The book of Job

[reneweddaybyday]

Job

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Have you read the verses in Ezekiel and James?

Ezekiel 14:12-20 confirm Job was a righteous man, and Ezekiel holds Job in high esteem along with Noah and Daniel.

James 5:10-11 compares the suffering of Job to the suffering the prophets went through.

Ezekiel and James mention Job ... does that mean nothing to you?

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[tttallison]

I noted that verse also. Job said that while he was struggling to see any reason that he should repent, and so was stumped at why he was being brought so low.

We have trouble seeing our own pride.

Job 41:4 Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever? Job 41:34 He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.

 

[Mem]

We have trouble seeing our own pride.

Job 41:4 Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever? Job 41:34 He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.

Ahh yes, don't we though!
Job 41 reinvented:
"Look, who is king over whom?"

 

[christophernyc]

You avoided answering the question. Yes, Job had faith that God would save him. Job knew he didn't have the power to save himself. But here is the problem, Job thought he deserved to be saved because he was a good person. We know, or at least I hope you know that no one is ever saved because they are a good person. Job needed to be clothed in God's righteousness, who we know to be Jesus Christ.

God said, Job 40:8 Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?
The spirit said,Job 4:17 Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Elihu said, Job 35:2 Thinkest thou this to be right, that thou saidst, My righteousness is more than God's?
The three friends said, Job 32:1 So these three men ceased to answer Job, because he was righteous in his own eyes.

In answer to your question, yes.

Job 27:6 My righteousness I hold fast, and will not let it go: my heart shall not reproach me so long as I live.

This was asked a couple of times now. You answered “yes” to the question of Job was persevering in his pride the whole time he was suffering. Here is the question:

So according to your own independent interpretation, Job is persevering in his pride the whole time he is suffering?

(To this you answered “yes”.)

So can you please explain how you support this belief?

Also, instead of the word “steadfastness” wouldn't the proper word for your independent interpretation be “stubbornness”?

And please tell us, why in the world would James commend Job for being steadfast in his pride?

And if Job is persevering “in his pride” as you believe, why would Job ask this during his suffering:

Job 13:23 (Job)
How many are mine iniquities and sins? make me to know my transgression and my sin.

Does a person full of pride eagerly ask for their sins to be shown them? Is that the posture of a proud person?

What is your explanation?

 

[tttallison]

This was asked a couple of times now. You answered “yes” to the question of Job was persevering in his pride the whole time he was suffering. Here is the question:

So according to your own independent interpretation, Job is persevering in his pride the whole time he is suffering?

(To this you answered “yes”.)

So can you please explain how you support this belief?

Also, instead of the word “steadfastness” wouldn't the proper word for your independent interpretation be “stubbornness”?

And please tell us, why in the world would James commend Job for being steadfast in his pride?

And if Job is persevering “in his pride” as you believe, why would Job ask this during his suffering:

Job 13:23 (Job)
How many are mine iniquities and sins? make me to know my transgression and my sin.

Does a person full of pride eagerly ask for their sins to be shown them? Is that the posture of a proud person?

What is your explanation?

You have admitted I answered your question, so how about answering mine. The answer needs to be either Job's or God's.

Was Job's trusting his own righteousness or was he trusting in God's righteousness. You obviously know the answer and yet you refused to answer.

 

[GWH]

You are right/wise to focus on the meaning/message rather than perseverate about the historicity of the man.
IMO Job seems to be composed as a morality play. Do you agree with that idea?

The moral of the drama starring Job is that we should persevere having faith that God will save us from suffering and life will be happy.

 

[christophernyc]

You have admitted I answered your question, so how about answering mine. The answer needs to be either Job's or God's.

Was Job's trusting his own righteousness or was he trusting in God's righteousness. You obviously know the answer and yet you refused to answer.

Sorry, this response reads as avoidance.

I’ve answered your question several times now, as you know. Job is trusting in God Himself.

You also claimed Job believes he “deserves” to be saved because of his good works, but you never provided any reference from the text for that claim. This was asked before, too, but, again, do you have a verse for this claim? Where does Job say this?

But my question to you was not a repeat. It was a continuation of thought regarding James’s commendation of Job.

