By faith Abraham, when he was tried, and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead;

His obedience demonstrated that God had justified him.

His obedience justified Him with God.

James{2:21}
Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?...Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

James{2:21}
Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only…Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?

If they were already justified by works before offering up Isaac, and receiving the spies, what works were they?

Grace always has God initiating and accomplishing salvation.

For them that repent of their transgressions, to do good and not evil.

Eze 33:14
Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right; If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die. None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live.

God remembers the evil deeds of them that repent not.

3Jo 1:9
I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not. Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church.

He is the cause of the change in us.

He is not the cause of any change in them that transgress against Him. Whether it be from doing good to doing evil, or doing less evil that before.

He is the only cause of them that change from doing evil to doing good.

 

[GWH]

Sanctification and heaven are the end of salvation.

 

[ATG]

So read afresh what Ezekiel 36:27. What does it say leads to obedience?

Repenting from disobedience.

What leads to disobedience?

 

[Cameron143]

Repenting from disobedience.

What leads to disobedience?

Disobedience is the predilection of fallen natural man. No one is born a believer. None have faith. Without faith, it is impossible to please God.

You still don't understand the true condition of the fallen natural man. This is leading you to poor doctrine.

 

[ATG]

You don't seem to understand the effects of the fall and the natural estate of fallen man. The answer is found in what God does to undo what sin has done.

God undoes people sinning against Him.

He grants His repentance from all sinning against Him.

The beauty of the new covenant is that God in Christ does all that is necessary to reconcile fallen man to Himself.

True. Jesus died for sins to be repented of, and by His resurrection grants repentance from sinning against Him.

Them that repent not and continue sinning against Him, remain separated from Him forever.

Through Christ's sacrifice, our sins are propitiated.

Through sinful man crucifying Jesus Christ, all men that sin are condemned with His death.

All are judged guilty of shedding Jesus' innocent blood at the cross.

Rom 3:19
Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

Gal 3:22
But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

Rom{11:32}
For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

All that repent by His resurrection are forgiven of their past sinning against Him, and made righteous believers doing His will.

But we will continue to sin and despise God if that is the extent of God's activity.

True. No sinner can repent of sinning against Christ unto death, if He is not raised from the dead.

1Cor 15:16
For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.

Only by Jesus rising from the dead, can He forgive them that repent of sinning unto His death.

Instead, God gives us a new and uncorrupted spirit and heart, and the indwelling Spirit so that our new divine nature will respond to God.

True. To all that repent of crucifying His Son on the cross and their own sins, He washes, sanctifies, and justifies them for His righteousness' sake.

Mat 1:21
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sinning.
Rom 4:25
Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
Rom 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

 

[ATG]

Like I, you don't understand the estate of the fallen natural man. Until you fo, you will never understand what is necessary for man.

Like many, you want to believe Christ now makes man sinners from the womb, that the impenitent can blame God for their continued sinning against Him.

Grace and peace.

2Jo 1:9
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

 

[Cameron143]

Like many, you want to believe Christ now makes man sinners from the womb, that the impenitent can blame God for their continued sinning against Him.


2Jo 1:9
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

You assume alot. Hopefully you grow in grace and in the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Grace and peace.