How do we distinguish false Christ & false Prophets according to Our Lord?

[Dino246]

Chapter and verse, please. Where does Satan acknowledge that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh?

The truth is already written and can be read in the Scriptures, yet it is still not understood.

So, no answer. You make claims and cannot support them. That’s because you twist the word of God to suit your agenda.

”Revelation 4:2 does not say that God is seated on the one throne in heaven, so your question and test are nonsense.”

Revelation 4:2 is not simply a narrative to be recounted or information to be learned.

More Scripture twisting. Rev. 4:2 is indeed simple narrative. You don’t understand written English well enough to argue about it. Instead you throw insults. That’s because you are both a stubborn fool and an unpleasant person in general.

 

[Dino246]

By saying that, you are also implying that the Lord Jesus was lying when He declared that no one understands

Your insults are moronic and your rationale is laughable.

 

[Mem]

So, no answer. You make claims and cannot support them. That’s because you twist the word of God to suit your agenda.


More Scripture twisting. Rev. 4:2 is indeed simple narrative. You don’t understand written English well enough to argue about it. Instead you throw insults. That’s because you are both a stubborn fool and an unpleasant person in general.

He's saying everything but that the Son is the Father, but I don't know why he insists on being so cryptic about it.

 

[Godsgood]

Sorry, what question in Revelation 4:2? That verse says:

(Rev 4:2) Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne set in heaven, and One sat on the throne.

There is no question in that verse.

As for "passing the test given by the Lord Jesus in 1 John 4:2–3," I repeat, in those verses, John tells his Christian readers how to discern between false teachers and true. It was a test they were to apply to what they heard from the teachers, not a test question they were to ask the teachers.

Even taking your idea, that the test is (in your opinion) one that each Christian must pass or fail, I do fully believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. Again, I will not answer for Dino246.

Although the whole Bible, including John's letters, is the word of God, it was John who, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, wrote the instructions to his Christian readers about those who claimed to teach God's truth:

(1Jn 4:1) Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
(1Jn 4:2) By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
(1Jn 4:3) and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world

For God desires both knowledge and wisdom. It is not enough merely to know that there is one throne in heaven, for that is only knowledge. You must identify the One who is seated on the throne so that your knowledge may become wisdom.

You can identify the One seated on the one throne in heaven (Revelation 4:2), if what you say comes from God and not from any person or from yourself.
Once you identify Him, you will also recognize the Jesus who came in the flesh (1 John 4:2–3).
And through that, you will also know whether the name you are using here comes from God or is merely from yourself.

The name you're using is actually very beautiful, very biblical. But it would be a shame if it didn't come from God.

 

[Godsgood]

So, no answer. You make claims and cannot support them. That’s because you twist the word of God to suit your agenda.


More Scripture twisting. Rev. 4:2 is indeed simple narrative. You don’t understand written English well enough to argue about it. Instead you throw insults. That’s because you are both a stubborn fool and an unpleasant person in general.

You truly think highly of yourself. You are a Pharisee before the Lord.
LUKE 18:9-14
9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

 

[Dino246]

You truly think highly of yourself. You are a Pharisee before the Lord.
LUKE 18:9-14
9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

Yawn. I made no mention of myself. I don’t need to think highly of myself to identify error when I see it.

Interesting that you use that line of reasoning though; you must be projecting your high opinion of yourself when you imply that I don’t know the Lord.

 

[TruthDefender]

Jesus never said that he is God the father!
Forgiving of sins is conectet with the faith in Jesus Christ. Not in knowing God. For no human beiing it is possible to know God. Except he reveales everything about Himself. But this he not did. He reveals what we need to know!

““If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?”
‭‭John‬ ‭14‬:‭7‬, ‭9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

 

[TruthDefender]

A man can do nothing to distinguish in his own who is the false Christ and false Prophets.

Not true!

If you know Scripture, you will know who speaks Truth and who spews false doctrine.

 

[TruthDefender]

In The New Testament, Jesus revealed it to his Disciples only but not to the Jews (even though the Jews believe in the words of God).

Who do you think His disciples were, initially? They were Jews.

 

[TruthDefender]

Jesus never said that he is God the father!
Forgiving of sins is conectet with the faith in Jesus Christ. Not in knowing God. For no human beiing it is possible to know God. Except he reveales everything about Himself. But this he not did. He reveals what we need to know!

““If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.””
‭‭John‬ ‭14‬:‭7‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

 

[TruthDefender]

You are proving Matthew 24:35 The words of God never pass away.
I can see the characters of the Scribes and Pharisees within you.

1. Scribes & Pharisees don't believe that Jesus Christ is speaking in Parables (John 2:20)
2. You can't identify who God the Father is (John 8:54-55)
3. Scribes & Pharisees said Jesus has the devil.
JOHN 10:20
20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?

