Calvinism is Gospel !

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The Gospel of Gods Grace traces Salvation by Grace back to its original source, the Sovereign Election of God having chosen a people for Himself in Christ before the foundation of the world, so writes Paul Eph 1:3-6

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

This affirms Election of Grace is Gospel Theme ! How could a Preacher who preaches the Gospel of Gods Grace as Paul did Acts 20:24

24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

And not declare what things God did to save sinners to the praise of the Glory of His Grace ? 15
 
That is a massive caricature of what Calvinists actually believe and preach.

You’re attacking a strawman version of Reformed theology rather than what it actually teaches.

Firstly,, Calvinism doesn't teach that God forces anyone into salvation against their will. That’s a total myth. The idea behind "irresistible grace" isn't coercion; it’s transformation.
It means God changes a person’s heart so that they want to choose Him.

When a person gets saved, they do it willingly, joyfully, and of their own free choice because their eyes have finally been opened to how beautiful the Gospel is and how lost they are in a fallen world,living with a carnal mentality.

Psalm 110:3 says, God's people "will offer themselves freely" on the day of His power. It’s like a blind person being healed—they don't need to be "forced" to see; they just look.

The argument about the order of regeneration and faith being "backward" also misses what scripture actually says.

Jesus literally told Nicodemus in John 3 that a person has to be born again before they can even see or enter the kingdom of God.

Paul said in Ephesians 2 that we are completely "dead in trespasses and sins" before Christ makes us alive.

A dead person can't choose to do anything.

God has to breathe life into us first. That's called
Regeneration. That is the immediate, natural result of that new life when we repent and believe.

Jesus tells us this in John 6. He said, "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him."
That's Jesus ,who was God,telling us this.

It's not a backward gospel; it’s just how a spiritual resurrection works.

Also, the claim that Calvinists can't do evangelism or tell people to seek God is just historically and practically wrong.

Some of the most passionate evangelists and missionaries in church history—guys like George Whitefield, Jonathan Edwards, and Charles Spurgeon—were completely Reformed.

A Calvinist doesn’t try to guess who the "elect" are before they preach. They just stand up and give the universal offer of the Gospel to everyone, just like Paul did in Acts 17.

God "commands all people everywhere to repent."

If someone is actively seeking God, a Calvinist wouldn't tell them it's a waste of time. They’d tell them that their desire to seek God is absolute proof that the Holy Spirit is already at work in their heart!

Romans 3 tells us that no one naturally seeks God on their own.
That's not exclusive to Calvinism. God tells us that.

At the end of the day, Calvinism isn’t trying to overcomplicate the Gospel or make it exclusive.

It’s just trying to protect one core biblical truth: Salvation is 100% God's work from start to finish, and He gets all the credit.

You just confirmed the truth of everything Anchorite said.

Please realize that Calvinism includes many teachings that are true,
and the only part of it that is heretical/contrary to the Gospel is tulip,
because it views God as hateful and unjust/showing favoritism.

Thus, the only part you need to address in this discussion are those two untruths:
God's hatred and injustice toward the nonelect.
 
Heresy simply refers to any unorthodox teaching.

For example, Roman Catholics at the start of the Protestant Reformation viewed Protestants as Heretics. Some still do.

Furthermore, after all the contextually accurate posts I have made in this last hour or so, as well as have others, so as to use to demonstrate scriptural proof Calvinism is grounded in the Gospel, for you and others like you to ignore those facts as you continue to promote your slander against the Gospel and Calvinism, is to demonstrate you are not interested in learning the facts.
Or,God has made it so that you are unable to understand them.

People who know the truth,as I and others have posted,do not hate people.
The slanderous accusation does make us to appear just as Jesus foretold. When the world hated Him, they shall also hate us.

You see? God did know you al before the womb.

