Some thoughts on the Sabbath...

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to restore the image of the papacy throughout the world - by any means necessary.
Absolutely ! ^/^

They have attempted to identify secular powers in many of the time prophecies in the later chapters of Daniel and as well here
Babylon, Medo- Persia, Greece, Rome, ... then, Rome mixed with "miry clay" false religion ( the feet ) .. Roman style government, mixed with religion, ie, a political power, being a religion = Vatican. And NOW, The US of A .. adopting, the "image of the Beast... Trump declaring that there is no more separation of church and state. = the US taking on the "Image of the beast" = Simple to understand, but the apostate Protestants don't want to ( psychologically CAN'NOT) ... because of their denial of the Papacy being the AntiChrist is the bases of their false gospel, Vatican made religion = dispensationalism ... developed by Francisco Ribera and John Nelson Darby, ( very well being another Jesuit, or Jesuit inspired ) The "Father of Dispensationalism" = Futurism, being an unknown belief system = religion, very unlike Apostolic Christianity, with hundred, ( 44,000 +) different flavors, without the need for a "heart conversion" "born again" to the Righteousness of Christ... obeying the Father as Jesus did.. Gal 2:20

Excuse me ... I easily fall into a "rant" ...
I Gotta get back outside and back to working in the woods, doing productive WORK, that actually is of higher priority, serving a large number of people. ... Later Friend !! ( I'd much rather be here at the computer ranting, than physical labor ... I tend to laziness, and the Holy Spirit has a "mighty work" in me... Thank you Jesus !! Praise His Holy Name !!

Please refer to the videos that I've linked to .. they are so much more thorough than I and very much more pleasing to the eye !

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The covenant law of Moses.

that does not make any sense, a change of the Priest hood has no effect on the commandments or the Statutes only the duties of the priest.

In that regard, are you aware after Christ has returned the third Temple will be built and the sacrifices will began again?

God's Prophet Ezekiel was instructed to record all the details on how it will be built and function.
Starting in chapter 40.

the temple the Jews are trying to build is a copy of Solomon's , the third one will be huge.
this Temple Christ will rule from as KING of Kings
 
that does not make any sense, a change of the Priest hood has no effect on the commandments or the Statutes only the duties of the priest.
You think I don't make sense?

You said there was a change in the priesthood but you want a third temple.

So who performs the duties in the temple?

Priests of course.

Ezekiel 42:13
Then he said to me, “The north chambers and the south chambers, which are opposite the separate area, they are the holy chambers where the priests who are near to the Lord shall eat the most holy things.
 
that does not make any sense, a change of the Priest hood has no effect on the commandments or the Statutes only the duties of the priest.

In that regard, are you aware after Christ has returned the third Temple will be built and the sacrifices will began again?

God's Prophet Ezekiel was instructed to record all the details on how it will be built and function.
Starting in chapter 40.

the temple the Jews are trying to build is a copy of Solomon's , the third one will be huge.
this Temple Christ will rule from as KING of Kings
The third temple that you believe will be built is not very big, the measurements are in cubits.
 
Eh, we can know we are saved and therefore, believing Scripture, we are seated with Christ already as per Ephesians 2:6...
You live under the law, I will live by grace. I am already spiritually in heaven.
Rom 14:10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why also do you despise your brother? For all shall stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

2Co 5:10 For we all must appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive the things done through the body, according to what he did, whether good or bad.

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, ( by the Judgment process going on NOW) to give to each as his work is.

  • Colossians 3:1-4 (KJV): “If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.” (We are “risen with Christ” now by faith, but our visible glory is future.)
  • Philippians 3:20-21 (KJV): “For our conversation [citizenship] is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body…” (Our citizenship is heavenly, yet we still await the Savior to transform us.)
  • 1 John 3:2 (KJV): “Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.” (“Now” we are God’s children by faith; the full likeness is future.)
  • Hebrews 11:13, 16 (KJV): The faithful “died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off… they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly.” (Even the heroes of faith did not yet possess the literal heavenly inheritance.)
Indeed, these verses prove the Ephesians 2: 6- passages speaks of our spiritual union with the risen Christ, and not our current physical address, but you seem to be assuming that you already possess, the "legal standing " of Jesus and His Righteousness, as if you already know how you will be judged ... We are judged by God's Standard of Righteousness, His lawfulness, as Jesus showed us how to be. = Love ! To God & our neighbors. ALL 10, including the Sabbath

