Thats correct it confirms limited atonement and shows universalism to be false
Reconciled to God while enemies !
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You still don't seem to understand the problem with your view. The problem with your view is the fact that, although one could argue that everyone is an enemy of God before conversion, it is NOT true that Christ died while we were his enemies because we weren't alive then. Therefore, in order to reconcile with God a person needs to repent and accept Jesus as both Lord and savior.
The only way that Romans 5:10 is true for you and me is if we actually, in fact, reconcile with God.
Here we go.
What degree of repentance would satisfy a cranky God?
The problem will reduce to a definition of what the term "free gift" means.
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Either you repented and converted or you didn't. If not, then you didn't reconcile with God.
It does matter. We don't understand a bible passage until we understand it in context. Peter is NOT saying that the death of Christ brings us to God. He is saying two things: since we are his disciples we should expect suffering for our believes just as he suffered for his. Also, we take comfort and solace from the fact that for him, death was not the end. He rose again. And just as he rose again, we also will rise again.
That's his point.
Freewill is real. I don't need to elevate it; I just acknowledge it.
Ever notice that the Bible never uses the term "Atonement" with respect to the cross of Christ. Think about that for a minute. The cross of Christ is about reconciliation and propitiation, never atonement.
While it is true that the reconciled aren't condemned, it is not true that they are reconciled before they repent and convert. And Reconciliation isn't a legal act.
Pardon is not a legal act. If eternal life was a legal matter, then none of us would get eternal life. But eternal life is not a legal matter, it is an act of grace.
Aint none, its your imagination
No but we were born as enemies and reconciled, Christ still died for my sins before I was born. One doesnt have to be born in order for Jesus Christ to have died for their sins.
No, he doesn't do both. We either repent and become his disciple or we don't. Christ doesn't do it for us.
No, I'm suggesting your definition of reconciliation is nonsensical.
One is saved by His life not by repentance. Read Rom 5:10 how are the reconciled by His death saved ?
Be that as it may, Paul is speaking historically when he says "while we were his enemies." Jesus died for our sins, but not when we were his enemies. We weren't even born then.
The point is, we are not reconciled with God until we personally make peace with God in real life. Do you understand real life?
It doesnt, within the context of the letter he wrote Christ brings us to God.
Thats exactly what he wrote
He did, you in denial
You are saying Christ death did a insufficient job in reconciliation of both parties. Thats not a good witness for Christ and His Gospel
This is where you flatten the gospel. Jesus says that HE is the one who will decide who will be saved. He also says that his sheep hear his voice and follow him and HE will give them eternal life.
A person isn't a sheep just because he says so. A person needs to be a sheep in reality: a genuine sheep, not a pretend sheep. And those who are the sheep of Jesus will do what Jesus commanded: they will repent, forgive others, seek first the kingdom, love our neighbor, love our brother, love God, be honest, contrite, and thankful. We aren't a sheep of Christ unless we love the truth. We aren't a sheep of Christ unless we love our brother, even while our brother is being persecuted by the world.
We are saved by his life because Jesus will be alive to call us from the grave with a shout.
Definition of Imperative
Corresponds to the English imperative, and expresses a command to the hearer to perform a certain action by the order and authority of the one commanding. Thus, Jesus' phrase, "Repent ye, and believe the gospel" (Mk.1:15) is not at all an "invitation," but an absolute command requiring full obedience on the part of all hearers.
God already reconciled Himself to mankind (2 Cor 5:18; 2 Cor 5:19) ... if the hearer rejects the command in 2 Cor 5:20, he or she is not reconciled.
2 Corinthians 5:18-20
18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
In the Greek, the words "be ye reconciled" are aorist imperative:
The imperative mood is the mood of command; i.e., it is requiring something of someone or someones that is volitionally possible from those of whom the action is being required. With the present imperative, the action conveyed is keep on doing whatever one is doing, and with the aorist imperative, the action is start doing something.
In 2 Cor 5:18-19, God has already reconciled Himself to mankind.
In 2 Cor 5:20, the hearer is to stop rejecting. The hearer is to "be ye reconciled" ... ("with the aorist imperative, the action is start doing something").
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I said SHOW. All you did was quote two statements. You didn't SHOW how they were contradictory. I say they are NOT contradictory.
Our sins were dealt with b4 we were born, so we were born reconciled enemies, if He died for your sins
Then you deny Rom 5:10, Christ made peace with God by His Blood for them He died for Col 1:20
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Again according to Rom 5:10 how shall the reconciled be saved ?
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.