Heresy refers to unorthodox teaching that contradicts the Gospel of salvation.
Yes, RC was heretical until it finally cancelled the Inquisition in 1964.
When you make accusations, you should quote the offensive statement and cite GW indicating it is wrong.
If you do not hate people, why would you affirm a doctrine that indicates God hates the nonelect?!
Divine foreknowledge does not predetermine some souls will be condemned without a chance to be saved.
You see?
 
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I would say God is the author of sin but not the doer of sin. He is the author in the sense His eternal purpose wrote it sin into His world for a redemptive purpose. He scripted the sin of Lucifer, and Adam and Eve, to overrule for His Glory in Christ Jesus

God is the author of sin," is nowhere found in Scripture. It is a human teaching that contradicts the words of Jesus, the prophets, and the very character of God. The Bible reveals a God who is perfectly holy, righteous, and just. He cannot be the author of the very evil He condemns.

For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, Nor shall evil dwell with You. (Psalm 5:4, NKJV)

The LORD is righteous in all His ways, Gracious in all His works. (Psalm 145:17, NKJV)

God repeatedly declares that He hates sin.

These six things the LORD hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: A proud look, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood, A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil, A false witness who speaks lies, And one who sows discord among brethren. (Proverbs 6:16-19, NKJV)

If God authored sin, then He would be creating the very things He declares He hates. Such an idea makes God divided against Himself and contradicts His own holiness.

Jesus revealed where sin comes from.

For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within and defile a man. (Mark 7:21-23, NKJV)

Jesus never said these sins were written into people by God. He plainly taught that they come from within the sinner's own heart.

Jesus also taught that a good source cannot produce evil.

A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. (Matthew 7:18, NKJV)

If God is perfectly good, then according to Jesus' own words He cannot produce evil fruit. To claim that God authored sin directly contradicts Christ's teaching. A holy God cannot produce unholy works any more than a good tree can produce rotten fruit.

God always places people before a real choice.

I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live. (Deuteronomy 30:19, NKJV)

Joshua declared the same truth.

Choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve. (Joshua 24:15, NKJV)

A genuine choice cannot exist if every sin has already been scripted by God before anyone was born.

Even in the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve were given a command and a choice.

Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat.(Genesis 2:16-17, NKJV)

God warned them of the consequences. He did not make them sin. The serpent tempted them, and they freely chose to disobey.

Lucifer also was not created sinful.

You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, Till iniquity was found in you. (Ezekiel 28:15, NKJV)

The Scripture says iniquity was found in him. It does not say God created it in him or scripted his rebellion.

Some argue that because God used sin for His redemptive plan, He must therefore be its author. Scripture teaches exactly the opposite. God is able to bring good out of evil without being the cause of the evil.

Joseph's brothers freely chose to sell him into slavery. Years later Joseph told them,

But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good. (Genesis 50:20, NKJV)

Notice the clear distinction. They intended evil. God brought good from their evil. God did not cause their wickedness.

The greatest example is the crucifixion of Jesus. Wicked men freely chose to reject and kill the Son of God.

Jesus said,

Indeed the Son of Man goes as it has been determined, but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed! (Luke 22:22, NKJV)

God's plan of salvation was certain, yet Judas remained completely responsible for his own betrayal. Jesus did not praise Judas for carrying out a script. He pronounced judgment upon him.

Throughout Scripture, whenever people attempted to shift responsibility for sin onto God, they were rebuked. After eating the forbidden fruit, Adam answered,

The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate. (Genesis 3:12, NKJV)

Adam tried to move the blame toward God by pointing to the woman God had given him. God rejected the excuse and judged Adam for his own disobedience. Israel also blamed God for their own sins.

Yet you say, "The way of the Lord is not fair." Hear now, O house of Israel, is it not My way which is fair, and your ways which are not fair? (Ezekiel 18:25, NKJV)

God declared that His ways are just. The fault was with the people, not with Him. The prophet Ezekiel repeatedly emphasizes that every person is accountable for his own actions.

