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Okay clearly I am way out of my depth here... but could someone please give me some understanding without being biased please? I hate readin stuff like this because it plays on my mind 
Proverbs 22:28 Remove not the old landmarks, which thy fathers placed.
Nowadays men have become more biased then ever. We must look to our Fathers of the Christian Faith to show us the true path.
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Much Appreciated!! Sometimes I just get so caught up in these complicated and crazy arguments!!
Here is a link to all their books: Early Church Fathers | Christian Classics Ethereal Library
Read the first one:
The Apostolic Fathers with Justin Martyr and Irenaeus
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Jimmydiggs, So, I'm just "a propaganda machine". Dear Jimmy, that's just an ad hominem error: you logic is false (faulty). You criticize me, instead of looking at what I say, to see whether or not it's true. And your hidden premise is private interpretation of Scripture according to some man-made tradition. Scott/ Erie
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Dear NiceneChristian, What you are trying to say when you say the EOC does not trust in the Bible as a book written by men, you mean the Bible in private hands. The EOC, as I've been taught, does believe the Bible. It doesn't believe IN the Bible, but the EOC DOES BELIEVE the BIBLE, does believe what the Bible SAYS, what it MEANS to say. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington
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I don't think you are just a propoganda machine. I do wonder if you or Nicene have any other strings on them ther' banjos.
It's not a logical error, as I was not using it to discredit what you say.
Hey, let's not ignore ourselves there big boy.
On the other side, have you forgotten about that Filioque thread so quickly? I'd be much more apt to read your propoganda if you could make it more readable. I've commented on that before.
I don't believe in "Private" interpretation. I don't even like the word interpretation. It's not subjective art. I don't think Sola Scriptura is anything I've ever hidden though.
It's not a logical error, as I was not using it to discredit what you say.
Hey, let's not ignore ourselves there big boy.
On the other side, have you forgotten about that Filioque thread so quickly? I'd be much more apt to read your propoganda if you could make it more readable. I've commented on that before.
I don't believe in "Private" interpretation. I don't even like the word interpretation. It's not subjective art. I don't think Sola Scriptura is anything I've ever hidden though.
I meant that we believe in the sacredness of the Holy Scriptures but we don't idolize them by believing ONLY in them. We believe in the Church which assembled the books by the Holy Spirit because it is the Trinity - Father, Son and Holy Spirit who is to be worshiped, not a book or men who wrote a book. Protestants, by limiting themselves to a book, worship the Bible unawares and the authors of the book because they believe that it is the ONLY thing which the Holy Spirit spoke to us from. When we are limited to the Bible Alone, we are, consciously or unconsciously, making divine service to that book and its authors.
They give divine honors to the Bible because they think that only IT is inspired by God out of everything and everyone in Christendom, thinking that nothing or no one else in history can be divinely inspired; not the Church or the Saints of the Church. It is making the Holy Spirit dead by limiting divine authority to a book and a book alone, and when you do this, you worship not the Holy Spirit but the book itself.
They give divine honors to the Bible because they think that only IT is inspired by God out of everything and everyone in Christendom, thinking that nothing or no one else in history can be divinely inspired; not the Church or the Saints of the Church. It is making the Holy Spirit dead by limiting divine authority to a book and a book alone, and when you do this, you worship not the Holy Spirit but the book itself.
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[quote=Katy-follower;578850]Do you realize you're worshiping a different Christ
from the one in the bible? Christ in the bible is angry at all things that go against his
word. Your EO church studies false doctrines of man...
Dear Katy. The EO church is not "mine". She's God's. She is the Bride
of Christ, the Body of Christ, the temple of the Holy Spirit Who
proceedeth from the Father. In Erie Scott
living in the flesh and not the Spirit. The
teachings of your church go against God.
Dear Katy The church belongs to Christ, not to me, so it is not "my
church". There is no "my church" versus "your church". There is only
one Church (see Ephesians chapter 4 please).
Anyway, do the teachings of the EO Church go against God. No! Not at
all! Do you, Katy, really even know what the Eastern Orthodox Church
really teaches? If you can read in actual Church writings, you can find
out. Study yourself to show yourself as one approved unto God, a
workman (worker) who needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing
[discerning] the word of truth. (cf. NT).