You answered “yes” to Job persevering and being steadfast in his pride. So can you answer the follow up questions? Are you willing and able to answer them?

Why would James commend Job for being steadfast in his pride?

And if Job is persevering “in his pride” as you believe, why would Job ask this during his suffering?

Job 13:23 (Job)
How many are mine iniquities and sins? make me to know my transgression and my sin.

Does a person full of pride eagerly ask for their sins to be shown them? Is that the posture of a proud person?

What is your explanation?

 

[tttallison]

Sorry, this response reads as avoidance.

I’ve answered your question several times now, as you know. Job is trusting in God Himself.

You also claimed Job believes he “deserves” to be saved because of his good works, but you never provided any reference from the text for that claim. This was asked before, too, but, again, do you have a verse for this claim? Where does Job say this?

Why are you afraid to say Job is depending on God's righteousness?

You want a place where Job said he deserved to be saved? Job implied it with his speech.

Job 29:11-21 When the ear heard me, then it blessed me; and when the eye saw me, it gave witness to me: Because I delivered the poor that cried, and the fatherless, and him that had none to help him. The blessing of him that was ready to perish came upon me: and I caused the widow's heart to sing for joy. The blessing of him that was ready to perish came upon me: and I caused the widow's heart to sing for joy. I was eyes to the blind, and feet was I to the lame. I was a father to the poor: and the cause which I knew not I searched out. And I brake the jaws of the wicked, and plucked the spoil out of his teeth. Then I said, I shall die in my nest, and I shall multiply my days as the sand. My root was spread out by the waters, and the dew lay all night upon my branch. My glory was fresh in me, and my bow was renewed in my hand. Unto me men gave ear, and waited, and kept silence at my counsel.

Does it sound like Job is bragging about his goodness? And then there is the claim that God is unfair.

Job 9:17 For he breaketh me with a tempest, and multiplieth my wounds without cause.
Job 9:22 This is one thing, therefore I said it, He destroyeth the perfect and the wicked.
Job 9:23 If the scourge slay suddenly, he will laugh at the trial of the innocent.

And then there is this.

Job 40:2 Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it.
Job 40:8 Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?
Job 40:14 Then will I also confess unto thee that thine own right hand can save thee.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

You want a place where Job said he deserved to be saved? Job implied it with his speech.

Job 29:11-21 When the ear heard me, then it blessed me; and when the eye saw me, it gave witness to me: Because I delivered the poor that cried, and the fatherless, and him that had none to help him. The blessing of him that was ready to perish came upon me: and I caused the widow's heart to sing for joy. The blessing of him that was ready to perish came upon me: and I caused the widow's heart to sing for joy. I was eyes to the blind, and feet was I to the lame. I was a father to the poor: and the cause which I knew not I searched out. And I brake the jaws of the wicked, and plucked the spoil out of his teeth. Then I said, I shall die in my nest, and I shall multiply my days as the sand. My root was spread out by the waters, and the dew lay all night upon my branch. My glory was fresh in me, and my bow was renewed in my hand. Unto me men gave ear, and waited, and kept silence at my counsel.

Does it sound like Job is bragging about his goodness?

Job was not implying that he deserved to be saved.

Job was recounting the time prior to his current dilemma brought upon him by satan. God did not inflict Job with sore boils from the soles of his feet to the top of his head (Job 2:7). God did not kill Job's children ... nor did God destroy Job's servants, herds and flocks (Job 1).

When Job was in good health, he readily helped out "the poor that cried, the fatherless, and him that had none to help him" ... You, Eliphaz, Bildad, Zophar, Elihu all believe Job was "bragging about his goodness" when all Job did was respond to the false claims of Eliphaz, Bildad, Zophar.

There was no sin committed by Job for which he was being chastened by God. Everything Job suffered was a direct result of satan doing what satan does ... we know satan "walketh about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour" because God has revealed that to us. We know satan's ministry is to "steal, and to kill, and to destroy" because God has revealed that to us. Job and his friends knew nothing about satan.

And then there is the claim that God is unfair.

Job 9:17 For he breaketh me with a tempest, and multiplieth my wounds without cause.
Job 9:22 This is one thing, therefore I said it, He destroyeth the perfect and the wicked.
Job 9:23 If the scourge slay suddenly, he will laugh at the trial of the innocent.

vs 17 – you and I know it was not God who broke Job ... it was not God who multiplied Job's wounds without cause. It was satan who attacked Job ... not God.

