How do we distinguish false Christ & false Prophets according to Our Lord?

[Godsgood]

Who do you think His disciples were, initially? They were Jews.

Those whom God has chosen today were once part of Christianity. However, God has called them out and brought them into His flock. The same was true of the Lord's disciples. They were once Jews, but the Lord brought them into His flock.

 

[Godsgood]

I’ve read many of your posts, and they tell me that you are deficient in Scriptural knowledge. You often say the opposite of what is Truth, or you take things out of context.

What you are saying is the same thing the Jews said to the Lord Jesus long ago, and even worse. Whenever He shared the truth with them, they mocked and ridiculed it.
JOHN 10:20
20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?

 

[TruthDefender]

If the Lord Jesus is God the Father, how do you reconcile what He said to the rich young ruler?
When the young ruler called Him "Good Teacher," He did not accept the title, saying that only God the Father is good.
LUKE 18:18-19
18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

Where on earth did I ever say that Jesus was God the Father?? You have mixed me up with someone else!!

I believe in the Trinity, that all 3 are separate but one in belief; just as Christians are many, but one in Him.

 

[TruthDefender]

All groups that make up Christianity are familiar with the Scriptures. However, the fact that they do not agree with one another shows that they do not truly know Satan. Otherwise, they would all share the same understanding of the Scriptures.

Therefore, merely knowing the Scriptures is not enough to truly know Satan. Remember that Satan uses the Scriptures to deceive people, just as he did when he tempted the Lord Jesus.
MATTHEW 4:5-6
5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

And the Scripture that Satan used was indeed written in the Scriptures.
PSALMS 91:11-12
11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.

Satan, I’m sure, is behind the many factions, but people must read Scripture to Know God’s will.

Get behind me Satan so I can move forward with knowledge from God the Father.

 

[Godsgood]

I agree that it is no good just knowing that there is a throne in heaven with somebody sitting on it, if we don't also know that the Bible tells us Who is seated on that throne. Not knowing who it is, is a bit like knowing that the Bible tells us about a Saviour, but not knowing that the Bible also clearly tells us Who that Saviour is.

The One seated on the throne in Revelation 4:2 can be identified by looking at two later verses in the same chapter:

(Rev 4:10 NKJV) the twenty-four elders fall down before Him who sits on the throne and worship Him who lives forever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying:
(Rev 4:11) "You are worthy, O Lord, To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your will they exist and were created."

I wonder what you mean by the name I am using. If you mean my user name here on Christian Chat, that is my actual name.

The truth in God's words is for His lost sheep whom He is seeking. Because these lost sheep (who are still goats at present) are mixed in among the goats, the Lord speaks to everyone. That is why everyone hears Him. Yet He knows that only the lost sheep will humble themselves before Him.


For this reason, the Lord has people identify who the one God is who sits on the one throne in heaven (Revelation 4:2), and who Jesus is who came in the flesh (1 John 4:2–3). In this way, He will find His lost sheep. Those who are not His lost sheep and remain proud will continue to be goats. But those who ask God for mercy as an expression of humility (acknowledging before the Lord that they do not know the one true God, nor Jesus who came in the flesh) will be transformed by the Lord from goats into sheep.
JOHN 10:27
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:


I wonder what you mean by the name I am using. If you mean my user name here on Christian Chat, that is my actual name.
OOOPPPSSS!!! Sorry. I thought it was just your code name.
Don’t you want to find out why that name was given to you as something biblical? Who knows, God may know.

 

[Godsgood]

Where on earth did I ever say that Jesus was God the Father?? You have mixed me up with someone else!!

I believe in the Trinity, that all 3 are separate but one in belief; just as Christians are many, but one in Him.

Then how do you explain your post regarding wht the Lord Jesus said?

If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”

 

[Godsgood]

Satan, I’m sure, is behind the many factions, but people must read Scripture to Know God’s will.

Get behind me Satan so I can move forward with knowledge from God the Father.

I don’t know if you just mentioned it or if you were referring to someone.
Get behind me Satan so I can move forward with knowledge from God the Father.

 

[Godsgood]

Yawn. I made no mention of myself. I don’t need to think highly of myself to identify error when I see it.

Interesting that you use that line of reasoning though; you must be projecting your high opinion of yourself when you imply that I don’t know the Lord.

It did not come from me that you do not know the one true God. It is the Lord who revealed it, and I believed Him.

 

[TruthDefender]

Then how do you explain your post regarding wht the Lord Jesus said?

If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”

Then you do not understand Scripture, or what you’re reading.
It doesn’t even say they are one in the same! I don’t know how you can read that?

if you know Jesus through the word, then you will know His Father too, because they are in agreement; just as those in Him are supposed to be one in agreement.

 

[Dino246]

It did not come from me that you do not know the one true God. It is the Lord who revealed it, and I believed Him.

Whatever spirit is telling you that crap certainly is not the Lord Jesus Christ. You have absolutely no objective evidence supporting your accusation.

 

[Standard]

If the Lord Jesus is God the Father, how do you reconcile what He said to the rich young ruler?
When the young ruler called Him "Good Teacher," He did not accept the title, saying that only God the Father is good.
LUKE 18:18-19
18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

Are you saying Jesus isn't God? While He humbled himself in a human form He wouldn't accept any worship, but that changed when He was glorified and rose up to the right hand-side of God

 

[Godsgood]

Whatever spirit is telling you that crap certainly is not the Lord Jesus Christ. You have absolutely no objective evidence supporting your accusation.

The Lord has already given you many signs and pieces of evidence. You refuse to accept them because you're afraid of yourself.

