She has been schooled many, many times, maybe more than 7 years or so on here.. just so you know because time is precious and it can never be regained.
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She has been schooled many, many times, maybe more than 7 years or so on here.. just so you know because time is precious and it can never be regained.
Oh wait let's see.... Italians are from Italy, Spanish are from Spain and Palestinians are from Palestine.
Now I wonder is your statement a political one or a legal observation....hmmm.
It's more than one Scripture. I'm talking about the Abrahamic covenant. How did God bring that about? Explain how it happened.
Yes they have, you just ignored scripture, here is something else
The Maximum Extent1 Kings 4:21 Solomon's geopolitical borders match the exact coordinates given to Abraham.
And Solomon reigned over all kingdoms from the river unto the land of the Philistines, and unto the border of Egypt: they brought presents, and served Solomon all the days of his life.
Benson writes:
On Neh 9:8
Now you calling Gods word a lie !
You scared to show any scripture, you know I will refute it. I have shown you plenty of scripture that Praises God for the fulfillment of the Land Promise made to the Fathers, and you flat out deny it, saying that God has not fulfilled the Land Promise.
It is not really about scripture, if you understand C. I. Scofield and his tactics...just sayin.
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passion84god
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You seem like a nice lady, and I mean you no disrespect, but you are totally wrong in what you stated in all four of the above quotes.
The land promises in the Bible were given to Abram or Abraham and his seed. Like so many others, you apparently misinterpret "seed" to mean "natural descendants." In reality, the Bible tells us that Abraham's seed is Jesus Christ and those who are truly in Christ, whether they be Jews or Gentiles. That is conditional. In fact, hundreds of thousands of Israelites were a part of the exodus from Egypt, and only two of them ever stepped foot into the promised land. If God's promise was unconditional as you claim, then God is a liar who cannot be trusted. Hundreds of thousands of Israelites were overthrown by God in the wilderness because of their repeated temptations. In 1st Corinthians chapter 10, the Apostle Paul told us that Christ was the one they were tempting in the wilderness. Seeing how the land was truly promised to Christ and those who are in him, and seeing how the vast majority of Israelites repeatedly rejected Christ, they were not allowed into the promised land. The two who followed Christ, who is Abraham's seed, namely Joshua and Caleb, did inherit the promised land because they also truly were Abraham's seed through faith in Christ. It is that simple, and if somebody down the line had not conditioned you to believe otherwise, then you would plainly see that this is what the Bible truly teaches.
Let's also listen to what Moses told the Israelites, as God's mouthpiece, when God called them unto himself:
The land promises in the Bible were given to Abram or Abraham and his seed. Like so many others, you apparently misinterpret "seed" to mean "natural descendants." In reality, the Bible tells us that Abraham's seed is Jesus Christ and those who are truly in Christ, whether they be Jews or Gentiles. That is conditional. In fact, hundreds of thousands of Israelites were a part of the exodus from Egypt, and only two of them ever stepped foot into the promised land. If God's promise was unconditional as you claim, then God is a liar who cannot be trusted. Hundreds of thousands of Israelites were overthrown by God in the wilderness because of their repeated temptations. In 1st Corinthians chapter 10, the Apostle Paul told us that Christ was the one they were tempting in the wilderness. Seeing how the land was truly promised to Christ and those who are in him, and seeing how the vast majority of Israelites repeatedly rejected Christ, they were not allowed into the promised land. The two who followed Christ, who is Abraham's seed, namely Joshua and Caleb, did inherit the promised land because they also truly were Abraham's seed through faith in Christ. It is that simple, and if somebody down the line had not conditioned you to believe otherwise, then you would plainly see that this is what the Bible truly teaches.
Let's also listen to what Moses told the Israelites, as God's mouthpiece, when God called them unto himself:
Exodus 19:3-6
3 And Moses went up unto God, and the Lord called unto him out of the mountain, saying, Thus shalt thou say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel;4 Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself.
5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
Did you notice the "if" and the "then"? That is conditional, and not unconditional. If you have any familiarity with the scriptures whatsoever, then you know that, apart from small remnants of believers at times, Israel repeatedly sinned against God while violating his conditional covenant. As a direct result, they were repeatedly chastened by God with such things as plagues, pestilences, famines, invasions, and even captivities in foreign lands. Some of their sins include the killing of their own prophets, having a hand, along with certain Gentiles, in the crucifixion of their own Messiah, the persecution of the Apostles from city to city, and they are presently desiring and planning on building a third temple in which temple sacrifices, which deny Christ's atonement, will once again be offered. And you expect any rational human being to offer support to such a nation? They are wicked, with few exceptions. Like everybody else, they need the gospel preached to them, and they need to repent of their sins while placing saving faith in Jesus Christ.
Please stop drinking the "Christian Zionism" Kool-Aid. Its main ingredient is the spirit of antichrist.