The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. (Ezekiel 18:20, NKJV)

Jesus likewise held every sinner personally responsible. Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.(John 8:24, NKJV)

If God had authored every sin, then holding people responsible for sins He Himself scripted would make His judgments unjust. Yet throughout Scripture God is always declared to be perfectly just. Abraham understood this when he asked,

Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right? (Genesis 18:25, NKJV). The answer throughout Scripture is always yes.

The Bible also declares, This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. (1 John 1:5, NKJV) If there is no darkness in God, then darkness cannot originate from Him.

To say that God scripted Lucifer's rebellion, Adam's fall, every lie, every murder, every act of adultery, every theft, every act of idolatry, and every wicked deed ever committed is to accuse God of being the source of the very things He hates and commands us to reject. Such a doctrine overturns God's holiness and makes Him responsible for all evil. Scripture never teaches this.

Instead, the Bible reveals something far more glorious. God created beings capable of genuine love and genuine obedience, and therefore capable of genuine rebellion. Sin entered because created beings freely chose to depart from God's perfect will. Yet God's wisdom is so great and His power so perfect that He can take even the evil choices of rebellious creatures and accomplish His righteous purposes without ever becoming the author of their sin. Evil belongs to the sinner. Judgment belongs to God. Redemption belongs to Christ.

The doctrine that God is the author of sin is not only without biblical support, it strikes at the very heart of God's holy character. Jesus revealed the Father as perfectly good, perfectly righteous, and perfectly just. His words leave no room for the idea that God writes sin into His creation. The Scriptures consistently teach that God warns against sin, hates sin, judges sin, calls sinners to repentance, and sent His Son to save us from sin, not to become its author. That is the testimony of the Scriptures from beginning to end.

@brightfame52 @Cameron143 there is no light in you only darkness, your own words prove it.
 
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Notice the extreme arrogance of the Calvinism advocates.

You never hear anyone say Finneyism is the Gospel, or Billy Grahamism is the Gospel, or Lutheranism is the Gospel, or DL Moodyism is the Gospel, or Erwin Lutzerism is the Gospel, or any other theologian-ism is the Gospel.

It’s only “Calvinism is the Gospel” — which is equating one deeply flawed and murderous man’s system with the scriptures.

Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are the Gospel.

Yes, as well as Paul and Peter.
 
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One of us has been comparing the TU and NT creeds, and what we have so far will be reposted separately because it is too long to fit in one post.

(The TULIP Creed)
  1. The Sovereign and Discriminating Jehovah: There is one sovereign, holy, and just God (Deut 6:4), who does whatever pleases Him in heaven and on earth (Psa 115:3). His saving love is not a blanket, helpless wish, but a discriminating, covenantal love reserved for His elect remnant, whom He chose in Christ before the foundation of the world purely according to the good pleasure of His will (Eph 1:4-5, Rom 11:5-7).
  2. Total Depravity and Inability: All human beings are born completely dead in trespasses and sins (Eph 2:1). The unregenerate mind is in total enmity against God, is not subject to His law, and possesses no spiritual free will or moral capacity to choose, seek, or please God (Rom 8:7-8, Rom 3:11). Left to themselves, all men justly deserve and willingly march toward eternal damnation.
  3. Particular and Particular Redemption: Jesus Christ is the incarnate Son of God and the True Israel (Isa 49:3). His atoning death on the cross was a flawless, penal substitution that actually, legally, and permanently put away the iniquities of His people alone (Matt 1:21, Isa 53:5-6). He did not pay for a single sin of those who end up in hell; rather, He successfully purchased full, irreversible justification and eternal redemption for His chosen sheep (John 10:11, Heb 8:12).
  4. Sovereign, Monergistic Regeneration: Because dead sinners cannot "decide" to believe (Rom 8:8), the Holy Spirit must first perform a sovereign, irresistible miracle of regeneration. God takes away the heart of stone and gives a heart of flesh (Ezek 36:26), making the elect completely willing in the day of His power (Psa 110:3). Faith and repentance are the immediate, inevitable fruits of this new birth, given exclusively to those ordained to eternal life (Acts 13:48, Eph 2:8).
  5. Preservation and Perseverance of the Saints: Salvation does not depend on human cooperation or man's ability to maintain his faith. Those whom God has chosen, Christ has bought, and the Spirit has regenerated are kept securely by the power of God (1 Pet 1:5). Christ will lose none of those the Father gave Him (John 6:39). Their perseverance in holiness is guaranteed because God continuously works in them both to will and to do of His good pleasure (Phil 2:13).
  6. The Ultimate Purpose: The Praise of His Grace: The gospel is not a human rescue plan centered around man's choices, but a divine theater designed exclusively to the praise of the glory of His sovereign grace (Eph 1:6). Any doctrine that suggests God is indebted to man, or that man's free will makes the ultimate decision in salvation, denies grace entirely, turns salvation into a debt (Rom 11:6, Rom 4:4), and presents a false, man-centered gospel.
 