 

[Godsgood]

Are you saying Jesus isn't God? While He humbled himself in a human form He wouldn't accept any worship, but that changed when He was glorified and rose up to the right hand-side of God

I'm not saying that the Lord Jesus is not God. What I'm looking at is who among those reading has come to know the Lord Jesus through God's revelation (Matthew 16:15–17), rather than through human teaching.

How do you reconcile what you read about the Lord Jesus? Sometimes He appears not to be God, and at other times He is presented as God.

Examples: He is not God.
LUKE 18:18-19
18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

JOHN 5:19
19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

Examples: He is God.
JOHN 8:56-58
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

The Lord Jesus said to Satan, 'You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only shall you serve
MATTHEW 4:10
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

When the man who had been born blind worshiped the Lord Jesus, He accepted his worship
JOHN 9:38
38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.

I will repeat my question.
How do you reconcile these?

Anyone, even if they quote the words of God, will not be able to reconcile these passages if their understanding of the Lord Jesus comes only from human teaching rather than from God's revelation.

Hoever, I'm telling you, anyone who knows the Lord Jesus through God's revelation will find it easy to reconcile these passages

 

[Dino246]

The Lord has already given you many signs and pieces of evidence. You refuse to accept them because you're afraid of yourself.

Yet you are incapable of citing even one. Your familiar spirit is lying to you.

 

[Godsgood]

Then you do not understand Scripture, or what you’re reading.
It doesn’t even say they are one in the same! I don’t know how you can read that?

if you know Jesus through the word, then you will know His Father too, because they are in agreement; just as those in Him are supposed to be one in agreement.

Take note of Philip’s REQUEST to the Lord Jesus. Philip said "Show us the Father"
Philip was not requesting that you introduce or reveal the Father to us.
JOHN 14:8
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

That’s why the Lord Jesus responded to Philip’s request.
JOHN 14:9
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

How would you explain this since as you said "Through the Word" you can?

 

[DavidLamb]

I'm not saying that the Lord Jesus is not God. What I'm looking at is who among those reading has come to know the Lord Jesus through God's revelation (Matthew 16:15–17), rather than through human teaching.

How do you reconcile what you read about the Lord Jesus? Sometimes He appears not to be God, and at other times He is presented as God.

Examples: He is not God.
LUKE 18:18-19
18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

JOHN 5:19
19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

Examples: He is God.
JOHN 8:56-58
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

The Lord Jesus said to Satan, 'You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only shall you serve
MATTHEW 4:10
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

When the man who had been born blind worshiped the Lord Jesus, He accepted his worship
JOHN 9:38
38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.

I will repeat my question.
How do you reconcile these?

Anyone, even if they quote the words of God, will not be able to reconcile these passages if their understanding of the Lord Jesus comes only from human teaching rather than from God's revelation.

Hoever, I'm telling you, anyone who knows the Lord Jesus through God's revelation will find it easy to reconcile these passages

I don't read a passage such as Luke 18:18-19 as meaning that Jesus Christ is not fully God. Rather, He is encouraging the ruler to recognize Him for Who He is. Not a mere wandering preacher, but fully God. I agree with you that anyone who knows the Lord Jesus through God's revelation will find it easy to reconcile these passages.

 

[Godsgood]

Where on earth did I ever say that Jesus was God the Father?? You have mixed me up with someone else!!

I believe in the Trinity, that all 3 are separate but one in belief; just as Christians are many, but one in Him.

At the time, I entrusted the word of God and salvation to my preacher. That is my belief in the Trinitarian doctrine.
And I know that there is only one God and Lord (Mark 12:29).
But when I am asked how the one God fits in the Trinitarian doctrine, I cannot answer it.
Because how can three be one? It is not possible that 3 equals 1. If I answered that in a math subject, I would surely get an X grade. How do you clearly explain 3 = 1?

 

[Godsgood]

I don't read a passage such as Luke 18:18-19 as meaning that Jesus Christ is not fully God. Rather, He is encouraging the ruler to recognize Him for Who He is. Not a mere wandering preacher, but fully God. I agree with you that anyone who knows the Lord Jesus through God's revelation will find it easy to reconcile these passages.

Read carefully the Lord Jesus’ answer to the young ruler: ‘Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone.’
He was claiming that He is not God, so He did not claim to be good. since only one is good, and that is God.
LUKE 18:18-19
18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

If you truly believe that knowing the Lord Jesus should come from the revelation of the Father, then you should have seen in that scene that the young ruler’s understanding of the Lord was not from God the Father.

Look at the man who was born blind. Because his knowledge of the Lord Jesus came from God, the Lord accepted the man’s worship of Him. That is something the Lord did not do with the young ruler
JOHN 9:38
38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.

 

[Godsgood]

Yet you are incapable of citing even one. Your familiar spirit is lying to you.

It is not your words that will be the basis for salvation, but the truth that comes from God.

 

[DavidLamb]

Read carefully the Lord Jesus’ answer to the young ruler: ‘Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone.’
He was claiming that He is not God, so He did not claim to be good. since only one is good, and that is God.
LUKE 18:18-19
18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

If you truly believe that knowing the Lord Jesus should come from the revelation of the Father, then you should have seen in that scene that the young ruler’s understanding of the Lord was not from God the Father.

Look at the man who was born blind. Because his knowledge of the Lord Jesus came from God, the Lord accepted the man’s worship of Him. That is something the Lord did not do with the young ruler
JOHN 9:38
38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.

So do you think Jesus Christ was actually saying to the ruler, "You should not call Me good because only God is good and I'm not God"?