Calvinism is Gospel !
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Yes He did Choose the Elect to be saved, Holy and without blame. That is Justification! Eph 1:4
Im not sure of the mechanics, that is a different study. What you need to understand is that Tulip/Calvinism is the Gospel, and at this juncture you scoff at it
Yes.
He chose us to be save, to be holy and without blame ----- IN CHRIST!
To be members of the bride of Christ!
And?
He did not choose other believers in history to become the Bride of Christ.
To do make sure we became the Bride of Christ?
He predestined us to be born and alive during the Church age.
So, when we believed?
We would become His Church.
Chosen and predestined!
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Stop being a programmed robot, please.
Repeating what some preacher tells you.
You do not yet know how to think with the Word of God.
You can someday.
But you first need to find good teachers who know how to interpret the Scriptures.
It is a glaring contradiction to your claim about the non-elect.
You have Christ and His Bride sitting on out throne ruling over His subjects in the Lake of Fire!
.... you were asked.If every saved person is His Bride?
Then, whom is He and His Bride to reign over?
Please be honest...........
He chose them in Christ before the foundation of the world, for the purpose of making them holy and without blame. Those are Salvation blessings, His work made the elect holy and without blame. They were in Christ b4 the world began. So all others, the non elect, He made them to damn them for their sins
No its not. You dont know anything about these spiritual matters, you busy opposing the Gospel
do you have amnesia
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Why do you believe in a doctrine that started in the 16th century, which is an offshoot of Protestantism? That alone is a RED flag!
The gospel is Jesus blood covenant. If we accept Jesus as Lord and savior, we enter into the covenant with Jesus, then we receive eternal life.
Either by pre destination or by free will, God reveal to people stage by stage.
Either by pre destination or by free will, God reveal to people stage by stage.
The Gospel proclaims the death of Christ as a death that effectively redeems some men, rather than as a death that merely makes salvation possible for all men. Scripture teaches limited atonement. Jesus Himself taught this about His own death in John 10:15: "... and I lay down my life for the sheep." A little further in the same chapter, the Lord specifically states that some men are not included among "the sheep": "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you" (v. 26). He died for some men, "the sheep," in distinction from other men, who are not of His sheep. Jesus described His death similarly in Matthew 20:28: "Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for [Greek: 'in the stead of'] many." The important point is not so much that He spoke of those for whom He died as "many," not as "all," as it is that he spoke of His death as the ransom given in the stead of others. By dying, He paid the ransom-price to God on behalf of many sinners. He did this by taking their place, giving up his own life where theirs was forfeit. The effect of this death is that everyone for whom He died is freed from sin, death and hell. Not one for whom He died will perish. None may perish, for the ransom is paid. This Gospel (and there is no other) was preached already by the evangelistic prophet, Isaiah, in Isaiah 53: the suffering Christ bears away the iniquities of God's people by being smitten of God as their substitute.
The Gospel proclaims an irresistible grace, as the power that saves elect sinners. It cannot be otherwise, if the sinner is "dead in trespasses and sins." Having taught this in Ephesians 2:1, the apostle goes on to teach irresistible grace in verses 4-5: "But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)." The saving of the sinner, in every case, is God's raising him from the dead, comparable to Jesus' wonders of raising the physically dead. Now two things are true about resurrection: it is the act of God alone, in which the one who is raised does not cooperate; and it is effectual—God never fails to accomplish the resurrection of any whom He purposes to raise. In verse 10 of this chapter, Paul likens the work by which we were saved to the work of creation, thus making dear that this work is exclusively the work of God the Creator, and not at all the work of the creature that is created: "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works ..." Jesus explained that salvation takes place by the sovereign drawing-power of Almighty God, in John 6:44: "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him."