(The NT Creed)

1. There is a/one all-loving and just Lord or God (Deut. 6:4, John 3:16, 2Thes. 1:6), who is both able (2Tim. 1:12) and willing (1Tim. 2:3-4, Ezek. 33:11) to provide all morally accountable human beings salvation or heaven—a wonderful life full of love, joy and peace forever.
2. Human beings are selfish or sinful (Rom. 3:23, 2Tim. 3:2-4, Col. 3:5), miserable (Gal. 5:19-21), and hopeless (Eph. 2:12) or hell-bound at the judgment (Matt. 23:33 & 25:46) when they reject God’s salvation (John 3:18, Rom. 2:5-11).
3. Jesus is God’s Messiah/Christ and incarnate Son, the way that God has chosen (John 3:16, Acts 16:30-31, Phil. 2:9-11) of providing salvation by means of his atoning death on the cross for the payment of the penalty for the sins of humanity (Rom. 3:22-25 & 5:9-11), followed by his resurrection to reign in heaven (1Cor. 15:14-28).
4. Thus, every person who hears the NT Gospel needs to repent and accept God’s justification in Jesus as Christ/Messiah the Lord or Supreme Commander (Luke 2:11, John 14:6, Acts 16:31), which means trying to obey (Phil. 3:12, 1John 1:8) His commandment to love one another (Matt. 22:37-40, John 13:35, Rom. 13:9)—forever (Matt. 10:22, Psa. 113:2).
5. Then God’s Holy Spirit will establish a saving relationship with those who freely accept Him (Rev. 3:20) that will eventually achieve heaven when by means of persevering in learning Truth/God’s Word/sanctification everyone cooperates fully with His will (John 14:6, 17&26, Rom. 8:6-17, Gal. 6:7-9, Eph. 1:13-14, Heb. 10:36, 12:1, Jam. 1:2-4).
6. This creed summarizes revelation of the NT Gospel/Truth (Matt. 26:13, John 14:6), which fulfilled the OT revelation (Matt. 5:17, John 19:30, Heb. 7:11-10:10) and culminates the search for salvation by souls who know only general revelation (Rom. 1:20, 2:14-16, Matt. 7:12). Seeking begins when souls love truth/repent of false beliefs (2Thes. 2:10&13, Matt. 4:17, 7:7), which is the Way to eternal life God wills, who is the Lord Jesus (Matt. 7:14, John 1:14, 4:24, 14:6). Lacking this love leads to believing lies and debauchery (Matt. 7:6, Rom. 1:18&25-26, 2Thes. 2:11-12).

The analysis of the first two points of these creeds that has been done will be in my next post.
 
Here are my comments comparing (C) the tulip (TU) creed with the NT creed:

TU-1. The Sovereign and Discriminating Jehovah: There is one sovereign, holy, and just God (Deut 6:4), who does whatever pleases Him in heaven and on earth (Psa 115:3). His saving love is not a blanket, helpless wish, but a discriminating, covenantal love reserved for His elect remnant, whom He chose in Christ before the foundation of the world purely according to the good pleasure of His will (Eph 1:4-5, Rom 11:5-7).