Here is the Orthodox Faith. Nothing in any other teaching of the OC in
any way contradicts, takes away from, or adds anything that doesn't
need to be added to this basic statement of Faith, but no other
statement of faith is permitted in the Eastern Orthodox Church as the
Creed for all True Christians. Listen please to these words, and read
you Bible to see whether those things be (are) so!
"The Confession of the Orthodox Faith. Of the First
(Ecumenical) Council. (Nicea, 325 AD).
"Ibelieve in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth,
and of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Only-begotten Son of God, begotten
of the Father before all ages;
Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten, not made,
consubstantial with the Father, by Whom all things were made;
Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven, and
was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and of the Virgin Mary, and became
man;
He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered and was
buried, and arose on the third day, according to the scriptures;
And ascended into heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of the Father;
And He shall come again with glory to judge the living and the dead, of
Whose Kingdom there is no end.
Of the Second (Ecumenical) Council. (Constantinople, 381
AD):
And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord true and life-giving, Who proceedeth
from the Father, Who together with the Father and the Son is
worshipped and glorified; Who spake by the prophets.
And in One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
I confess one baptism for the remission of sins.
I wait for the resurrection of the dead,
And the life of the age to come. Amen."
OLD ORTHODOX PRAYER BOOK. First Edition. Copyright 1986,
Russian Orthodox Church of the Nativity of Christ (Old Rite). Erie, PA:
Russian Orthodox Church of the Nativity of Christ (Old Rite). Liberty,
TN: St. John of Kronstadt Press. Edited by Fr. Steven (Pimen) Simon,
and others.
God bless you. AMEN.
"A DIFFERENT "FEEL"
"Even apart from all the particular differences between Orthodoxy and
Roman Catholicism, I detected a different orientation in the two faiths.
The Orthodox experience of Christianity, while having many elements
in common with Catholicism, has a distinctive "feel", a way of thinking
and of doing things.
Perhaps most significantly, it becomes readily apparent to me that
Orthodoxy viewed theology less as an exercise in reason than as an
attempt to express an ineffable mystery. Theology in the Catholic West
seemed to be largely a matter of precise definition and syllogistic
deduction, highly philosophical and rationalistic in nature. In the
Orthodox East theology seemed to be largely a matter of doxology, of
bowing in reverent wonder before the ineffable; it was less concerned
with philosophical precision than with experiencing the
incomprehensible. This attitude finds expression in the unparalleled
beauty and majesty of Orthodox worship.
"It occurred to me that, if Christianity may be likened to a pool, the
Catholic West spent a great deal of time describing that pool and
analyzing the waters. The Orthodox East preferred just to dive in! I
did not detect the sort of "dryness" in Orthodox theology that I had in
the Scholasticism of the Catholic tradition. The more experiential
emphasis that Catholicism was attempting to restore to its theology in
the aftermath of Vatican II was already present in the theological
tradition of the Orthodox East. ..." (pages 18-19: ORTHODOXY AND
CATHOLICISM: What Are the Differences? by Father Theodore Pulcini.
Copyright 1995, Ben Lomond, CA: Conciliar Press.)
God save us all in Christ Jesus: AMEN AND AMEN. I
I turn to God in Christ and His Holy Spirit by facing East. Many turn to
God by facing heresies like Filioque, Papism, and Sola fideism and Sola
Scripturism. No thank you. I want to know the real Jesus! Wherever
on earth He leads me! Not where Martin Luther or the Popes of Rome
or any Protestant tradition tries to lead away from the Blessed Kingdom
of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit in the Orthodox
Church.
In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington
Did you know this?
I hope you will leave religion behind and turn to God because his wrath is on you if you refuse to trust in him and his word.
from the one in the bible? Christ in the bible is angry at all things that go against his
word. Your EO church studies false doctrines of man...
Dear Katy. The EO church is not "mine". She's God's. She is the Bride
of Christ, the Body of Christ, the temple of the Holy Spirit Who
proceedeth from the Father. In Erie Scott
living in the flesh and not the Spirit. The
teachings of your church go against God.
Dear Katy The church belongs to Christ, not to me, so it is not "my
church". There is no "my church" versus "your church". There is only
one Church (see Ephesians chapter 4 please).