The Grace of God gives us the power to live a righteous life ( as did Christ ), IF we by Prayer and Faith, choose to. We are NOT made righteous against our will ... We are given a choice, to let Christ transform us, converting us, ( being born again) being obedient to God's Will, His Law OR NOT, ... to where the Investigative Judgment, going on NOW, where Jesus is in the Most Holy Place, NOW, going over the Book of Life, determine our Judgment, for when He returns. Our names, entered in the Book of Life , OR NOT ~> Psalm 69:28, Daniel 12:1, Philippians 4:3, Exodus 32:32-33, Revelation 3:5, 13:8, 17:8, 20:12, 20:15, 21:27, 22:19

You can't "know" you are already saved Magenta, or claim you are already spiritually in Heaven, Gideon.

Your statements are only true, if you can claim Gal 2:20, 100% obedience to God, The Father, therefore having the Righteousness of Christ 100%. You like all the rest of us, will have to pray and have FAITH, that we are found faithful & true, to God's Character of Love ... judged by the Word of God, Jesus.

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If you teach and practice that God's Law, His Love is not in effect over you and keep not his Seventh Day Sabbath, His Sign of authority... That is teaching and practicing SIN .. Rebellion to God !! Aligning with Satan and His anti-Christ, the RCC. Then you are a "false prophet" of Rev. 16:13, and need to "come out of Babylon of Rev 14, to be transformed by God's Grace, and the power of His Spirit, into the Righteousness of Christ, to be judged "fit for the heavenly courts above.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ~~ Blessed Sabbath Folks ~~ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 
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You can't "know" you are already saved Magenta
Let me qualify this incorrect statement, ( forgive me )

Yes—We Can Know That We Are Saved (Present Assurance Through Christ)

Believers can and should have the joyful assurance of present salvation while they abide in Christ by faith. This assurance is not a once-for-all declaration of final security that removes the need for daily surrender, but a living, daily confidence based on God’s promises and the transforming work of the Holy Spirit. True assurance comes only through complete heart-surrender and continual abiding in Jesus, the same path that breaks the cycle and prepares us for the Pre-Advent Judgment.

“The message from God to me for you is ‘Him that cometh unto me, I will in no wise cast out.’ [John 6:37.] If you have nothing else to plead before God but this one promise from your Lord and Saviour, you have the assurance that you will never, never be turned away. … Cling to that promise and you are safe. … Present this assurance to Jesus, and you are as safe as though inside the city of God.” ~~EGW
She encourages every struggling soul: Do not doubt God’s mercy. By living faith, lay hold of His promise, and you may know you are forgiven and accepted.

At the same time, she gives a strong warning against presumption. In Christ’s Object Lessons (p. 155) she writes:

“Those who accept the Saviour, however sincere their conversion, should never be taught to say or to feel that they are saved. This is misleading. Everyone should be taught to cherish hope and faith; but even when we give ourselves to Christ and know that He accepts us, we are not beyond the reach of temptation. … Never can we safely put confidence in self or feel, this side of heaven, that we are secure against temptation.”
This is not a denial of assurance—it is a safeguard against the “I am saved, so I can relax” attitude that leads back into the very sin cycle she describes elsewhere. Assurance is real and present, but it is conditional on daily abiding in Christ, not on a past decision or feeling.

White explains the true basis of assurance in Steps to Christ and other works: it rests on (1) justification through Christ’s atoning blood received by faith, (2) the renewing power of the Holy Spirit producing a new heart, and (3) the outward evidence of obedience and fruit-bearing. When these are present, we may rejoice and say, “I know whom I have believed” (2 Timothy 1:12).

How This Fits the Broader Picture​

This teaching harmonizes perfectly with the Pre-Advent Judgment and moral accountability. In the investigative judgment, the books are opened to reveal whether our faith was genuine—whether it produced a life of full surrender and commandment-keeping by grace. Yet even now, before the books close, Ellen White says we do not need to live in fearful uncertainty. We can have the calm, joyful assurance that we are “in Christ” today if we come to Him just as we are, claim His promises, and let Him keep us from falling.

She ties this directly to the Ephesians 2. we are “saved by grace through faith” now, raised to new life now, and seated with Christ in heavenly places by faith now—while still walking on earth as His workmanship, doing the good works He prepared.