NT-1. There is a/one all-loving and just Lord or God (Deut. 6:4, John 3:16, 2Thes. 1:6), who is both able (2Tim. 1:12) and willing (1Tim. 2:3-4, Ezek. 33:11) to provide all morally accountable human beings salvation or heaven—a wonderful life full of love, joy and peace forever.

C-1. TU omits the NT teaching in John 3:16 & 1Tim. 2:3-4 that God is omniloving, and it views God as just even though He wills to save only a few who are favored with election, which contradicts 1Tim. 2:3-4 & Rom. 2:11. The creeds agree that God is sovereign, but the NT says God is pleased to save all who choose to repent (Matt. 4:17), seek God's salvation (Matt. 7:7) and believe in Christ (1Cor. 1:21-23).


TU-2. Total Depravity and Inability: All human beings are born completely dead in trespasses and sins (Eph 2:1). The unregenerate mind is in total enmity against God, is not subject to His law, and possesses no spiritual free will or moral capacity to choose, seek, or please God (Rom 8:7-8, Rom 3:11). Left to themselves, all men justly deserve and willingly march toward eternal damnation.

NT-2. Human beings are selfish or sinful (Rom. 3:23, 2Tim. 3:2-4, Col. 3:5), miserable (Gal. 5:19-21), and hopeless (Eph. 2:12) or hell-bound at the judgment (Matt. 23:33 & 25:46) when they reject God’s salvation (John 3:18, Rom. 2:5-11).

C-2. The TU and NT creeds agree that all have sinned, but they part ways regarding the capacity to choose aka moral free will.
TU claims that souls who are spiritually dead (per Eph. 2:1) cannot choose to repent, seek and believe in Christ's atonement, which contradicts (Matt. 2:17, 7:7 & Rom. 3:21-5:1. TU cites Rom. 8:7-8 as if it supports saying sinners cannot repent, apparently choosing to ignore Rom. 5:1-6:18, which teaches that souls are slaves to the spirit they willingly obey.

The third point will be analyzed in my next post.
 
Yes, but first explain in general terms what being born-again consists of. What actually happens to a person at that moment?
A born‑again person becomes spiritually awakened—given a new capacity to see the kingdom of God the way Jesus describes in John 3. In that moment, God’s Spirit brings life where there was only spiritual deadness. The individual receives a new heart that desires God, a new mind that understands spiritual truth, and a new identity as a child of God. Their relationship to sin changes: instead of being comfortable in darkness, they now hunger for righteousness. Their relationship to God changes: instead of fear or distance, they experience forgiveness, adoption, and the inner witness of the Spirit. And their relationship to the world changes: they begin to recognize God’s reign, God’s purposes, and God’s presence in ways they simply could not perceive before. Being born again is not just a moral improvement—it is a Spirit‑created transformation that enables a person to live in God’s reality.

Paul’s opening movement in Romans 8 makes the same essential claim Jesus makes in John 3: when the Spirit dwells in a person, their condition before God fundamentally changes. Paul ties the Spirit’s indwelling directly to being “in Christ”—a new realm of existence where condemnation is gone, the mind is set on life and peace, and the believer is empowered to walk in righteousness. This Spirit‑created union with Christ is not merely a moral shift but a new identity and new spiritual reality. And because the Spirit who indwells believers is the very Spirit who raised Jesus from the dead, Paul says that those who are **in Christ** can confidently look forward to being raised to life themselves. In other words, the same Spirit who awakens a person to see the kingdom also guarantees their future resurrection, making the born‑again experience both a present transformation and a promise of coming glory.

We could go into detail and examine these passages if you like.
 
The natural man is not my term, why do you call it that? It is a Biblical term.