And it's very interesting you ignore verses between 17 and 22.

In vs 20, Job claimed "If I justify myself, mine own mouth shall condemn me: if I say, I am perfect, it shall also prove me perverse" ... but you can't consider those verses because they reveal your claim that Job said "he deserved to be saved" or that Job was "bragging about his goodness" is fraught with error.

And then there is this.

Job 40:2 Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it.
Job 40:8 Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?
Job 40:14 Then will I also confess unto thee that thine own right hand can save thee.

Again, you ignore Job's response in vss 3-5.

And the verses between Job 40:8 and Job 40:14 have been explained to you more than a few times, but you prefer to hold to your error.

I went through these verses from Job 40 with you.

Here is what I said then and hope/pray you will consider the explanation so that you come to a more accurate knowledge of God's Word:

reneweddaybyday said:​

Your question has been answered ... and you have not rebutted ... instead you just disregard and keep asking your question over and over. Do you want to understand the Book of Job? ... then consider the information you have been given.​

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In Job 40:6-14, God asked Job a series of rhetorical questions:​

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Job 40:8-14​

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8 Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?​

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9 Hast thou an arm like God? or canst thou thunder with a voice like him?​

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10 Deck thyself now with majesty and excellency; and array thyself with glory and beauty.​

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11 Cast abroad the rage of thy wrath: and behold every one that is proud, and abase him.​

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12 Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place.​

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13 Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.​

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14 Then will I also confess unto thee that thine own right hand can save thee.​

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The point behind these verses is -​

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vs 8 – if Job could disannul the judgment of God ... or condemn God ...​

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vs 9 – if Job had an arm like God ... or if Job could thunder with a voice like God ...​

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vs 10 – if Job could deck himself with majesty and excellency and array himself with glory and beauty as God is in His majesty, excellence, glory and beauty ...​

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vs 11 – if Job could abase with a glance every one that is proud ...​

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vs 12 – if Job could bring low the proud and tread down the wicked ...​

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vs 13 – if Job could hide them in the dust never to arise ...​

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vs 14 – if Job could do the things described in the above verses, then God would confess that Job could save himself.​

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What God revealed to Job here (as well as what is stated from chapter 38 to 41) is that that God's ways are so far above man's ways, and it is God alone Who is the Creator of all, Who knows the ways of all creation, Who is more powerful than the most powerful creature.​

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Both God and Job knew Job could do none of those things. Both God and Job knew Job could not save himself. Job relied upon the same Redeemer you and I rely upon.​

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[tttallison]

Job was not implying that he deserved to be saved.

Job was recounting the time prior to his current dilemma brought upon him by satan. God did not inflict Job with sore boils from the soles of his feet to the top of his head (Job 2:7). God did not kill Job's children ... nor did God destroy Job's servants, herds and flocks (Job 1).

When Job was in good health, he readily helped out "the poor that cried, the fatherless, and him that had none to help him" ... You, Eliphaz, Bildad, Zophar, Elihu all believe Job was "bragging about his goodness" when all Job did was respond to the false claims of Eliphaz, Bildad, Zophar.

There was no sin committed by Job for which he was being chastened by God. Everything Job suffered was a direct result of satan doing what satan does ... we know satan "walketh about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour" because God has revealed that to us. We know satan's ministry is to "steal, and to kill, and to destroy" because God has revealed that to us. Job and his friends knew nothing about satan.





vs 17 – you and I know it was not God who broke Job ... it was not God who multiplied Job's wounds without cause. It was satan who attacked Job ... not God.

And it's very interesting you ignore verses between 17 and 22.

In vs 20, Job claimed "If I justify myself, mine own mouth shall condemn me: if I say, I am perfect, it shall also prove me perverse" ... but you can't consider those verses because they reveal your claim that Job said "he deserved to be saved" or that Job was "bragging about his goodness" is fraught with error.





Again, you ignore Job's response in vss 3-5.

And the verses between Job 40:8 and Job 40:14 have been explained to you more than a few times, but you prefer to hold to your error.

I went through these verses from Job 40 with you.

