Are People Really Sheep?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Well, good. Not dumping at all is better than only dumping on MAGA,
but we wish you would join us in resisting Satan in the guise of Marxists,
because history has shown that apathy begets immorality and slavery.

What does mass delusion beget?
 
I don't know who made the photo of Trump as Jesus, but Trump shared it on Truth Social back in May. He only took it down after much backlash.

The statue was the joint-effort of a cryptocurrency group and a pastor, and Trump has publicly defended it.


But he didn't make the images of himself. Nor did he ask anyone to worship them. They were made as a result of how others may see him, though they seem tongue in cheek to me.
 
Yes that is correct, along with ideas about exceptionalism, denial of what has happened historically and presently due to said exceptionalism etc., etc.,
You got me again. Can you explain what you mean by "exceptionalism"? I have never heard that term before.
 
  • Like
Reactions: HeIsHere
Believe me, I understand the voting process. My concern is for those who obsess over politicians as if they were God. If you walked in my shoes, then you would know what I am talking about. I have met many people just like this, and I genuinely fear for them.​

I think I understand somewhat. It's hard these days if your heart is for evangelism. I traveled in evangelistic ministry 20yrs. But politics and social issues were not as strong as they are now. It was just beginning when I stopped traveling. But even trying to reach out to lost loved ones has become harder as issues such as trans, homosexuality, abortion... are now more center stage. My nephew said a while back when we were discussing homosexuality that they were "not bad people". No one corrected him so I waited until everyone was done speaking. Then I said " it's not a matter of a homosexual being a bad person or a good person. The issue is they are lost and in bondage without Jesus. It's up to us to present the Gospel so they will be convicted and come to know Him personally." Satan is out to destroy, we know his tricks. We need to stand against him.
 
  • Like
Reactions: passion84god
They can do no wrong and are regarded as superior in all their undertakings one being ... "the most moral army."
Okay, thank you. Their history, as recorded in scripture, tells a completely different story, but these people have been so brainwashed that they refuse to see what is in their own Bibles. I think that it's time for me to post on another thread. This one is going nowhere fast. Thanks for your help.​
 
  • Like
Reactions: HeIsHere
is it problematic to you or others that I choose to live my life under the Lordship of Jesus Christ without focusing on earthly men or women in politics?

Yes, I believe it does matter. In Canada a man lost the right to see his own child because he did not agree with transgenderism. I believe he may have done some time in jail. I'm not American by birth so it worries me when I see people sitting back when we have communism on our doorstep. The devil has come right on our doorstep and we have to stand for what is right.
 
I see it, and that is why my focus is on the gospel of Jesus Christ, and not politics.

But when you share the Gospel, it will get political. And I will tell you why. Because the left have their own secular religion. And you're going out there for souls, you're going to knock up against political /social issues. It's just the world we are living in today.
 
Yes, I believe it does matter. In Canada a man lost the right to see his own child because he did not agree with transgenderism. I believe he may have done some time in jail. I'm not American by birth so it worries me when I see people sitting back when we have communism on our doorstep. The devil has come right on our doorstep and we have to stand for what is right.
But I am not sitting back. Why can't you understand that? Surely you must know that the real fight is in the realm of the spirit, and not in the realm of politics. I am constantly engaged in that battle. When it comes to others, that primarily has to do with the sharing of the gospel. Politics are not going to change anybody's heart. The new birth can and will. I personally knew someone who was possibly the biggest bleeding-heart liberal Democrat of all time. I shared the gospel with him over the course of a few years, and he finally became a Christian. When he was born again, he totally changed for the better. No political talks required whatsoever.​
 
@ThereRoseaLamb

I say this respectfully, so please read it in that manner. I saw that you left me a "sad" emoji on one of my posts. To me, this is what is truly sad. Multiple times, I have mentioned that my focus is on preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ and the souls of lost men, women, and children. Nobody seems to care about that. Instead, all I get are comments about Trump and politics. This tells me that the focus of some people here is way out of whack. Way, way, way out of whack. I hope that some people here pause to consider what I just said.​

No, I understand where you are coming from. I have cousins that I am trying to reach. They bring up the politics, not me. And I am trying to relay to them the Gospel but they are brainwashed by social media. I come up against it every single time.
 
But when you share the Gospel, it will get political. And I will tell you why. Because the left have their own secular religion. And you're going out there for souls, you're going to knock up against political /social issues. It's just the world we are living in today.
You seem nice. You really do, but you are scaring me quite a bit because you speak of the Right as if they are sinless. I know many, many Republicans, and many of them claim to be Christians, who are horribly sinful people. This isn't merely a left/right issue. Instead, it is a truly regenerate or a truly unregenerate issue.​
 
I am still waiting for somebody to honestly answer the question that I asked in post #140.
 
Okay, thank you. Their history, as recorded in scripture, tells a completely different story, but these people have been so brainwashed that they refuse to see what is in their own Bibles. I think that it's time for me to post on another thread. This one is going nowhere fast. Thanks for your help.​

That would be correct about that mindset.
 
  • Like
Reactions: passion84god
But I am not sitting back. Why can't you understand that?​
No, I didn't mean you. Most churches don't evangelize, let alone individuals.


Surely you must know that the real fight is in the realm of the spirit, and not in the realm of politics.​

It is, but so many young people today see themselves as activists. The culture has changed.

I am constantly engaged in that battle. When it comes to others, that primarily has to do with the sharing of the gospel. Politics are not going to change anybody's heart. The new birth can and will.​

True. We know that, but social issues have become political issues.

I personally knew someone who was possibly the biggest bleeding-heart liberal Democrat of all time. I shared the gospel with him over the course of a few years, and he finally became a Christian. When he was born again, he totally changed for the better. No political talks required whatsoever.​
Excellent! When people see it for themselves and make the change. The more that happens the better. But not every person will be reached the same way. I'm certainly all in on evangelism.
 
  • Like
Reactions: passion84god
You seem nice. You really do, but you are scaring me quite a bit because you speak of the Right as if they are sinless.​

No, only one person was sinless and we know what happened to him. It's not that they are sinless, but their platform is the closest to Biblical beliefs.



I know many, many Republicans, and many of them claim to be Christians, who are horribly sinful people.​

Yep, and I am all the more forceful when I discuss with these people. To whom much is given, much is required.




This isn't merely a left/right issue. Instead, it is a truly regenerate or a truly unregenerate issue.​

No, I don't think that is the case. I'm talking about the platforms, what conservatives agree we stand for.
 


Let's pick a group of people who are generally accepted as being evil. Let's say Hamas. Here is my question for those here who claim to be Christians:

Would you rather see them wiped off of the face of the earth through bombings and the like, or would you rather go and preach the gospel to them that they might be saved?

I have said before, maybe you haven't seen it, Muslims have been having dreams of Jesus, they are getting saved and baptized. The Bible says God wishes that none will go to hell. That's what evangelism is about. But God also says that at some point he will give people over to a reprobate mind. So those that commit crimes must still be held accountable. But that doesn't mean if they are sincere they can't go to heaven when their life is done.
 
I am slowly learning what some people here believe. It sounds like you are referring to Christian Zionism. If so, then I am very aware of how prevalent that belief is among Trump supporters.​

I'd appreciate if you'd like to know what I believe you'd ask me, not take anothers word for it. Thank you.
 
  • Like
Reactions: passion84god