Anyway, do the teachings of the EO Church go against God. No! Not at
all! Do you, Katy, really even know what the Eastern Orthodox Church
really teaches? If you can read in actual Church writings, you can find
out. Study yourself to show yourself as one approved unto God, a
workman (worker) who needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing
[discerning] the word of truth. (cf. NT).
Here is the Orthodox Faith. Nothing in any other teaching of the OC in
any way contradicts, takes away from, or adds anything that doesn't
need to be added to this basic statement of Faith, but no other
statement of faith is permitted in the Eastern Orthodox Church as the
Creed for all True Christians. Listen please to these words, and read
you Bible to see whether those things be (are) so!
"The Confession of the Orthodox Faith. Of the First
(Ecumenical) Council. (Nicea, 325 AD).
"Ibelieve in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth,
and of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Only-begotten Son of God, begotten
of the Father before all ages;
Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten, not made,
consubstantial with the Father, by Whom all things were made;
Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven, and
was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and of the Virgin Mary, and became
man;
He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered and was
buried, and arose on the third day, according to the scriptures;
And ascended into heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of the Father;
And He shall come again with glory to judge the living and the dead, of
Whose Kingdom there is no end.
Of the Second (Ecumenical) Council. (Constantinople, 381
AD):
And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord true and life-giving, Who proceedeth
from the Father, Who together with the Father and the Son is
worshipped and glorified; Who spake by the prophets.
And in One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
I confess one baptism for the remission of sins.
I wait for the resurrection of the dead,
And the life of the age to come. Amen."
OLD ORTHODOX PRAYER BOOK. First Edition. Copyright 1986,
Russian Orthodox Church of the Nativity of Christ (Old Rite). Erie, PA:
Russian Orthodox Church of the Nativity of Christ (Old Rite). Liberty,
TN: St. John of Kronstadt Press. Edited by Fr. Steven (Pimen) Simon,
and others.
God bless you. AMEN.
"A DIFFERENT "FEEL"
"Even apart from all the particular differences between Orthodoxy and
Roman Catholicism, I detected a different orientation in the two faiths.
The Orthodox experience of Christianity, while having many elements
in common with Catholicism, has a distinctive "feel", a way of thinking
and of doing things.
Perhaps most significantly, it becomes readily apparent to me that
Orthodoxy viewed theology less as an exercise in reason than as an
attempt to express an ineffable mystery. Theology in the Catholic West
seemed to be largely a matter of precise definition and syllogistic
deduction, highly philosophical and rationalistic in nature. In the
Orthodox East theology seemed to be largely a matter of doxology, of
bowing in reverent wonder before the ineffable; it was less concerned
with philosophical precision than with experiencing the
incomprehensible. This attitude finds expression in the unparalleled
beauty and majesty of Orthodox worship.
"It occurred to me that, if Christianity may be likened to a pool, the
Catholic West spent a great deal of time describing that pool and
analyzing the waters. The Orthodox East preferred just to dive in! I
did not detect the sort of "dryness" in Orthodox theology that I had in
the Scholasticism of the Catholic tradition. The more experiential
emphasis that Catholicism was attempting to restore to its theology in
the aftermath of Vatican II was already present in the theological
tradition of the Orthodox East. ..." (pages 18-19: ORTHODOXY AND
CATHOLICISM: What Are the Differences? by Father Theodore Pulcini.
Copyright 1995, Ben Lomond, CA: Conciliar Press.)
God save us all in Christ Jesus: AMEN AND AMEN. I
I turn to God in Christ and His Holy Spirit by facing East. Many turn to
God by facing heresies like Filioque, Papism, and Sola fideism and Sola
Scripturism. No thank you. I want to know the real Jesus! Wherever
on earth He leads me! Not where Martin Luther or the Popes of Rome
or any Protestant tradition tries to lead away from the Blessed Kingdom
of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit in the Orthodox
Church.
In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington
Did you know this?
I hope you will leave religion behind and turn to God because his wrath is on you if you refuse to trust in him and his word.
Yup.
Nimrod was the first earthly ruler (according to the bible) and he built Babylon and rebelled against God.
Mother & Son worship was introduced back then, with statues named Semiramis and Nimrod, Isis and Horus, etc, they had many other names in different countries.
Semiramis was known as the "Queen Of Heaven"
Roman Emperor Constantine merged Christianity with Paganism from Babylon and "gave birth" to the Catholic Church. They kept the mother-son adoration but just renamed it Mary & Jesus because it fit and they thought it would keep Christians happy.