Here is what I said then and hope/pray you will consider the explanation so that you come to a more accurate knowledge of God's Word:

reneweddaybyday said:​

Your question has been answered ... and you have not rebutted ... instead you just disregard and keep asking your question over and over. Do you want to understand the Book of Job? ... then consider the information you have been given.​

​

In Job 40:6-14, God asked Job a series of rhetorical questions:​

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Job 40:8-14​

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8 Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?​

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9 Hast thou an arm like God? or canst thou thunder with a voice like him?​

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10 Deck thyself now with majesty and excellency; and array thyself with glory and beauty.​

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11 Cast abroad the rage of thy wrath: and behold every one that is proud, and abase him.​

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12 Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place.​

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13 Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.​

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14 Then will I also confess unto thee that thine own right hand can save thee.​

​

The point behind these verses is -​

​

vs 8 – if Job could disannul the judgment of God ... or condemn God ...​

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vs 9 – if Job had an arm like God ... or if Job could thunder with a voice like God ...​

​

vs 10 – if Job could deck himself with majesty and excellency and array himself with glory and beauty as God is in His majesty, excellence, glory and beauty ...​

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vs 11 – if Job could abase with a glance every one that is proud ...​

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vs 12 – if Job could bring low the proud and tread down the wicked ...​

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vs 13 – if Job could hide them in the dust never to arise ...​

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vs 14 – if Job could do the things described in the above verses, then God would confess that Job could save himself.​

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What God revealed to Job here (as well as what is stated from chapter 38 to 41) is that that God's ways are so far above man's ways, and it is God alone Who is the Creator of all, Who knows the ways of all creation, Who is more powerful than the most powerful creature.​

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Both God and Job knew Job could do none of those things. Both God and Job knew Job could not save himself. Job relied upon the same Redeemer you and I rely upon.​

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People who don't know how to be just with God believe if their good out weighs their bad they will be OK. So along comes Job who exceeds most people in doing good so naturally he believes he deserved to go to heaven. Hopefully you know what the problem is with that? When you are without knowledge you make mistakes.

Yes Job knew he couldn't save himself, but he thought he was more righteous than God, and therefore deserved heaven. Thinking you are more righteous than God is a pride problem. That is why God asked Job if he was going to take the king over all the children of pride for a servant forever.

 

[DavidLamb]

People who don't know how to be just with God believe if their good out weighs their bad they will be OK. So along comes Job who exceeds most people in doing good so naturally he believes he deserved to go to heaven. Hopefully you know what the problem is with that? When you are without knowledge you make mistakes.

Yes Job knew he couldn't save himself, but he thought he was more righteous than God, and therefore deserved heaven. Thinking you are more righteous than God is a pride problem. That is why God asked Job if he was going to take the king over all the children of pride for a servant forever.

Sorry, but where do we read in the Bible that Job thought himself more righteous than God? The nearest I could find was this verse, which is part of Eliphaz's speech, not Job claiming anything:

(Job 4:17 NKJV) 'Can a mortal be more righteous than God? Can a man be more pure than his Maker?

 

[reneweddaybyday]

People who don't know how to be just with God believe if their good out weighs their bad they will be OK. So along comes Job who exceeds most people in doing good so naturally he believes he deserved to go to heaven. Hopefully you know what the problem is with that? When you are without knowledge you make mistakes.

You again assume that Job behaved as you claim with no basis for your assumption (other than the false accusations of Job's friends).

Have you ever heard of "retribution theology"? From gotquestions.org:

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When Job’s friends came to speak to Job in his misery, they brought with them their retribution theology. Eliphaz sets the stage early on: “Consider now: Who, being innocent, has ever perished? Where were the upright ever destroyed? As I have observed, those who plow evil and those who sow trouble reap it. At the breath of God they perish; at the blast of his anger they are no more” (Job 4:7–9). In other words, Eliphaz simplistically concluded that the innocent are protected in this world and the wicked perish. Bildad and Zophar echo the same sentiments, accusing Job of wrongdoing, as evidenced by his plight (Job 8:6; 20:27–29). But all three of Job’s friends were wrong about Job and wrong about God (Job 42:7).​

What is retribution theology? | GotQuestions.org

What is retribution theology? Does everyone get what they deserve? Is retribution theology biblical?

www.gotquestions.org

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Yes Job knew he couldn't save himself, but he thought he was more righteous than God, and therefore deserved heaven.