Practical Counsel from Ellen White​

  • Come to Christ exactly as you are—no waiting to feel saved.
  • Cling to His promises (John 6:37; 1 John 1:9; Isaiah 1:18).
  • Examine the fruit: Is there hatred for sin? Is there daily surrender? Are you walking in obedience through His power?
  • Do not trust feelings or past experience alone—abide in Him moment by moment.
Ellen White’s consistent message is full of hope: Yes, you can know you are saved today—not because of your perfection, but because Christ is your perfect Saviour and you are resting in Him. ( The Sabbath )The same abiding faith that gives you assurance now is the faith that will stand in the judgment and break the sin cycle forever.

If you are struggling with doubt, her counsel is simple and biblical: “Look to the cross. Behold the Lamb of God… and you will have the assurance of salvation.” Start today—come to Jesus, claim His word, and let Him give you the peace of present salvation.

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We can have the Assurance of Salvation when we turn to God with repentance and confession and we ask for the covering of Christ's righteousness and we receive his righteousness in our lives today. We ask God for the grace to overcome those besetting sins that stick to us like glue on a difficult day.
  • Romans 7:7: The Apostle Paul states, "I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, 'You shall not covet'," which is the Tenth Commandment.
  • James 2:10-11: James references the commandments against adultery and murder, linking them as part of the same law.
  • Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5: These chapters contain the Ten Commandments, ( the 4th - the 7th Day Sabbath ) the specific law referred to in 1 John 3:4.
  • 1Jn 3:4 Every one who commits sin is guilty of lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.
Therefore prepare your minds, said the Apostle Peter, discipline yourselves, set all your hope on the grace that Jesus Christ will bring you when he is revealed. Like obedient children do not be conformed to the desires that you formerly had in ignorance. Indeed as he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in all your conduct, for it is written "you shall be holy for I am Holy."

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Rom 14:10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why also do you despise your brother? For all shall stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

2Co 5:10 For we all must appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive the things done through the body, according to what he did, whether good or bad.

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, ( by the Judgment process going on NOW) to give to each as his work is.

  • Colossians 3:1-4 (KJV): “If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.” (We are “risen with Christ” now by faith, but our visible glory is future.)
  • Philippians 3:20-21 (KJV): “For our conversation [citizenship] is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body…” (Our citizenship is heavenly, yet we still await the Savior to transform us.)
  • 1 John 3:2 (KJV): “Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.” (“Now” we are God’s children by faith; the full likeness is future.)
  • Hebrews 11:13, 16 (KJV): The faithful “died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off… they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly.” (Even the heroes of faith did not yet possess the literal heavenly inheritance.)
Indeed, these verses prove the Ephesians 2: 6- passages speaks of our spiritual union with the risen Christ, and not our current physical address, but you seem to be assuming that you already possess, the "legal standing " of Jesus and His Righteousness, as if you already know how you will be judged ... We are judged by God's Standard of Righteousness, His lawfulness, as Jesus showed us how to be. = Love ! To God & our neighbors. ALL 10, including the Sabbath

The Grace of God gives us the power to live a righteous life ( as did Christ ), IF we by Prayer and Faith, choose to. We are NOT made righteous against our will ... We are given a choice, to let Christ transform us, converting us, ( being born again) being obedient to God's Will, His Law OR NOT, ... to where the Investigative Judgment, going on NOW, where Jesus is in the Most Holy Place, NOW, going over the Book of Life, determine our Judgment, for when He returns. Our names, entered in the Book of Life , OR NOT ~> Psalm 69:28, Daniel 12:1, Philippians 4:3, Exodus 32:32-33, Revelation 3:5, 13:8, 17:8, 20:12, 20:15, 21:27, 22:19

You can't "know" you are already saved Magenta, or claim you are already spiritually in Heaven, Gideon.

Your statements are only true, if you can claim Gal 2:20, 100% obedience to God, The Father, therefore having the Righteousness of Christ 100%. You like all the rest of us, will have to pray and have FAITH, that we are found faithful & true, to God's Character of Love ... judged by the Word of God, Jesus.

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If you teach and practice that God's Law, His Love is not in effect over you and keep not his Seventh Day Sabbath, His Sign of authority... That is teaching and practicing SIN .. Rebellion to God !! Aligning with Satan and His anti-Christ, the RCC. Then you are a "false prophet" of Rev. 16:13, and need to "come out of Babylon of Rev 14, to be transformed by God's Grace, and the power of His Spirit, into the Righteousness of Christ, to be judged "fit for the heavenly courts above.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ~~ Blessed Sabbath Folks ~~ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I don't know who you are trying to convince. You are wearing out your keyboard for nothing with me. I reject SDA's twisted scriptural interpretations and SDA obsession with the false prophet EG White. You preach false doctrine and you are so full of pride that you are unteachable.
 