So, the "Queen of heaven" adoration is just Babylon still working to this day.
Babylon in the past, present and future...
Nimrod was the first earthly ruler (according to the bible) and he built Babylon and rebelled against God.
Mother & Son worship was introduced back then, with statues named Semiramis and Nimrod, Isis and Horus, etc, they had many other names in different countries.
Semiramis was known as the "Queen Of Heaven"
Roman Emperor Constantine merged Christianity with Paganism from Babylon and "gave birth" to the Catholic Church. They kept the mother-son adoration but just renamed it Mary & Jesus because it fit and they thought it would keep Christians happy.
So, the "Queen of heaven" adoration is just Babylon still working to this day.
Babylon in the past, present and future...
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True Christianity is found in the true church but the true church is not found in Roman Catholics. This church does not follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and wants to lead everyone away from the Holy Scriptures which their Popes have proclaimed as divine truth because they contradict what their first Pope Peter and the other writers wrote. The Roman Catholic leadership does this to elevate themselves and their their false priesthood and to gain wordly power over their people. This is a contradiction to what Jesus Christ taught when he told us if we want to be first and if we want to be the greatest that we would have to be a servant and a slave. He told us never to call anyone earth "Father" in the book of Matthew and that is exactly what priests and the pope expect. They lead people to pray to Mary when we are taught that we go "directly to the throne of grace, to Jesus our high priest" as is taught in the Holy scriptures. They want people to go to them for everything and Mary to take away directly from what Jesus Christ expects us to do. This is a false cult and not the true church. If you are in the Roman Catholic church leave it immediately.
Hebrews 7:26-27: "For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who isholy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself"
Luke 22:19: "And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me"
Luke 22:19: "And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me"
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Yup.
Nimrod was the first earthly ruler (according to the bible) and he built Babylon and rebelled against God.
Mother & Son worship was introduced back then, with statues named Semiramis and Nimrod, Isis and Horus, etc, they had many other names in different countries.
Semiramis was known as the "Queen Of Heaven"
Roman Emperor Constantine merged Christianity with Paganism from Babylon and "gave birth" to the Catholic Church. They kept the mother-son adoration but just renamed it Mary & Jesus because it fit and they thought it would keep Christians happy.
So, the "Queen of heaven" adoration is just Babylon still working to this day.
Babylon in the past, present and future...
Nimrod was the first earthly ruler (according to the bible) and he built Babylon and rebelled against God.
Mother & Son worship was introduced back then, with statues named Semiramis and Nimrod, Isis and Horus, etc, they had many other names in different countries.
Semiramis was known as the "Queen Of Heaven"
Roman Emperor Constantine merged Christianity with Paganism from Babylon and "gave birth" to the Catholic Church. They kept the mother-son adoration but just renamed it Mary & Jesus because it fit and they thought it would keep Christians happy.
So, the "Queen of heaven" adoration is just Babylon still working to this day.
Babylon in the past, present and future...
God keep you from your error and cause you to change your mine. It is going against the commandment in the Scripture "All generations shall call me (the Virgin Mary) blessed". If you fail to call the Blessed Mother of God blessed, you sin against this biblical prophecy.
God save us!
S
If you are a Lutheran or other Protestant denomination, leave it immediately, because all Protestant faiths come from Catholicism.
If you leave Catholicism, you must leave Protestantism, for they both teach the same basic premise: the individual, whether pope or individual Protestant or protestant Reformer, is above Scripture, for it is up to the private individual to say what the Scripture means. Thus Church councils are denied. And are not the final authority in the Church, and not the Church Father's consensus fidelium ... God save us!
If you leave Catholicism, you must leave Protestantism, for they both teach the same basic premise: the individual, whether pope or individual Protestant or protestant Reformer, is above Scripture, for it is up to the private individual to say what the Scripture means. Thus Church councils are denied. And are not the final authority in the Church, and not the Church Father's consensus fidelium ... God save us!
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Okay clearly I am way out of my depth here... but could someone please give me some understanding without being biased please? I hate readin stuff like this because it plays on my mind
rather those beliefs line up with God's or not is the most important thing.
The "Queen of Heaven" God pronounced severe judgment on the people of Judah and Jerusalem because they worshiped "the queen of heaven" (Jer7:17-20; 44:15-19). Who or what was the queen of heaven, and how did the people of Israel get involved in worship of her?
