You must of been to Bible college to use a word like soteriology lolSo then if our soteriology is wrong our view of God, logically, is also wrong.
You must of been to Bible college to use a word like soteriology lolSo then if our soteriology is wrong our view of God, logically, is also wrong.
Yes God favors some over others, because He so wills it that way.You either did not see or else ignored my correction, which was that I misspoke.
What I should have said is that God loves tulipists but hates their sin of demeaning His love and justness.
Choosing to love/elect only some sinners is called showing favoritism and being unjust, which contradicts those two aspects of the Gospel and is thus heretical. Do you treat your children that way?
You must of been to Bible college to use a word like soteriology lol
I am never going to play scrabble with you lolYou must of been to Bible college to use a word like soteriology lol
To be truthful I think Bible college is a bad thing - especially ones run by Tiny TimNo cannot say I have, I learned a long while back because of this false doctrine of TULIP.
It is a pain to type out though!!
God does favour or choose some, like Israel to be his people in the OT, choosing his disciples, choosing Jacob over Esau etc. But when it comes to Salvation - Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.Yes God favors some over others, because He so wills it that way.
Don't you see it in context? What does the idea of "heaven" communicate to you? Jesus taught his disciples to store up their treasures in heaven, and he explains why.It is not in that verse, you are making a connection... and no I do not see in context either.
Maybe "dead in transgressions" is about how that "position" (opposite to being alive inChrist) affected life here on earth.
You Arminians have a flower to represent you just like the Calvinists. The Calvinists is the TULIP.
You guys have the DAISY.
You pick the petals and say “ today God loves me, tomorrow He loves me not “
God does favour or choose some, like Israel to be his people in the OT, choosing his disciples, choosing Jacob over Esau etc. But when it comes to Salvation - Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Is God impartial and just?Yes God favors some over others, because He so wills it that way.
Yes God favors some over others, because He so wills it that way.
I was just trying to point out that because he choose some to fulfil His purpose doesn't mean God had a master list of the saved before creation - it takes an astronomical jump to come to that conclusionGod chose Jacob/Israel for the purpose of blessing all people with the possibility of salvation via Messiah's atonement.
I was just trying to point out that because he choose some to fulfil His purpose doesn't mean God had a master list of the saved before creation - it takes an astronomical jump to come to that conclusion
*"You are confusing ethnic equality with universal entitlement. Galatians 3:28 proves that God does not restrict His salvation to the Jewish nation—He draws His elect from every tribe, tongue, and social status.God does favour or choose some, like Israel to be his people in the OT, choosing his disciples, choosing Jacob over Esau etc. But when it comes to Salvation - Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
I tried to show you that in my view, "spiritually dead" doesn't refer to inability; it refers to unwillingness. Unbelief is not a matter of the intellect; it's a matter of the will. People don't believe because they don't want to believe.You do realize we were speaking about spiritual death really meaning being dead spiritually, don't you? Your description perfectly proves my point. You stated that prior to rebirth, there is 'only spiritual deadness' and the person 'simply could not perceive' spiritual reality. If there is only deadness - a total inability to perceive or desire God because of that death - then the person is fully and completely dead. They cannot operate a faith they do not possess nor are unaware of, nor can they assist in a rebirth they cannot even perceive is necessary, and which demands they be given spiritual life to comprehend. You have described total and complete spiritual inability, the cause of which inability, is spiritual death, which you, yourself, described.
Bottom line: to be alive in Christ is to have the promise of eternal life. To be dead in transgressions is to not have that promise.
Lets look at the first one Ephesians 1:5*"You are confusing ethnic equality with universal entitlement. Galatians 3:28 proves that God does not restrict His salvation to the Jewish nation—He draws His elect from every tribe, tongue, and social status.
When it comes to salvation, God absolutely favors some over others (Romans 9:15). Yet, He is not a respecter of persons, because the criteria for His choice is found solely in His own sovereign will, not in the creature. If God chose people because they possessed a 'better free-will choice' than their neighbor, that would make God a partial respecter of human merit. But because we are all equally dead rebels (Romans 3:9–19), election is a matter of pure, discriminating grace. God favors the elect simply because it pleased Him to do so (Ephesians 1:5)." AI assisted
Yes. His Saving FavorsIs God impartial and just?
Is God impartial and just?
Romans 2:11-12
For there is no partiality with God. For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law.
Acts 10:34-35
Then Peter opened his mouth and said: 'In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.
James 2:1
My brothers, show no partiality as you hold the faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory.
Matthew 5
44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
You are substituting the biblical definition of 'impartiality' with a humanistic definition of 'universal entitlement.'Is God impartial and just?
Romans 2:11-12
For there is no partiality with God. For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law.
Acts 10:34-35
Then Peter opened his mouth and said: 'In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.
James 2:1
My brothers, show no partiality as you hold the faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory.
Matthew 5
44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.