Rely on God's strength? I don't think so...

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Brandon777

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This is a way out for you. You can cast these demons out of yourself in the way I mentioned. You can ask a friend to pray with you or find a church that believes in deliverance, that would even be better. They are somewhat rare though, depending where exactly you live...
I tried casting the demons out myself dozens of times. That doesn't work. I tried casting them out with friends praying for it to come out 3 or so times. And I had a missionary pray for me who taught at a Bible college. That made it worse. I tried a pastor praying for me 3 times and that didn't work. So I still think I'm right on this one.
 
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Warrior777

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I tried casting the demons out myself dozens of times. That doesn't work. I tried casting them out with friends praying for it to come out 3 or so times. And I had a missionary pray for me who taught at a Bible college. That made it worse. I tried a pastor praying for me 3 times and that didn't work. So I still think I'm right on this one.
If you truly repented an renounced this, something has to come out, they have to obey, you just have to know how, you have to keep at it. They don't always jump out at the first syllable you speak, often it's a fight. This is not a one or couple of time occurrence by the way, there are other strongholds to deal with that are like a net in the spiritual realm linked together, one can feed off the other. Then like I said there might be legal rights also that are not renounced yet, things that you still hang on and stuff that still hangs on you, like any generational curses. God also looks at your heart, if you really serious about what you repent of, one might fool themselves but you cannot fool God!
Fasting and praying is also vital at times. Some demons only come out after fasting and especially with any sexual lust, immorality, etc. it helps you to gain strength in your spirit and soul and subdues your body.

This is a huge subject, I cannot get into this here in all details, I would have to sit down with you for a while and ask specific questions, to get to the main scheme and the just of it.
I know first hand this works from thousands of cases of people that got set free and myself personally also and you are not an exception to this. But you have to keep working at it, you can't give up. It's like when Daniel prayed and fasted for 21 days until he felt a breakthrough, then the angel came and told him why he was delayed even though the answer was on the way the first day! Daniel's prayer prevailed, if he had given up, the answer would not have come.
But it's your choice. The method that you are saying you are right about, how is that working for ya so far? You cannot outlast a demon by just your willpower, if it is a driving force behind you on the inside. It might seem to work for a while because they go down in hiding and let off, just to return at their opportune time.They just wear you down until they are cast out!
 

leelee

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I don't think you really want to stop, and I think you are lacking in faith. When you decide you definitely don't want to do these things then put your faith in God but don't expect him to just do it for you. You have to use willpower too. He doesn't want us to coast through life. There are challenges. Everyone has them, in the end they will make you a stronger and better person when they are overcome.
(edit) btw I am not having a go I just think the way you are justifying what everyone says and casting the blame away from you shows you don't really want to overcome.
 
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Brandon777

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If you truly repented an renounced this, something has to come out, they have to obey, you just have to know how, you have to keep at it. They don't always jump out at the first syllable you speak, often it's a fight. This is not a one or couple of time occurrence by the way, there are other strongholds to deal with that are like a net in the spiritual realm linked together, one can feed off the other. Then like I said there might be legal rights also that are not renounced yet, things that you still hang on and stuff that still hangs on you, like any generational curses. God also looks at your heart, if you really serious about what you repent of, one might fool themselves but you cannot fool God!
Fasting and praying is also vital at times. Some demons only come out after fasting and especially with any sexual lust, immorality, etc. it helps you to gain strength in your spirit and soul and subdues your body.

This is a huge subject, I cannot get into this here in all details, I would have to sit down with you for a while and ask specific questions, to get to the main scheme and the just of it.
I know first hand this works from thousands of cases of people that got set free and myself personally also and you are not an exception to this. But you have to keep working at it, you can't give up. It's like when Daniel prayed and fasted for 21 days until he felt a breakthrough, then the angel came and told him why he was delayed even though the answer was on the way the first day! Daniel's prayer prevailed, if he had given up, the answer would not have come.
But it's your choice. The method that you are saying you are right about, how is that working for ya so far? You cannot outlast a demon by just your willpower, if it is a driving force behind you on the inside. It might seem to work for a while because they go down in hiding and let off, just to return at their opportune time.They just wear you down until they are cast out!
I hope you understand that I understand you're trying to help, but... you might lead me in the wrong direction. I did truly repent and nothing came out because nothing has to come out. They don't have to obey us. We are not entitled to that! Remember in Acts where the demon jumped out and attacked people who used the name of Jesus to try and cast them out? There are no generational curses with my family. My entire extended family is saved! Oh, I can't fool God... hmm sounds like you might be understanding my heart better than me! 1 Corinthians 2:11 "For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God." And again 1 Samuel 16:7 "The LORD does not look at the things man looks at. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart." I should mention that I've fasted for three days on two occations without food and on three occasions one day without food or water praying for my deliverance. I believe that some people get delivered, but not always the same way. I believe I have to go to a deliverance team because I specifically gave the demon permission over my body. That's how it started. I know I need to cast him out. That's what I've been trying to do. Please don't heckle me. God bless.


