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Abrahams was heavenly he looked for Heb 11:15-16

15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.

16 ;But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

Its the heavenly Kingdom 2 Tim 4:18

And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Abraham will be there Matt 8:11

And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
I'm not sure what your point is here
 
It's main issue is that it's a doctrine of demons that causes godly fruit to wither on the vine, so to speak. A double-minded person is unstable in all of their ways, and dispensationalism is a schizo doctrine with baked-in unbelief.
Well then you don't understand dispensationalism as I said it has its problems but your summary of it means you don't understand it

Not to mention your pseudo biblical reference is out of context with the subject at hand
 
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No, posts like these are getting really old. I'm not calling God a liar, I'm saying you are misunderstanding the Scriptures
Like I said, you may not intentionally call God a lie, but you are in your deception, cause you dont receive the clear testimony of scripture. Please check this out:
 
It's main issue is that it's a doctrine of demons that causes godly fruit to wither on the vine, so to speak. A double-minded person is unstable in all of their ways, and dispensationalism is a schizo doctrine with baked-in unbelief.
Well tragically it is probably one of the best theologies we have on the planet and the years spent developing it I'm pretty sure is far beyond where you're at and your studies so even though I myself am not a dispensationalist I would tend to completely disagree

Most dispensationalists know the Bible Bible better than even degreed ministers

But you know I guess just for giggles what is wrong specifically in detail what is wrong with dispensationalism from your perspective
 
But you know I guess just for giggles what is wrong specifically in detail what is wrong with dispensationalism from your perspective

Two covenants, two nations, two peoples, two gospels, denies Christ is the heir of all the promises (not Israel after the flesh), denies that all prophecy pertaining to the restoration of Israel is fulfilled in Christ and his body, denies the land was unconditionally promised to Christ (not to Israel), carnalizes the spiritual and spiritualizes the carnal, ignores historical fulfillments to favor future fulfillments, etc.

I could probably go on and on. Care to dispute any of these?
 
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Okay, so its over your head, just keep reading it, many times I need to read things a few times before I get the point
I've read it and read it before you posted it if you're trying to say something to me just say it I can't tell if you're posting that to agree with me or in some form or fashion trying to argue with me
 
Two covenants, two nations, two peoples, two gospels, denies Christ is the heir of all the promises (not Israel after the
flesh), denies that all prophecy pertaining to the restoration of Israel is fulfilled in Christ and his body, denies the land was unconditionally promised to Christ (not to Israel), carnalizes the spiritual and spiritualizes the carnal, ignores historical fulfillments to favor future fulfillments, etc.

I could probably go on and on. Care to dispute any of these?
You have said absolutely nothing. But i will address what I can .

there are actually two covenants the Old Testament and New Testament are both representative of the Old and New Covenant. This would be the Mosaic Covenant versus The Covenant of Grace

Within the Old Testament there are actually two key covenants as well the abrahamic Covenant and the Mosaic Covenant which are completely separate Covenants. One is based on faith and the other based on works

As for the other ones that you mentioned show me a specific example of these other ones from the dispensational teaching itself you can't just throw out generalities that could be taken in any direction
 
You have said absolutely nothing. But i will address what I can .

there are actually two covenants the Old Testament and New Testament are both representative of the Old and New Covenant. This would be the Mosaic Covenant versus The Covenant of Grace

Within the Old Testament there are actually two key covenants as well the abrahamic Covenant and the Mosaic Covenant which are completely separate Covenants. One is based on faith and the other based on works

As for the other ones that you mentioned show me a specific example of these other ones from the dispensational teaching itself you can't just throw out generalities that could be taken in any direction.
You have said absolutely nothing. But i will address what I can .

Now if you are somehow arguing about the seven classic dispensations they are actually in the Bible no one disputes the old New Testament division no one disputes the Mosaic law no one disputes they promise to Abraham no one disputes that Adam and Eve were innocent in the beginning etc etc

while dispensationalism will key in on usually seven areas these seven areas are plainly defined so at its core there's nothing more than observing the text of the Bible and putting a lens on it for potential clarification
 
Like I said, you may not intentionally call God a lie, but you are in your deception, cause you dont receive the clear testimony of scripture. Please check this out:

I don't need to watch it. I've studied the Word, I have studied history. I know what it says.
 

Romans 2:28-29​

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
 
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I don't need to watch it. I've studied the Word, I have studied history. I know what it says.
Its only 10 minutes. Watching it doesnt mean you have not studied history b4 or the word before, I studied history b4 and the word it didn't bother me at tal. BTW Others in this discussion/debate are encouraged to watch it also,, for it pertains to the debate /discussion
 

Romans 2:28-29​

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Whoever has been given a circumcised heart, which is regeneration, is a Jew, whose praise is of God !
 
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