Elihu misconstruing what Job said is not the same as Job having said what Elihu claimed.

Thinking you are more righteous than God is a pride problem. That is why God asked Job if he was going to take the king over all the children of pride for a servant forever.

sigh ... we have gone over Job 41:4 already ...

Post 106​

Post 235​

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Post 585​

... you and I are not in agreement.

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[christophernyc]

You want a place where Job said he deserved to be saved? Job implied it with his speech.

Job 29:11-21 When the ear heard me, then it blessed me; and when the eye saw me, it gave witness to me: Because I delivered the poor that cried, and the fatherless, and him that had none to help him. The blessing of him that was ready to perish came upon me: and I caused the widow's heart to sing for joy. The blessing of him that was ready to perish came upon me: and I caused the widow's heart to sing for joy. I was eyes to the blind, and feet was I to the lame. I was a father to the poor: and the cause which I knew not I searched out. And I brake the jaws of the wicked, and plucked the spoil out of his teeth. Then I said, I shall die in my nest, and I shall multiply my days as the sand. My root was spread out by the waters, and the dew lay all night upon my branch. My glory was fresh in me, and my bow was renewed in my hand. Unto me men gave ear, and waited, and kept silence at my counsel.

Does it sound like Job is bragging about his goodness? And then there is the claim that God is unfair.

OK so I will answer you question even thought this has been addressed before. It is not a new question.

No, it does not sound like Job is bragging about his goodness. I know you read the words in this story, but do you also read the context in which those words reside?

Let’s look at the verses preceding the verses you posted from chapter 29.

Job 29:2-5
Oh that I were as in months past, as in the days when God preserved me;
When His candle shined upon my head, and when by his light I walked through darkness;
As I was in the days of my youth, when the secret of God was upon my tabernacle;
When the Almighty was yet with me, when my children were about me;

(As a side note, this is just further evidence of Job having a relationship with God prior to his ordeal.)

So the **context** here is Job lamenting the time when he enjoyed sweet fellowship with His Lord God. That is what Job was remembering and missing — and he clearly acknowledges everything he has or did was because of God.

 

[christophernyc]

Why are you afraid to say Job is depending on God's righteousness?

You want a place where Job said he deserved to be saved? Job implied it with his speech.

Job 29:11-21 When the ear heard me, then it blessed me; and when the eye saw me, it gave witness to me: Because I delivered the poor that cried, and the fatherless, and him that had none to help him. The blessing of him that was ready to perish came upon me: and I caused the widow's heart to sing for joy. The blessing of him that was ready to perish came upon me: and I caused the widow's heart to sing for joy. I was eyes to the blind, and feet was I to the lame. I was a father to the poor: and the cause which I knew not I searched out. And I brake the jaws of the wicked, and plucked the spoil out of his teeth. Then I said, I shall die in my nest, and I shall multiply my days as the sand. My root was spread out by the waters, and the dew lay all night upon my branch. My glory was fresh in me, and my bow was renewed in my hand. Unto me men gave ear, and waited, and kept silence at my counsel.

Does it sound like Job is bragging about his goodness? And then there is the claim that God is unfair.

Job 9:17 For he breaketh me with a tempest, and multiplieth my wounds without cause.
Job 9:22 This is one thing, therefore I said it, He destroyeth the perfect and the wicked.
Job 9:23 If the scourge slay suddenly, he will laugh at the trial of the innocent.

And then there is this.

Job 40:2 Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it.
Job 40:8 Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?
Job 40:14 Then will I also confess unto thee that thine own right hand can save thee.

But your response continues to avoid the question. Are you willing and/or able to address it?

This question is not a repeat. It is a continuation of thought regarding James’s commendation of Job.

You answered “yes” to Job persevering and being steadfast in his pride. So can you answer the follow up questions?

Why would James commend Job for being steadfast in his pride?

And if Job is persevering “in his pride” as you believe, why would Job ask this during his suffering?

Job 13:23 (Job)
How many are mine iniquities and sins? make me to know my transgression and my sin.

Does a person full of pride eagerly ask for their sins to be shown them? Is that the posture of a proud person?