Did you notice the "if" and the "then"? That is conditional, and not unconditional. If you have any familiarity with the scriptures whatsoever, then you know that, apart from small remnants of believers at times, Israel repeatedly sinned against God while violating his conditional covenant. As a direct result, they were repeatedly chastened by God with such things as plagues, pestilences, famines, invasions, and even captivities in foreign lands. Some of their sins include the killing of their own prophets, having a hand, along with certain Gentiles, in the crucifixion of their own Messiah, the persecution of the Apostles from city to city, and they are presently desiring and planning on building a third temple in which temple sacrifices, which deny Christ's atonement, will once again be offered. And you expect any rational human being to offer support to such a nation? They are wicked, with few exceptions. Like everybody else, they need the gospel preached to them, and they need to repent of their sins while placing saving faith in Jesus Christ.
Please stop drinking the "Christian Zionism" Kool-Aid. Its main ingredient is the spirit of antichrist.
Amen amen amen.
Wake up , so called Christians, if you have any God-fearing in you, please please please humble yourself.
Jesus said it over and over again, there is no other way, He is the way.
Only Jesus, no other way.
No thats a lame excuse to reject the truth, because you been deceived. May God open your eyes b4 His return !
It's sad, Scofield can't save anyone. And it's sad that men follow men and don't seek after God. 'Let no man decieve you' comes to mind.
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passion84god
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1 Thessalonians 2:14-16
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
Stop supporting and defending enemies of the gospel, and start preaching the gospel to them instead that they might be saved.
There was a time back in the 70s I bought a Scofield bible, but the Lord never let me get comfortable with his notes, and dispensations, by the early eighties I started looking amil teachings, and lining up the scriptures, and I stayed in that camp
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. Revelation 18:4-5
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passion84god
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Did he bless or curse them when he overthrew almost the entire first generation of Israelites in the wilderness who made the exodus out of Egypt?
Did he bless or curse them when he sent plagues, pestilences, famines, droughts, and invading armies repeatedly throughout their history while also causing them to become captives in foreign lands at times?
Did he bless or curse them when he had their temple burnt to the ground in 70 A.D.?
You do realize that God foretold of both blessings and cursings upon their nation based upon their obedience or disobedience to his conditional covenant, don't you?
Will he bless or curse them when their third temple is rebuilt with accompanying sacrifices that will deny the atonement of Christ?
Did he bless or curse them when he sent plagues, pestilences, famines, droughts, and invading armies repeatedly throughout their history while also causing them to become captives in foreign lands at times?
Did he bless or curse them when he had their temple burnt to the ground in 70 A.D.?
You do realize that God foretold of both blessings and cursings upon their nation based upon their obedience or disobedience to his conditional covenant, don't you?
Will he bless or curse them when their third temple is rebuilt with accompanying sacrifices that will deny the atonement of Christ?
Brightfame, I was raised on the Scofield, but it was into my 30s and 40s that I realized my arguments about prophecy were too often based on the Footnotes rather than on the scriptures. Oddly, I had my eyes opened to the gospel of Calvinism quicker than I was able to see the critical errors of dispensational eschatology. I can thank Loraine Boettner's The Reformed Doctrine of Predestination for rescuing me from modern revivalism and free will thought.
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Thaddeus
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This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Just as I had determined to bring disaster on you and showed no pity when your ancestors angered me,” says the Lord Almighty, 15“so now I have determined to do good again to Jerusalem and Judah. Do not be afraid. 16These are the things you are to do: Speak the truth to each other, and render true and sound judgment in your courts; 17do not plot evil against each other, and do not love to swear falsely. I hate all this,” declares the Lord.
18The word of the Lord Almighty came to me.
19;This is what the Lord Almighty says: “The fasts of the fourth, fifth, seventh and tenth months will become joyful and glad occasions and happy festivals for Judah. Therefore love truth and peace.”
20This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Many peoples and the inhabitants of many cities will yet come, 21;and the inhabitants of one city will go to another and say, ‘Let us go at once to entreat the Lord and seek the Lord Almighty. I myself am going.’ 22And many peoples and powerful nations will come to Jerusalem to seek the Lord Almighty and to entreat him.”
23;This is what the Lord Almighty says: “In those days ten people from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, ‘Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.’” Zech8:14-23
18The word of the Lord Almighty came to me.
19;This is what the Lord Almighty says: “The fasts of the fourth, fifth, seventh and tenth months will become joyful and glad occasions and happy festivals for Judah. Therefore love truth and peace.”
20This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Many peoples and the inhabitants of many cities will yet come, 21;and the inhabitants of one city will go to another and say, ‘Let us go at once to entreat the Lord and seek the Lord Almighty. I myself am going.’ 22And many peoples and powerful nations will come to Jerusalem to seek the Lord Almighty and to entreat him.”
23;This is what the Lord Almighty says: “In those days ten people from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, ‘Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.’” Zech8:14-23
Very good. This is Jesus 2nd coming, the remnant of ethnic jews will finally repent and mourn for the one they pierced, they will mourn big time for their families that passed, who rejected Jesus.