Rom 14:10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why also do you despise your brother? For all shall stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

2Co 5:10 For we all must appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive the things done through the body, according to what he did, whether good or bad.

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, ( by the Judgment process going on NOW) to give to each as his work is.

  • Colossians 3:1-4 (KJV): “If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.” (We are “risen with Christ” now by faith, but our visible glory is future.)
  • Philippians 3:20-21 (KJV): “For our conversation [citizenship] is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body…” (Our citizenship is heavenly, yet we still await the Savior to transform us.)
  • 1 John 3:2 (KJV): “Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.” (“Now” we are God’s children by faith; the full likeness is future.)
  • Hebrews 11:13, 16 (KJV): The faithful “died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off… they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly.” (Even the heroes of faith did not yet possess the literal heavenly inheritance.)
Indeed, these verses prove the Ephesians 2: 6- passages speaks of our spiritual union with the risen Christ, and not our current physical address, but you seem to be assuming that you already possess, the "legal standing " of Jesus and His Righteousness, as if you already know how you will be judged ... We are judged by God's Standard of Righteousness, His lawfulness, as Jesus showed us how to be. = Love ! To God & our neighbors. ALL 10, including the Sabbath

The Grace of God gives us the power to live a righteous life ( as did Christ ), IF we by Prayer and Faith, choose to. We are NOT made righteous against our will ... We are given a choice, to let Christ transform us, converting us, ( being born again) being obedient to God's Will, His Law OR NOT, ... to where the Investigative Judgment, going on NOW, where Jesus is in the Most Holy Place, NOW, going over the Book of Life, determine our Judgment, for when He returns. Our names, entered in the Book of Life , OR NOT ~> Psalm 69:28, Daniel 12:1, Philippians 4:3, Exodus 32:32-33, Revelation 3:5, 13:8, 17:8, 20:12, 20:15, 21:27, 22:19

You can't "know" you are already saved Magenta, or claim you are already spiritually in Heaven, Gideon.

Your statements are only true, if you can claim Gal 2:20, 100% obedience to God, The Father, therefore having the Righteousness of Christ 100%. You like all the rest of us, will have to pray and have FAITH, that we are found faithful & true, to God's Character of Love ... judged by the Word of God, Jesus.

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If you teach and practice that God's Law, His Love is not in effect over you and keep not his Seventh Day Sabbath, His Sign of authority... That is teaching and practicing SIN .. Rebellion to God !! Aligning with Satan and His anti-Christ, the RCC. Then you are a "false prophet" of Rev. 16:13, and need to "come out of Babylon of Rev 14, to be transformed by God's Grace, and the power of His Spirit, into the Righteousness of Christ, to be judged "fit for the heavenly courts above.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ~~ Blessed Sabbath Folks ~~ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Scripture says we can know. If you do not, well, what can I say?
It also says we are seated with Him. It seems you do not believe this.
 
Let me qualify this incorrect statement, ( forgive me )

Yes—We Can Know That We Are Saved (Present Assurance Through Christ)

Believers can and should have the joyful assurance of present salvation while they abide in Christ by faith. This assurance is not a once-for-all declaration of final security that removes the need for daily surrender, but a living, daily confidence based on God’s promises and the transforming work of the Holy Spirit. True assurance comes only through complete heart-surrender and continual abiding in Jesus, the same path that breaks the cycle and prepares us for the Pre-Advent Judgment.


She encourages every struggling soul: Do not doubt God’s mercy. By living faith, lay hold of His promise, and you may know you are forgiven and accepted.

At the same time, she gives a strong warning against presumption. In Christ’s Object Lessons (p. 155) she writes:


This is not a denial of assurance—it is a safeguard against the “I am saved, so I can relax” attitude that leads back into the very sin cycle she describes elsewhere. Assurance is real and present, but it is conditional on daily abiding in Christ, not on a past decision or feeling.

White explains the true basis of assurance in Steps to Christ and other works: it rests on (1) justification through Christ’s atoning blood received by faith, (2) the renewing power of the Holy Spirit producing a new heart, and (3) the outward evidence of obedience and fruit-bearing. When these are present, we may rejoice and say, “I know whom I have believed” (2 Timothy 1:12).