As early as the twenty-fifth century B.C., people of Ur of the Chaldees in Sumeria worshiped a mother-goddess named Ishtar. Around the same time the Minoans of Crete had a mother-goddess portrayed with "her divine child Velchanos" in her arms. Later, the people of Cyprus revered a goddess who appears to have been patterned after the Sumerian Ishtar and later adopted by the Greeks as Aphrodite, or Astarte.
The Babylonians, who conquered Sumeria around the twenty-second century B.C., related their religious beliefs to the heavenly bodies. They regarded the planets as gods and goddesses and equated the planet Venus with the Sumerian mother-goddess Ishtar.
The Babylonians worshiped Ishtar as "The Virgin", "The Holy Virgin," "The Virgin Mother," "Goddess of Goddesses," and "Queen of Heaven and Earth." They exclaimed, "Ishtar is Great! Ishtar is Queen! My Lady is exalted, my Lady is Queen...There is none like unto her."
They called her "Shining light of heaven, light of the world, enlightener of all the places where men dwell, who gatherest together the hosts of the nations"; and they claimed, "Where thou glancest, the dead come to life, and the sick rise and walk; the mind of the diseased is healed when it looks upon thy face."
In Babylonian mythology Ishtar wore a crown and was related to Tammuz, who sometimes was portrayed as her son and other times as her lover.
It appears that the Sumerian-Babylonian Ishtar was the counterpart of the Egyptian Isis and the model for the Grecian Aphrodite, Roman Venus, Assyrian Nina, Phrygian and Roman Cybele, Phoenician Astarte, and Astarte of Syria. In essence they were the same mother-goddess.
The Egyptians called Isis "the Great Mother" and "the Mother of God." Isis worship spread to Italy by the second century and then throughout the entire Roman Empire. There the goddess was portrayed with her "divine child Horus" in her arms and widely acclaimed as "Queen of Heaven" and "Mother of God."
The people of Phoenicia worshiped Baal. Baalism included the worship of Molech with fiery sacrifices of children and the worship of Astarte, the Phoenician Ishtar Queen of Heaven.
When the Phoenician princess Jezebel became the wife of King Ahab of the northern Kingdom of Israel, she influenced him to fully establish Baal worship in his realm (1Ki16:29-33; 21:25-26) This move entangled the people of Israel in Queen-of-Heaven worship. As a result, God judged them with the Assyrian Captivity (2Ki17:5-7,16-18)
Athaliah, daughter of Ahab and Jezebel, became the wife of King Jehoram of the Kingdom of Judah. She influenced him to do what her father had done--fully establish Baal worship in his kingdom (2Ki8:16-18). Her son, Ahaziah, the next king of Judah, did the same (2Ki8:25-27), as did King Manasseh (2Ki21:1-6). These actions would have entangled the people of Judah in Queen-of-Heaven worship. Thus God judged them with the Babylonian Captivity (2Ki21;12-14)
VW: Queen of Heaven
This all correlates with witchcraft and child sacrifice and
the massacre of innocence..
Massacre of Innocence — The Champion
As early as the twenty-fifth century B.C., people of Ur of the Chaldees in Sumeria worshiped a mother-goddess named Ishtar. Around the same time the Minoans of Crete had a mother-goddess portrayed with "her divine child Velchanos" in her arms. Later, the people of Cyprus revered a goddess who appears to have been patterned after the Sumerian Ishtar and later adopted by the Greeks as Aphrodite, or Astarte.
The Babylonians, who conquered Sumeria around the twenty-second century B.C., related their religious beliefs to the heavenly bodies. They regarded the planets as gods and goddesses and equated the planet Venus with the Sumerian mother-goddess Ishtar.
The Babylonians worshiped Ishtar as "The Virgin", "The Holy Virgin," "The Virgin Mother," "Goddess of Goddesses," and "Queen of Heaven and Earth." They exclaimed, "Ishtar is Great! Ishtar is Queen! My Lady is exalted, my Lady is Queen...There is none like unto her."
They called her "Shining light of heaven, light of the world, enlightener of all the places where men dwell, who gatherest together the hosts of the nations"; and they claimed, "Where thou glancest, the dead come to life, and the sick rise and walk; the mind of the diseased is healed when it looks upon thy face."