The Gospel proclaims the perseverance of the saints. Jesus said, "My sheep hear my voice and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one" (John 10:27-30). Jesus gives eternal life to every one of His sheep; and not one of those saints shall ever perish. It is impossible that anyone could pluck a saint out of God's hand, that is, cause a regenerated child to fall away to perdition. The reason is not the strength of the saints, but the power of the grace of God ("my Father ... is greater than all"). These words of Jesus make plain that the comforting truth of perseverance depends upon election and irresistible grace. The saints persevere, because the Father gave them to Jesus and because Jesus gives (not: tries to give, but: gives) them eternal life.4
The Gospel proclaims an irresistible grace, as the power that saves elect sinners. It cannot be otherwise, if the sinner is "dead in trespasses and sins." Having taught this in Ephesians 2:1, the apostle goes on to teach irresistible grace in verses 4-5: "But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)." The saving of the sinner, in every case, is God's raising him from the dead, comparable to Jesus' wonders of raising the physically dead. Now two things are true about resurrection: it is the act of God alone, in which the one who is raised does not cooperate; and it is effectual—God never fails to accomplish the resurrection of any whom He purposes to raise. In verse 10 of this chapter, Paul likens the work by which we were saved to the work of creation, thus making dear that this work is exclusively the work of God the Creator, and not at all the work of the creature that is created: "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works ..." Jesus explained that salvation takes place by the sovereign drawing-power of Almighty God, in John 6:44: "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him."
The Gospel proclaims the perseverance of the saints. Jesus said, "My sheep hear my voice and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one" (John 10:27-30). Jesus gives eternal life to every one of His sheep; and not one of those saints shall ever perish. It is impossible that anyone could pluck a saint out of God's hand, that is, cause a regenerated child to fall away to perdition. The reason is not the strength of the saints, but the power of the grace of God ("my Father ... is greater than all"). These words of Jesus make plain that the comforting truth of perseverance depends upon election and irresistible grace. The saints persevere, because the Father gave them to Jesus and because Jesus gives (not: tries to give, but: gives) them eternal life.4
If we do not have a choice, then that god is not a loving god.
The God I serve gives me freedom to choose. And when I give Him access to my heart He recreates His image in me.
My God does not force some to be saved and others to be lost.
The God I serve gives me freedom to choose. And when I give Him access to my heart He recreates His image in me.
My God does not force some to be saved and others to be lost.
Calvinism is not the gospel that Jesus preached.
Jesus never taught that only a preselected group could come to Him while the rest were created with no opportunity to be saved. He preached a message that calls all people to repentance, faith, obedience, and perseverance.
Jesus said: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life." (John 3:16, ASV)
He did not say that God loved only a limited number. He said God loved the world, and "whosoever" believes may have life. Jesus invited everyone: "Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. "(Matthew 11:28, ASV)
"All" means all. An invitation that is given only to a secret group is not really an invitation.
Jesus also mourned over those who refused Him: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, that killeth the prophets, and stoneth them that are sent unto her! how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! "(Matthew 23:37, ASV) Jesus desired to gather them, but they were unwilling. Their refusal was real. This does not fit the idea that God had already determined that they could not come.
Jesus repeatedly placed responsibility upon people:
If ye love me, ye will keep my commandments. (John 14:15, ASV)
If a man keep my word, he shall never see death. (John 8:51, ASV)
He that endureth to the end, the same shall be saved. (Matthew 24:13, ASV)
These words make little sense if salvation cannot be rejected and if perseverance is guaranteed regardless of a person's response.
Jesus even warned His own disciples: "Abide in me, and I in you.... If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered." (John 15:4, 6, ASV)
Branches that were in Him could fail to remain. Therefore, abiding is something believers are commanded to do, not something that happens automatically.
Jesus also taught that men will be judged according to whether they obeyed His words: "He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my sayings, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I spake, the same shall judge him in the last day." (John 12:48, ASV)
The gospel of Jesus is simple. God loves the world. Christ died for the world. Everyone is called to repent and believe. Those who believe must remain faithful, keep His words, and endure to the end.
The message of Jesus is not, "You are saved because you were chosen and cannot fall away."
His message is:
Repent ye, and believe in the gospel. (Mark 1:15, ASV)
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love. (John 15:10, ASV)
Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee the crown of life. (Revelation 2:10, ASV)
That is the gospel preached by Jesus. It is a call to all people, and it requires a response of faithfulness and perseverance. Calvinism, with its doctrines of unconditional election, limited atonement, and irresistible grace, is a theological system developed centuries later. The gospel itself is found in the words of Christ.
It sure is, you best believe it. He taught mans inability to come to Him Jn 6:44,65
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