How This Fits the Broader Picture​

This teaching harmonizes perfectly with the Pre-Advent Judgment and moral accountability. In the investigative judgment, the books are opened to reveal whether our faith was genuine—whether it produced a life of full surrender and commandment-keeping by grace. Yet even now, before the books close, Ellen White says we do not need to live in fearful uncertainty. We can have the calm, joyful assurance that we are “in Christ” today if we come to Him just as we are, claim His promises, and let Him keep us from falling.

She ties this directly to the Ephesians 2. we are “saved by grace through faith” now, raised to new life now, and seated with Christ in heavenly places by faith now—while still walking on earth as His workmanship, doing the good works He prepared.

Practical Counsel from Ellen White​

  • Come to Christ exactly as you are—no waiting to feel saved.
  • Cling to His promises (John 6:37; 1 John 1:9; Isaiah 1:18).
  • Examine the fruit: Is there hatred for sin? Is there daily surrender? Are you walking in obedience through His power?
  • Do not trust feelings or past experience alone—abide in Him moment by moment.
Ellen White’s consistent message is full of hope: Yes, you can know you are saved today—not because of your perfection, but because Christ is your perfect Saviour and you are resting in Him. ( The Sabbath )The same abiding faith that gives you assurance now is the faith that will stand in the judgment and break the sin cycle forever.

If you are struggling with doubt, her counsel is simple and biblical: “Look to the cross. Behold the Lamb of God… and you will have the assurance of salvation.” Start today—come to Jesus, claim His word, and let Him give you the peace of present salvation.

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How nice. She also claimed that God has not forgotten the believer's sin, but that there is an investigation that Lord Jesus will conduct on each life. Of course, only those who slavishly obey SDA doctrine will be saved.
 
How nice. She also claimed that God has not forgotten the believer's sin, but that there is an investigation
that Lord Jesus will conduct on each life. Of course, only those who slavishly obey SDA doctrine will be saved.
My Bible says there is now no condemnation for those in Christ :) I'm sure yours says the same...
 
"But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law." Galatians 5:18
My Bible says there is now no condemnation for those in Christ :) I'm sure yours says the same...
Misuse of Galatians 5:18 and Romans 8:1 to Justify Disobedience to God’s Commandments
( Disclaimer... I use AI to get a more accurate / authoritative & quicker rebuttal to your simple misused statements.)

The two verses you quoted are frequently taken out of context to promote a dangerous error: the claim that a believer can continue deliberately breaking God’s Ten Commandments, yet still possess “the righteousness of Christ,” remain “not under the law,” enjoy “no condemnation,” and yet be fully saved and fit for heaven. This teaching is a form of antinomianism (lawlessness) that turns the grace of Christ into a license to sin. It directly contradicts the biblical call to full surrender, moral accountability, and the commandment-keeping life that breaks the sin-repentance-return cycle and prepares one for the Pre-Advent Judgment.

The Verses in Their True KJV Context​

Here are the verses exactly as they appear in the King James Version, with the immediate context that exposes the misuse:

  • Galatians 5:18 (KJV): “But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.”
    Paul’s point is not that the moral law (the Ten Commandments) has been abolished or that believers may now break it. The entire chapter contrasts the works of the flesh (which violate the law—see verses 19-21: adultery, idolatry, hatred, etc.) with the fruit of the Spirit (which fulfills the law—love, joy, peace, etc., verse 22-23). Paul had already said in verse 16: “This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.” Being “led by the Spirit” means the Holy Spirit empowers obedience so that the believer is no longer under the law’s condemnation or curse as a means of justification. The law itself remains the perfect standard of righteousness.
  • Romans 8:1 (KJV): “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”
    The crucial qualifying phrase (often omitted when the verse is misused) makes it clear: no condemnation belongs only to those who are walking after the Spirit, not after the flesh. The very next verses confirm this: “For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death… That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit” (Romans 8:2, 4, KJV). Grace does not set aside the law; it writes the law in the heart and empowers obedience.
Supporting Bible verses that destroy the “continue-in-sin” argument include:

  • Romans 6:1-2 (KJV): “What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid.”
  • Romans 6:14-15 (KJV): “For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.”
  • 1 John 3:4 (KJV): “Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.”
  • Revelation 22:14 (KJV): “Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life…”
These passages prove that genuine saving faith produces obedience, not lawlessness.