In Babylonian mythology Ishtar wore a crown and was related to Tammuz, who sometimes was portrayed as her son and other times as her lover.
It appears that the Sumerian-Babylonian Ishtar was the counterpart of the Egyptian Isis and the model for the Grecian Aphrodite, Roman Venus, Assyrian Nina, Phrygian and Roman Cybele, Phoenician Astarte, and Astarte of Syria. In essence they were the same mother-goddess.
The Egyptians called Isis "the Great Mother" and "the Mother of God." Isis worship spread to Italy by the second century and then throughout the entire Roman Empire. There the goddess was portrayed with her "divine child Horus" in her arms and widely acclaimed as "Queen of Heaven" and "Mother of God."
The people of Phoenicia worshiped Baal. Baalism included the worship of Molech with fiery sacrifices of children and the worship of Astarte, the Phoenician Ishtar Queen of Heaven.
When the Phoenician princess Jezebel became the wife of King Ahab of the northern Kingdom of Israel, she influenced him to fully establish Baal worship in his realm (1Ki16:29-33; 21:25-26) This move entangled the people of Israel in Queen-of-Heaven worship. As a result, God judged them with the Assyrian Captivity (2Ki17:5-7,16-18)
Athaliah, daughter of Ahab and Jezebel, became the wife of King Jehoram of the Kingdom of Judah. She influenced him to do what her father had done--fully establish Baal worship in his kingdom (2Ki8:16-18). Her son, Ahaziah, the next king of Judah, did the same (2Ki8:25-27), as did King Manasseh (2Ki21:1-6). These actions would have entangled the people of Judah in Queen-of-Heaven worship. Thus God judged them with the Babylonian Captivity (2Ki21;12-14)
Jezebel, queen of Israel and priestess of Baal
VW: Queen of Heaven
This all correlates with witchcraft and child sacrifice and
the massacre of innocence..
Massacre of Innocence — The Champion
S
The "Queen of Heaven" God pronounced severe judgment on the people of Judah and Jerusalem because they worshiped "the queen of heaven" (Jer7:17-20; 44:15-19). Who or what was the queen of heaven, and how did the people of Israel get involved in worship of her?
As early as the twenty-fifth century B.C., people of Ur of the Chaldees in Sumeria worshiped a mother-goddess named Ishtar. Around the same time the Minoans of Crete had a mother-goddess portrayed with "her divine child Velchanos" in her arms. Later, the people of Cyprus revered a goddess who appears to have been patterned after the Sumerian Ishtar and later adopted by the Greeks as Aphrodite, or Astarte.
The Babylonians, who conquered Sumeria around the twenty-second century B.C., related their religious beliefs to the heavenly bodies. They regarded the planets as gods and goddesses and equated the planet Venus with the Sumerian mother-goddess Ishtar.
The Babylonians worshiped Ishtar as "The Virgin", "The Holy Virgin," "The Virgin Mother," "Goddess of Goddesses," and "Queen of Heaven and Earth." They exclaimed, "Ishtar is Great! Ishtar is Queen! My Lady is exalted, my Lady is Queen...There is none like unto her."
They called her "Shining light of heaven, light of the world, enlightener of all the places where men dwell, who gatherest together the hosts of the nations"; and they claimed, "Where thou glancest, the dead come to life, and the sick rise and walk; the mind of the diseased is healed when it looks upon thy face."
In Babylonian mythology Ishtar wore a crown and was related to Tammuz, who sometimes was portrayed as her son and other times as her lover.
It appears that the Sumerian-Babylonian Ishtar was the counterpart of the Egyptian Isis and the model for the Grecian Aphrodite, Roman Venus, Assyrian Nina, Phrygian and Roman Cybele, Phoenician Astarte, and Astarte of Syria. In essence they were the same mother-goddess.
The Egyptians called Isis "the Great Mother" and "the Mother of God." Isis worship spread to Italy by the second century and then throughout the entire Roman Empire. There the goddess was portrayed with her "divine child Horus" in her arms and widely acclaimed as "Queen of Heaven" and "Mother of God."
The people of Phoenicia worshiped Baal. Baalism included the worship of Molech with fiery sacrifices of children and the worship of Astarte, the Phoenician Ishtar Queen of Heaven.