Little by little you've been expose by the truth in the words of God that you are in the side of the Scribes & Pharisees. According to Our Lord Jesus there is no truth in them.

I’ve read many of your posts, and they tell me that you are deficient in Scriptural knowledge. You often say the opposite of what is Truth, or you take things out of context.

 

[TruthDefender]

If Satan looks like Jesus no man could distinguish him

Aside from Satan looks like Jesus.
He can transform himself as Angel of light same with his ministers.

Who can distinguish them but Jesus alone.

2 CORINTHIANS 11:14-15
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

If you know Scripture, you will come to know who they are….

 

[TruthDefender]

Ik you didn’t direct that to me, but I’ll reply anyway.
The feasts may be a type, like the Passover feast/ the last supper is now our communion; however, this is the only thing we are commanded to perform. It’s a part of the pattern in the NT/ NC.
All other feasts have ended.

 

[TruthDefender]

Let's just make this simple with a yes or no answer.

Do you belive the 7 feasts of the lord foreshadow Christ's complete redemptive work: death. burial, resurrection, pouring out of the spirit upon mankind, making reconciliation with his blood for his people, his return to earth and his peoples' rewards and rest from their labors?

Yes or no?

I’ve never heard it being called the 7 feasts? But everything else you just stated is a YES.

The Passover Feast became our communion feast every 1st Day of the week.

 

[frederickdoc]

I'm going with The king brings the Bread and the Wine. Just a king of Salem and to finish the blessing Jesus is giving as He asended .
Let's use OT to paint the whole picture not focus on one little dot. This is a king celebration Behold how the king does it as The King even with other kings . All feast and stuff is not my heritage if I really needed to know something special for a study that's about it. my walk don't depend on a nation I know that failed God but because of one man the king is King

 

[DavidLamb]

For God desires both knowledge and wisdom. It is not enough merely to know that there is one throne in heaven, for that is only knowledge. You must identify the One who is seated on the throne so that your knowledge may become wisdom.

You can identify the One seated on the one throne in heaven (Revelation 4:2), if what you say comes from God and not from any person or from yourself.
Once you identify Him, you will also recognize the Jesus who came in the flesh (1 John 4:2–3).
And through that, you will also know whether the name you are using here comes from God or is merely from yourself.

The name you're using is actually very beautiful, very biblical. But it would be a shame if it didn't come from God.

I agree that it is no good just knowing that there is a throne in heaven with somebody sitting on it, if we don't also know that the Bible tells us Who is seated on that throne. Not knowing who it is, is a bit like knowing that the Bible tells us about a Saviour, but not knowing that the Bible also clearly tells us Who that Saviour is.

The One seated on the throne in Revelation 4:2 can be identified by looking at two later verses in the same chapter:

(Rev 4:10 NKJV) the twenty-four elders fall down before Him who sits on the throne and worship Him who lives forever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying:
(Rev 4:11) "You are worthy, O Lord, To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your will they exist and were created."

I wonder what you mean by the name I am using. If you mean my user name here on Christian Chat, that is my actual name.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

I’ve never heard it being called the 7 feasts? But everything else you just stated is a YES.

The Passover Feast became our communion feast every 1st Day of the week.

Feasts is the wording used in the KJV bible. I usually use the word festivals, but appointed times is the correct term.

 

[Godsgood]

Not true!

If you know Scripture, you will know who speaks Truth and who spews false doctrine.

All groups that make up Christianity are familiar with the Scriptures. However, the fact that they do not agree with one another shows that they do not truly know Satan. Otherwise, they would all share the same understanding of the Scriptures.

Therefore, merely knowing the Scriptures is not enough to truly know Satan. Remember that Satan uses the Scriptures to deceive people, just as he did when he tempted the Lord Jesus.
MATTHEW 4:5-6
5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

And the Scripture that Satan used was indeed written in the Scriptures.
PSALMS 91:11-12
11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.

 

[Godsgood]

““If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?”
‭‭John‬ ‭14‬:‭7‬, ‭9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

If the Lord Jesus is God the Father, how do you reconcile what He said to the rich young ruler?
When the young ruler called Him "Good Teacher," He did not accept the title, saying that only God the Father is good.
LUKE 18:18-19
18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

 

[Godsgood]

Not true!

If you know Scripture, you will know who speaks Truth and who spews false doctrine.

If the Scriptures alone were sufficient to recognize Satan, then he would not have deceived the various groups within Christianity, all of whom are knowledgeable in the Scriptures. Yet today, each follows its own path, believing it to be the right one. But in the end, it leads to destruction.
PROVERBS 14:12
12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.