The Adventist Pioneers​

The early Adventist pioneers, especially E. J. Waggoner (in his 1891 Signs of the Times article “Under the Law”), directly refuted the misuse of Galatians 5:18. He wrote that antinomians “very rarely quote this verse” because the context shows the law is still actively in force. Those led by the Spirit are not under the law’s condemnation; those walking in the flesh are under it. Waggoner and A. T. Jones (with Ellen White’s full support in the 1888 Minneapolis message) taught that the moral law in Galatians is the Ten Commandments. Being “not under the law” means we are justified by faith alone, not that we are free to break the law. The pioneers insisted that true righteousness by faith always leads to commandment-keeping, never to continued transgression.

Ellen White’s Clear Teaching​

Ellen White repeatedly warned against twisting these very verses into an excuse for sin. In The Great Controversy and Selected Messages, she explains that “not under the law” and “no condemnation” refer to freedom from the law’s penalty when we are in Christ by faith—yet the law remains the standard of judgment and the transcript of God’s character. She writes:

“The law of God is the standard by which the characters and the lives of men will be tested in the judgment… Those who reject the light of truth will be left to their own ways, to be filled with the fruit of their own doings. But those who have repented of their transgression, and by faith have claimed the blood of Christ as their atoning sacrifice, are justified, and their sins are forgiven; but they are not at liberty to continue in sin.”
She directly addresses the error of claiming Christ’s righteousness while living in known sin:

“There are those who profess to believe in Christ, and claim that they are saved by His grace, but who refuse to keep His commandments. They say that they are ‘not under the law,’ but they are still breaking it. … The condition of eternal life is now just what it always has been—just what it was in Paradise before the fall of our first parents—perfect obedience to the law of God, perfect righteousness.”
White ties this misuse directly to the Pre-Advent Judgment and assurance of salvation: only those whose faith produces a life of obedience (by the indwelling Spirit) will have their sins blotted out. Claiming “no condemnation” while walking after the flesh is presumption, not faith. The same Christ who forgives also cleanses and empowers us to overcome besetting sins—the very point emphasized in the sermon transcript you shared earlier.

Conclusion​

Galatians 5:18 and Romans 8:1 do not give anyone permission to continue breaking God’s commandments while claiming the righteousness of Christ and fitness for heaven. When rightly understood in the KJV and in the light of the full counsel of Scripture, they teach the opposite: the Holy Spirit leads us into obedience so that the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us. The Adventist pioneers and Ellen White stand united with the Bible in declaring that true saving faith always produces commandment-keeping by grace.

This is the same message of full surrender and daily abiding in Christ that breaks the sin cycle and gives genuine assurance. As in my above post states “No sin today is worth exchanging for eternal life.” Come to Christ just as you are, claim His covering righteousness, and let the Spirit lead you into a life that honors every one of God’s commandments—until the day the books of the Pre-Advent Judgment close and you hear, “Well done, good and faithful servant.”

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ~~ Blessed Evening Folks ~~ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 
You really ought to stop bearing false witness.
That's the best you can do? So you are just going to ignore scriptural logic, the Word, a "Thus saith the Lord" ?
Please consider ALL that was just presented to you , I pray ! ... this is your eternal life at stake here ... Good Nite
 
That's the best you can do? So you are just going to ignore scriptural logic, the Word, a "Thus saith the Lord" ?
Please consider ALL that was just presented to you , I pray ! ... this is your eternal life at stake here ... Good Nite
Please stop bearing false witness, the fate of your soul is at stake.
 
I don't know who you are trying to convince. You are wearing out your keyboard for nothing with me. I reject SDA's twisted scriptural interpretations and SDA obsession with the false prophet EG White. You preach false doctrine and you are so full of pride that you are unteachable.

Gideon300

I am not SDA and would never have anything to do with a female preacher.

But; either Eternal life is a free GIFT or it is not!
If it is a gift only from the Father, which it is, then there is no possible way to earn it!
than means there is absolutely nothing one can do to earn it. ZERO

Therefore: obeying Christ can never earn even one --- that FREE GIFT.
I understand it is very hard to grasps the words of Christ, that also is a gift given to those selected before creation.
When Christ explains that obeying HIM is our duty for which there is no reward ---
to those not selected for the First Resurrection, that is a bridge too far.