I don't think you really want to stop, and I think you are lacking in faith. When you decide you definitely don't want to do these things then put your faith in God but don't expect him to just do it for you. You have to use willpower too. He doesn't want us to coast through life. There are challenges. Everyone has them, in the end they will make you a stronger and better person when they are overcome.
(edit) btw I am not having a go I just think the way you are justifying what everyone says and casting the blame away from you shows you don't really want to overcome.
1 Corinthians 2:11 "For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God." You don't know how much I've tried. You don't know how much faith I have. You don't know if I've used willpower. You don't know if I really want to overcome. You are judging a man's heart which the Bible speaks also in (1 Samuel 16:7) is only possible for that man and God. It's in the New and Old Testament. Please learn so that you don't make this mistake again. God Bless.
 
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leelee

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1 Corinthians 2:11 "For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God." You don't know how much I've tried. You don't know how much faith I have. You don't know if I've used willpower. You don't know if I really want to overcome. You are judging a man's heart which the Bible speaks also in (1 Samuel 16:7) is only possible for that man and God. It's in the New and Old Testament. Please learn so that you don't make this mistake again. God Bless.
They what do you want from this discussion? What was the point in posting. You literally throw everything back in peoples places so perhaps you need to learn that people will stop wanting to help and you don't seem to think God can manage hence the title.
 
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Warrior777

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I hope you understand that I understand you're trying to help, but... you might lead me in the wrong direction. I did truly repent and nothing came out because nothing has to come out. They don't have to obey us. We are not entitled to that! Remember in Acts where the demon jumped out and attacked people who used the name of Jesus to try and cast them out? There are no generational curses with my family. My entire extended family is saved! Oh, I can't fool God... hmm sounds like you might be understanding my heart better than me! 1 Corinthians 2:11 "For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God." And again 1 Samuel 16:7 "The LORD does not look at the things man looks at. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart." I should mention that I've fasted for three days on two occations without food and on three occasions one day without food or water praying for my deliverance. I believe that some people get delivered, but not always the same way. I believe I have to go to a deliverance team because I specifically gave the demon permission over my body. That's how it started. I know I need to cast him out. That's what I've been trying to do. Please don't heckle me. God bless.




1 Corinthians 2:11 "For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God." You don't know how much I've tried. You don't know how much faith I have. You don't know if I've used willpower. You don't know if I really want to overcome. You are judging a man's heart which the Bible speaks also in (1 Samuel 16:7) is only possible for that man and God. It's in the New and Old Testament. Please learn so that you don't make this mistake again. God Bless.

Well, I am agreeing with what leelee just said, if you are here just to proof God wrong then good "luck" with that, since that's what you need then. I am not judging you, that doesn't even make sense, since I don't know you, haven't really talked with you in detail and then what would it help to JUDGE you???!!! I am judging from the things that you are saying and making an effort to help you, to give you an idea what it could be and what you can do to overcome, because I KNOW, that these things work and again NO YOU ARE NOT AN EXCEPTION TO THESE!!! So don't go there!
But since you know everything better, like I said then do it the way you have been, if that works so well for you!

You speak in confusing terms, first you say that demons don't have to obey us, we are not entitled to that!??? then you said you need to go to a deliverance team, so what good would that do, if you believe your first statement. Also a good deliverance team would tell you about the same things and ask you abut the same questions as I did, just that they have more time to get into this, you being right there with them...
Then you say your family has no generational curses, because they are saved - One thing has nothing to do with the other! You are saved also and have a demon, as you even admit yourself, right?
Your first statement is a misunderstanding of the scripture on your part, you have not connected that with all the scriptures where Jesus gives us authority over these evil spirits. They were not able to cast out the demons, because they did not have a personal relationship with Jesus nor His authority in this case. That's why they said "in the name of Jesus whom Paul preaches..." not out of their own authority but that of Paul's!

You should have said in the beginning that you don't want anybody to give you any advice and that you know best of what to do in your case, then I did not have to waste my time to "heckle" you when I tried to help you with what helped thousands all over the world!
 
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AnandaHya

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I specifically gave the demon permission over my body. That's how it started. I know I need to cast him out. That's what I've been trying to do. Please don't heckle me. God bless.
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did you do this when you were eight at the same time you were exposed to porn?

Obviously someone in your life is not Christian if they allowed you access to porn.

If you are truly saved and have a personal relationship with JESUS and have the HOLY SPIRIT that allows you to cry out Abba, Father then demons can not touch you. Resist the devil and he will flee.

Do you truly have faith in Jesus? In the promise of God's salvation and ability to save? do you pray?

I would not go to a deliverance team, if they fail they will just blame you and do more harm then good. You don't need fake spiritual warfare. you need JESUS and HIS healing.

If you have faith that Jesus died for the remission of your sins and has washed you clean you don't need to cast out demons because they can NOT live where the Holy Spirit dwells.

they might have left strongholds to torture you and cause you sorrow and restlessness. there might be some habits and thoughts you need to take captive into the obedience of Christ.

You have to pray and expose the lies they have convinced you that are true. One is that they have any rights to you. You NEVER belonged to them. you belong to God and they tried and steal you away and enslave you.

For example if a kidnapper lured a child into the car with some candy and then abused them, but eventually the child was found and blamed themselves for falling for the candy lure, what would you tell them?

Compassion and mercy should begin with yourself. with the realization that Jesus loves you even when you were a sinner He died on the cross for your sins and has Risen. Our Lord is alive.

Do you believe this? Do you believe in your heart God's love and mercy is for YOU?

I'll keep you in my prayers.

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