God's plan was to unite man with Himself through Christ.

The natural man does not make that choice.

He is opposed to the Spiritual things of God.

A slave to sin.

Unable to receive or understand.

The expression "natural man" comes almost entirely from one passage written by Paul. Jesus never used this expression, nor do the original twelve disciples in their teachings.

The phrase appears in 1 Corinthians 2:14. Now the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him; and he cannot know them, because they are spiritually judged. (1 Corinthians 2:14 ASV)

The Greek word translated "natural" is psychikos (ψυχικός). It comes from the word psyche, meaning "soul" or "natural life." It describes a person who lives according to ordinary human nature instead of being led by God's Spirit. The word itself does not mean that a person is incapable of choosing God or responding to Him. Those ideas come from later theological interpretations rather than from the word itself.

The same Greek word appears in the letter of Jude. These are they who make separations, sensual, having not the Spirit. (Jude 19 ASV) Here, "sensual" is the same Greek word, psychikos. Many modern translations render it as "worldly," "natural," or "unspiritual." In both places, the emphasis is on a person's present way of living, not on an unchangeable condition.

Jesus never described people as "natural men." Instead, He used simple language that everyone could understand. He spoke of those who hear His words and obey them, and those who hear His words and refuse to obey. He spoke of good trees and bad trees, sheep and goats, wise builders and foolish builders, and those who love light and those who love darkness. His teaching always places the responsibility on the person's response to God's call.

Jesus invited everyone to come to Him. Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.(Matthew 11:28 ASV) He also said, If any man willeth to do his will, he shall know of the teaching, whether it is of God. (John 7:17 ASV) Notice that Jesus says, "If anyone is willing." He appeals to the person's willingness to follow God's will.

When speaking to those who rejected Him, Jesus did not say they were unable to come because they were "natural men." Instead, He said, And ye will not come to me, that ye may have life. (John 5:40 ASV) The problem was not that they lacked the ability to respond, but that they refused to do so. Throughout the Gospels, Jesus continually calls people to repent, believe, follow Him, keep His commandments, and remain in His word. These commands assume that people are responsible for how they respond to God's invitation.

The expression "natural man" became much more prominent many centuries later through theological systems that developed after the New Testament was written. During the Protestant Reformation, theologians such as John Calvin built doctrines around this passage, teaching that fallen man is spiritually unable to respond to God unless God first regenerates him. However, this conclusion goes beyond what the expression itself says. The verse states that the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit because they are spiritually discerned, but it does not explicitly teach that a person is incapable of responding to God's call or of turning to Christ. This is all from Man and not God.

If we allow Jesus' own words to be our primary guide as it should always be, then the expression "natural man" should not become the foundation for understanding salvation. Jesus consistently presents God as calling people, inviting them, warning them, pleading with them, and holding them accountable for their response. He said, For many are called, but few chosen.(Matthew 22:14 ASV) The call is broad, but only those who answer it in faith and obedience become the chosen. Jesus' teaching is centered on God's invitation and man's responsibility to respond. Rather than dividing humanity into fixed categories, He continually urges every person to hear His voice, repent, believe, obey His words, and enter into life.

I have shown verses that clearly express that God does gives us a choice, it is written.
 
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TU-3. Jesus Christ is the incarnate Son of God and the True Israel (Isa 49:3). His atoning death on the cross was a flawless, penal substitution that actually, legally, and permanently put away the iniquities of His people alone (Matt 1:21, Isa 53:5-6). He did not pay for a single sin of those who end up in hell; rather, He successfully purchased full, irreversible justification and eternal redemption for His chosen sheep (John 10:11, Heb 8:12).

NT-3. Jesus is God’s Messiah/Christ and incarnate Son, the way that God has chosen (John 3:16, Acts 16:30-31, Phil. 2:9-11) of providing salvation by means of his atoning death on the cross for the payment of the penalty for the sins of humanity (Rom. 3:22-25 & 5:9-11), followed by his resurrection to reign in heaven (1Cor. 15:14-28).