When the Phoenician princess Jezebel became the wife of King Ahab of the northern Kingdom of Israel, she influenced him to fully establish Baal worship in his realm (1Ki16:29-33; 21:25-26) This move entangled the people of Israel in Queen-of-Heaven worship. As a result, God judged them with the Assyrian Captivity (2Ki17:5-7,16-18)
Athaliah, daughter of Ahab and Jezebel, became the wife of King Jehoram of the Kingdom of Judah. She influenced him to do what her father had done--fully establish Baal worship in his kingdom (2Ki8:16-18). Her son, Ahaziah, the next king of Judah, did the same (2Ki8:25-27), as did King Manasseh (2Ki21:1-6). These actions would have entangled the people of Judah in Queen-of-Heaven worship. Thus God judged them with the Babylonian Captivity (2Ki21;12-14)
VW: Queen of Heaven
This all correlates with witchcraft and child sacrifice and
the massacre of innocence..
Massacre of Innocence — The Champion
As early as the twenty-fifth century B.C., people of Ur of the Chaldees in Sumeria worshiped a mother-goddess named Ishtar. Around the same time the Minoans of Crete had a mother-goddess portrayed with "her divine child Velchanos" in her arms. Later, the people of Cyprus revered a goddess who appears to have been patterned after the Sumerian Ishtar and later adopted by the Greeks as Aphrodite, or Astarte.
The Babylonians, who conquered Sumeria around the twenty-second century B.C., related their religious beliefs to the heavenly bodies. They regarded the planets as gods and goddesses and equated the planet Venus with the Sumerian mother-goddess Ishtar.
The Babylonians worshiped Ishtar as "The Virgin", "The Holy Virgin," "The Virgin Mother," "Goddess of Goddesses," and "Queen of Heaven and Earth." They exclaimed, "Ishtar is Great! Ishtar is Queen! My Lady is exalted, my Lady is Queen...There is none like unto her."
They called her "Shining light of heaven, light of the world, enlightener of all the places where men dwell, who gatherest together the hosts of the nations"; and they claimed, "Where thou glancest, the dead come to life, and the sick rise and walk; the mind of the diseased is healed when it looks upon thy face."
In Babylonian mythology Ishtar wore a crown and was related to Tammuz, who sometimes was portrayed as her son and other times as her lover.
It appears that the Sumerian-Babylonian Ishtar was the counterpart of the Egyptian Isis and the model for the Grecian Aphrodite, Roman Venus, Assyrian Nina, Phrygian and Roman Cybele, Phoenician Astarte, and Astarte of Syria. In essence they were the same mother-goddess.
The Egyptians called Isis "the Great Mother" and "the Mother of God." Isis worship spread to Italy by the second century and then throughout the entire Roman Empire. There the goddess was portrayed with her "divine child Horus" in her arms and widely acclaimed as "Queen of Heaven" and "Mother of God."
The people of Phoenicia worshiped Baal. Baalism included the worship of Molech with fiery sacrifices of children and the worship of Astarte, the Phoenician Ishtar Queen of Heaven.
When the Phoenician princess Jezebel became the wife of King Ahab of the northern Kingdom of Israel, she influenced him to fully establish Baal worship in his realm (1Ki16:29-33; 21:25-26) This move entangled the people of Israel in Queen-of-Heaven worship. As a result, God judged them with the Assyrian Captivity (2Ki17:5-7,16-18)
Athaliah, daughter of Ahab and Jezebel, became the wife of King Jehoram of the Kingdom of Judah. She influenced him to do what her father had done--fully establish Baal worship in his kingdom (2Ki8:16-18). Her son, Ahaziah, the next king of Judah, did the same (2Ki8:25-27), as did King Manasseh (2Ki21:1-6). These actions would have entangled the people of Judah in Queen-of-Heaven worship. Thus God judged them with the Babylonian Captivity (2Ki21;12-14)
Jezebel, queen of Israel and priestess of Baal
VW: Queen of Heaven
This all correlates with witchcraft and child sacrifice and
the massacre of innocence..
Massacre of Innocence — The Champion
Dear Ada, Find one Scripture that says the
Virgin Mary is Jezebel.
Find one Scripture that says the queen
mentioned in Psalm 45:9 KJV is not the Virgin
Mary.
God bless you. In Erie Scott R. Harrington