Correct, The Lord need not offer sacrifice continually as those of the Aaronic priesthood, because Aaron's people 'fell away' continually.
License to Sin
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No, the wages of sin is not life.
The wages of sin is death (separation from God) so a person like this goes to hell not to Heaven.
That explanation from the greasy grace teachers and it's based on scripture twisting, lies, subterfuge, chicanery, and tom foolery
No such thing as purgatory where people get a second chance to get saved after they leave this life.
That explanation from the catholics and it's based on scripture twisting, lies, subterfuge, chicanery, and tom foolery
You seem content with your current level of understanding. Keep pressing in and you'll get here!
Interesting since all of your arguments have contradictions and don't make sense. But that's okay. You can choose to ignore scripture, we all have free will.
Keep going! FYI: when you realize I was right all along there will be no need to apologize to me. Your maturity will be my reward.
You might want to work on your patronizing attitude. That in itself is a sin. I have confidence in where God is bringing me and your condescension isn't going to sway me. Thanks though.Keep going! FYI: when you realize I was right all along there will be no need to apologize to me. Your maturity will be my reward.
Only the devil goes around claiming one can turn away from God and not die spiritually.
That was the lie he sold Adam and Eve to get them to sin after God told them they would die (be separated from Him) if they do.
The old devil is still easily deceiving the gullible today with the same trick.
The gullible don't believe God's Word so of course they claim the devil's lie is true that one can sin and not be separated from the Lord
It's only condescending because you don't know your place. Keep pressing forward! You got this!
I've already been delivered from false doctrine and the victory is already mine!
This is why you'll never be able to sway me to come walk in darkness with you.
The devil can't trip me up, so you certainly can't.
Shaun.. it seems to me what your really saying is... to that you would answer NO never said that. Do you see? I listen to the one.. then the other. He never said that. His words were twisted.
If the bible says.. be baptized ..and I don't and I die. I will go to heaven. If someone hurt my wife or kids and I was so hurt still no reason not to forgive yet I just can't and I die I go to heaven. Its the .. the Heb 6 Heb 10 thing.. people get stuck on.
If I freely hear and know that I know that I know Christ is the only way and if I reject that.. and know I will not go to heaven and then I freely sin there is only judgement that remains. Jewish believers in Christ would sin and then try to offer a sacrifice for that sin. He said to them.. there is no more sacrifice for that sin. Context..
I do not understand.. well its like just not to long ago hearing these two young men they believe in Jesus. They said Jesus a few times visited them. One time the young man asked Jesus about the earth and is it flat. Well the king of kings and lord of lords said "if I made it flat I would have made you flat" Lol what? Then another time the young man was told by Christ if you do not forgive you will go to (forgive me Father) hell. Not even written that way. So NO will not post names or video.. blood of Jesus forgive us.
We add twist His words. Well if you do not forgive He will not forgive you and you will be lost forever. Yes even though you thought He died for the sin of the world ..but thats just the sins you repented of or just the past sins not any of the future sins. If your luke warm He will spit you out of His mouth and you are lost forever. Yes He said He was about to.. and we know what He really was saying.. like the video Shaun posted.
Shall I go on the list is huge! It just shows we do not know HIM. Question.. why is it.. for me.. its only been my whole walk with Him over 50+ years where the enemy came at me when I was 1st saved and how I was not because I did this or that. Then its man not GOD.. in all the wonderful moments.. He has never touched this...never. take forgiveness.. if you don't forgive them... it will hinder Me with you. Then He does something shows me something about that person I never saw.. and He loves them.. as I should. Then its always some verse..
For me this thread.. just showing this video about someone I personally don't know.. not in a good way..not speaking words of life.. does this make him look good or this video just backs up what you personally believe? Should not have been posted.. wanna talk about License to sin.. praise God go for it.. not this way.. this is not of GOD
I see so you believe Jesus lied about forgiveness?
You reap what you sow (Gal 6:7,8) so if you sow unforgiveness you shall reap unforgiveness.
To say we do not reap what we sow is mocking God according to Gal 6:7,8
Jesus said if you don't forgive others of their sins, then your Father will not forgive you of your sins.
Thank you for sharing that you believe Jesus told a falsehood in these scriptures below:
Matthew 6:15
If ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Matthew 6:12
And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
(forgive us in the same way we forgive others)
Luke 6:37
Forgive, and you will be forgiven.