C-3. The TU point about Isa. 49:3 is true but not necessary to know and believe in order to be saved. Isa. 53:6 says the Lord laid on "him" the iniquity of us all, without clarifying who "us" is. Matt. 1:21 says Jesus will save his people from their sins without clarifying who "his people" are. John 10:11 says the good shepherd (Jesus) lays down his life for "the sheep" without clarifying who "the" includes, either potentially or actually. Heb. 8:12 says God will remember their sins no more, apparently referring to Jews who believe/accept the new covenant.

TU's belief in limited atonement ignores John 3:16, 1John 4:7-12, Rom. 5:8, Matt. 5:44&48, Gal. 5:6&14, Eph. 3:17b-19, Eph. 5:2 and 1Tim. 2:3-4, which might be deemed the “7 pearls”. Christ died to show God’s love and the possible salvation of all; God is omnilove as well as omnipotent. The NT teaches that God loves the world/humanity, and whoever believes in Jesus will be saved.

In Acts 16:30-31 Paul says that GRFS is belief in the Lord Jesus, and Phil. 2:11 says that everyone should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Rom. 3:22-25 says that all have sinned and all are justified through faith in Christ's atonement. Rom. 5:9-11 says the same using the term reconciled. 1Cor. 15:14-19 says that faith is futile unless Christ is risen.

Next?
 
Yes it does.

1 Corinthians 2:14​

14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

We were ALL the natural man before God saved us. You were a natural man, spiritually dead, before God drew you to Christ, and quickened your faith He gave you to believe the Gospel.

Here is the passage that says you were just like all the other natural men:

Ephesians 2​

By Grace Through Faith​

2 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, 2 in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, 3 among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.
My Bible teacher taught me a principle of sound exegesis that has stayed with me: just because a theological idea is true and biblical doesn’t mean that it is being taught here in the passage you’re studying. When someone interprets “dead” in Ephesians 2 by importing Paul’s teaching about the natural man from 1 Corinthians 2:14, they may be affirming something that is biblically correct—but that doesn’t guarantee they’re interpreting Ephesians correctly. Each passage has its own argument, context, and purpose, and responsible exegesis requires us to let the author speak on his own terms before bringing in other texts. In other words, we must first understand what Ephesians 2 is saying in its own context, and only then consider how it harmonizes with Paul’s teaching elsewhere.
 
The expression "natural man" comes almost entirely from one passage written by Paul. Jesus never used this expression, nor do the original twelve disciples in their teachings.

The phrase appears in 1 Corinthians 2:14. Now the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him; and he cannot know them, because they are spiritually judged. (1 Corinthians 2:14 ASV)

The Greek word translated "natural" is psychikos (ψυχικός). It comes from the word psyche, meaning "soul" or "natural life." It describes a person who lives according to ordinary human nature instead of being led by God's Spirit. The word itself does not mean that a person is incapable of choosing God or responding to Him. Those ideas come from later theological interpretations rather than from the word itself.

The same Greek word appears in the letter of Jude. These are they who make separations, sensual, having not the Spirit. (Jude 19 ASV) Here, "sensual" is the same Greek word, psychikos. Many modern translations render it as "worldly," "natural," or "unspiritual." In both places, the emphasis is on a person's present way of living, not on an unchangeable condition.

Jesus never described people as "natural men." Instead, He used simple language that everyone could understand. He spoke of those who hear His words and obey them, and those who hear His words and refuse to obey. He spoke of good trees and bad trees, sheep and goats, wise builders and foolish builders, and those who love light and those who love darkness. His teaching always places the responsibility on the person's response to God's call.

Jesus invited everyone to come to Him. Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.(Matthew 11:28 ASV) He also said, If any man willeth to do his will, he shall know of the teaching, whether it is of God. (John 7:17 ASV) Notice that Jesus says, "If anyone is willing." He appeals to the person's willingness to follow God's will.