What is your explanation? Are you able to support your claim?

 

[tttallison]

Sorry, but where do we read in the Bible that Job thought himself more righteous than God? The nearest I could find was this verse, which is part of Eliphaz's speech, not Job claiming anything:

(Job 4:17 NKJV) 'Can a mortal be more righteous than God? Can a man be more pure than his Maker?

Job 35:2 Thinkest thou this to be right, that thou saidst, My righteousness is more than God's?

Job 40:8 Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?

Job 40:2 Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it.

I believe these verses speak for themselves.

 

[DavidLamb]

Job 35:2 Thinkest thou this to be right, that thou saidst, My righteousness is more than God's?

Job 40:8 Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?

Job 40:2 Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it.

I believe these verses speak for themselves.

Only the first of those verses mentions being more righteous than God, and that verse consists of words of Elihu:

(Job 35:1) Moreover Elihu answered and said:
(Job 35:2) "Do you think this is right? Do you say, 'My righteousness is more than God's'?

Even Elihu did not accuse Job of actually claiming to be more righteous than God, but just asked Job, "Do you say, 'My righteousness is more than God's?'"

 

[tttallison]

Only the first of those verses mentions being more righteous than God, and that verse consists of words of Elihu:

(Job 35:1) Moreover Elihu answered and said:
(Job 35:2) "Do you think this is right? Do you say, 'My righteousness is more than God's'?

Even Elihu did not accuse Job of actually claiming to be more righteous than God, but just asked Job, "Do you say, 'My righteousness is more than God's?'"

God doesn't count? Job asked God for a mediator that wouldn't scare him like God, and God sent him Elihu to stand in God's place. Can you tell me what you have against Elihu?

And yes Elihu did charge Job with saying his righteousness was greater than God's.

 

[DavidLamb]

God doesn't count? Job asked God for a mediator that wouldn't scare him like God, and God sent him Elihu to stand in God's place. Can you tell me what you have against Elihu?

And yes Elihu did charge Job with saying his righteousness was greater than God's.

Where are we told that God sent Elihu to Job? Elihu is mentioned seven times in the Book of Job:

Job_32:2 Then the wrath of Elihu, the son of Barachel the Buzite, of the family of Ram, was aroused against Job; his wrath was aroused because he justified himself rather than God.
Job_32:4 Now because they were years older than he, Elihu had waited to speak to Job.
Job_32:5 When Elihu saw that there was no answer in the mouth of these three men, his wrath was aroused.
Job_32:6 So Elihu, the son of Barachel the Buzite, answered and said: "I am young in years, and you are very old; Therefore I was afraid, And dared not declare my opinion to you.
Job_34:1 Elihu further answered and said:
Job_35:1 Moreover Elihu answered and said:
Job_36:1 Elihu also proceeded and said:

Where does it say that God sent him?

 

[christophernyc]

Where are we told that God sent Elihu to Job? Elihu is mentioned seven times in the Book of Job:

Job_32:2 Then the wrath of Elihu, the son of Barachel the Buzite, of the family of Ram, was aroused against Job; his wrath was aroused because he justified himself rather than God.
Job_32:4 Now because they were years older than he, Elihu had waited to speak to Job.
Job_32:5 When Elihu saw that there was no answer in the mouth of these three men, his wrath was aroused.
Job_32:6 So Elihu, the son of Barachel the Buzite, answered and said: "I am young in years, and you are very old; Therefore I was afraid, And dared not declare my opinion to you.
Job_34:1 Elihu further answered and said:
Job_35:1 Moreover Elihu answered and said:
Job_36:1 Elihu also proceeded and said:

Where does it say that God sent him?

Nowhere. Because Elihu is a false prophet. He is the spirit of anti christ. He is a deceiver and the accuser of the brethren.

The lovers of Elihu are being deceived. Sadly.

 

[tttallison]

Nowhere. Because Elihu is a false prophet. He is the spirit of anti christ. He is a deceiver and the accuser of the brethren.

The lovers of Elihu are being deceived. Sadly.

I don't understand how you can say that about Elihu. What Elihu stated God repeated.

You still haven't answered a simple question. Was Job depending on God's righteousness, or his own righteousness, to save him?