Colossians 3:13
Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
If one refuses to forgive others sowing un-forgiveness, then they will reap un-forgiveness..... this is another proof text that OSAS is not a true biblical doctrine taught in God's Word
Galatians 6:7-8 (see Gen 8:22)
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
We should all remember the teaching Jesus gave about the guy that refused to forgive his fellow servant after having been forgiven himself in Matthew 18:21-35
In this teaching Jesus says those refusing to forgive will be given over to the tormentors (demons).
I've known numerous people over the years that were continually agitated and always troubled and when talking to them I'd ask if by chance had they been done wrong by someone in life.
And in each case they said yes somebody had done something bad to them... and they all said they refused to forgive them and would never forgive them.
This is why they live in a state of demonic oppression that can easily turn in to demonic possession that leads to their lives being destroyed with them dying and going to hell.
A word of caution... those refusing to forgive others may very well do some terrible thing to you too because they have demons controlling their lives!
Also, if one does not forgive... satan has advantage or power over them:
2 Corinthians 2:9-11
For to this end also did I write, that I might know the proof of you, whether ye be obedient in all things.
To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ;
Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
So you believe people can get in to Heaven then with their sins not forgiven, not being washed away by the Blood of the Lamb???
Sad to hear people still doing what the devil did with Adam and Eve which is to deceive and trick them in to not believing what the Lord said.
That would be you, not we.
That would be you, not we.
Yep, the devil really wished this video would not have been posted.
That's what the devil keep claiming.
Can you imagine anybody standing before the Lord saying "Lord, yes please forgive me of all my sins and wash me clean with the precious Blood of Jesus and receive me in to your Kingdom.... but that guy over there, I want him to burn in hell - Lord do NOT forgiven Him and have NO mercy on Him and send Him to hell!.... Save me, but NOT Him!"
We are told to treat others the way we would like to be treated. Remember that?
So how is it that it's OK with the Lord for us to treat others they way we would never want to be treated?
Those doing such as going to be shocked when they don't go where they are thinking when they die.
Those refusing to forgive don't understand that they too will receive NO mercy at judgement in the same way they showed NO mercy to those that had sinned against them they they refused to forgive..
James 2:13
For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
Matthew 7:2
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Jesus says these things because of this:
Galatians 6:7-8 (see Gen 8:22)
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
We are told to treat others the way we would like to be treated. Remember that?
So how is it that it's OK with the Lord for us to treat others they way we would never want to be treated?
Those doing such as going to be shocked when they don't go where they are thinking when they die.
Those refusing to forgive don't understand that they too will receive NO mercy at judgement in the same way they showed NO mercy to those that had sinned against them they they refused to forgive..
James 2:13
For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
Matthew 7:2
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Jesus says these things because of this:
Galatians 6:7-8 (see Gen 8:22)
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
If salvation was as easy as just believing in Jesus as God, and then we go to heaven no matter what, then these verses wouldn't make sense:
What is lawlessness?
That within itself shows that you can't just live in sin and expect to go to heaven. Because these people are calling Christ "Lord". So it's not like they don't know who he is!
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Disobedience to the revealed words that Jesus and then the Holy Spirit gave us.
Why would Jesus state the following?
Matthew 25:41-43
Then He will also say to those on His left, depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared
for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to
drink; I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did
not visit Me.
Disobedience is characteristic of the unsaved; not the saved
Notice only goats are listed in this group.
The loss/forfeit/walk away from/ of salvation crowd has yet to deal with DISCIPLINE.
Discipline can be a rough road. Fall from Grace, worse than an unbeliever........
But the loss of salvation crowd reads "Lose salvation" into every disciplinary verse.
His discipline may be very harsh, but not ONE loss of salvation believer can point to a definitive loss of salvation verse.
If we could lose salvation, it would be uncontested. He is a Gracious Father, and it would not be open ended.
Discipline can be a rough road. Fall from Grace, worse than an unbeliever........
But the loss of salvation crowd reads "Lose salvation" into every disciplinary verse.
His discipline may be very harsh, but not ONE loss of salvation believer can point to a definitive loss of salvation verse.
If we could lose salvation, it would be uncontested. He is a Gracious Father, and it would not be open ended.