When speaking to those who rejected Him, Jesus did not say they were unable to come because they were "natural men." Instead, He said, And ye will not come to me, that ye may have life. (John 5:40 ASV) The problem was not that they lacked the ability to respond, but that they refused to do so. Throughout the Gospels, Jesus continually calls people to repent, believe, follow Him, keep His commandments, and remain in His word. These commands assume that people are responsible for how they respond to God's invitation.

The expression "natural man" became much more prominent many centuries later through theological systems that developed after the New Testament was written. During the Protestant Reformation, theologians such as John Calvin built doctrines around this passage, teaching that fallen man is spiritually unable to respond to God unless God first regenerates him. However, this conclusion goes beyond what the expression itself says. The verse states that the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit because they are spiritually discerned, but it does not explicitly teach that a person is incapable of responding to God's call or of turning to Christ. This is all from Man and not God.

If we allow Jesus' own words to be our primary guide as it should always be, then the expression "natural man" should not become the foundation for understanding salvation. Jesus consistently presents God as calling people, inviting them, warning them, pleading with them, and holding them accountable for their response. He said, For many are called, but few chosen.(Matthew 22:14 ASV) The call is broad, but only those who answer it in faith and obedience become the chosen. Jesus' teaching is centered on God's invitation and man's responsibility to respond. Rather than dividing humanity into fixed categories, He continually urges every person to hear His voice, repent, believe, obey His words, and enter into life.

I have shown verses that clearly express that God does gives us a choice, it is written.

Amen!
It is the natural man who ascribes/projects hatred and injustice onto God.
 
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My Bible teacher taught me a principle of sound exegesis that has stayed with me: just because a theological idea is true and biblical doesn’t mean that it is being taught here in the passage you’re studying. When someone interprets “dead” in Ephesians 2 by importing Paul’s teaching about the natural man from 1 Corinthians 2:14, they may be affirming something that is biblically correct—but that doesn’t guarantee they’re interpreting Ephesians correctly. Each passage has its own argument, context, and purpose, and responsible exegesis requires us to let the author speak on his own terms before bringing in other texts. In other words, we must first understand what Ephesians 2 is saying in its own context, and only then consider how it harmonizes with Paul’s teaching elsewhere.

Yes, all passages will jibe/harmonize when correctly interpreted.
 
The penalty of sin is separation/dead correct?
When someone says “the penalty of sin is separation/dead,” they’re trying to make *dead* function as a synonym for *separated*, and then use that definition to support the Calvinist idea of inability. But Scripture doesn’t speak of sinners as *unable* to believe—it speaks of them as unwilling to believe. The problem is not incapacity but hardness of heart. That’s why the Bible consistently uses transformation language: a heart of stone must become a heart of flesh, the stubborn must be softened, the rebellious must be turned. These images describe moral resistance, not metaphysical inability. So while sin does alienate us from God, “dead” in passages like Ephesians 2 highlights the seriousness of our condition—not the removal of our responsibility. The call to believe the gospel is meaningful precisely because the issue is our unwillingness, not an inability that would make faith impossible.
 
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and the only part of it that is heretical/contrary to the Gospel is tulip,
because it views God as hateful and unjust/showing favoritism.
Tulip magnifies the Glory of God, Unconditional Election is Gods Glory, Moses once asked of the Lord God show me thy Glory Ex 33:18-19

18 And he[Moses] said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory.

19 And he[God] said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy.
Paul was inspired to write this in when writing the Romans about the purpose of election, how God chose one over the other even before they were born to have done any good or evil Rom 9:11-16


11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth)

12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.

13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.

15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

So Sovereign Election, Unconditional, s a Manifestation of Gods Glory, so despise it and scoff it you want !
 
But Scripture doesn’t speak of sinners as *unable* to believe—it speaks of them as unwilling to believe
Jn 12:39

39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,

Jn 6:44

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
 
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