Was Judas Iscariot saved, or was he not?

[Godsgood]

But I wasn't expressing concern over the salvation of others. I was asking you to substantiate your claim that Dino246 had ever said in any of his post that Jesus has a devil and is mad.

I don’t know if you understand this.
The Lord Jesus is the truth (John 14:6).
Whoever speaks against the truth is, in effect, speaking against the Lord Jesus as the truth.
The truths I share from the Word of God do not come from my own wisdom.
Therefore, when he once said that I was of the devil, it was also equivalent to saying that the truth or the Lord Jesus, who is the truth, was of the devil.

That is why those of us who know the one true God bear witness in this way to what the Lord said in Matthew 24:35, that His words will never pass away.

The Jews in those days said to the Lord that He was of the devil, and today, the same accusation, in essence, is being made against the truth.

 

[DavidLamb]

God is the One who knows what is in your heart.

He does, but how does that answer what I was asking you: to to substantiate your claim that Dino246 had ever said in any of his posts that Jesus has a devil and is mad. I certainly have never read any post from Dino246 where he has said anything like that. Instead of providing evidence for your claim, you keep changing the subject.

 

[DavidLamb]

I don’t know if you understand this.
The Lord Jesus is the truth (John 14:6).
Whoever speaks against the truth is, in effect, speaking against the Lord Jesus as the truth.
The truths I share from the Word of God do not come from my own wisdom.
Therefore, when he once said that I was of the devil, it was also equivalent to saying that the truth or the Lord Jesus, who is the truth, was of the devil.

That is why those of us who know the one true God bear witness in this way to what the Lord said in Matthew 24:35, that His words will never pass away.

The Jews in those days said to the Lord that He was of the devil, and today, the same accusation, in essence, is being made against the truth.

But that still doesn't provide the evidence to back up your claim that Dino246 said in his posts that Jesus has a devil and is mad. I am sure he didn't (and wouldn't), but you claimed he did.

 

[Dino246]

PSALMS 22:7-8
7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,
8 He trusted on the Lord that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.

When you teach error and refuse correction, scorn is generous.

 

[Dino246]

But that still doesn't provide the evidence to back up your claim that Dino246 said in his posts that Jesus has a devil and is mad. I am sure he didn't (and wouldn't), but you claimed he did.

He seems to be constitutionally incapable of supporting his assertions with relevant evidence.

 

[Lovette]

No.

 

[Godsgood]

But that still doesn't provide the evidence to back up your claim that Dino246 said in his posts that Jesus has a devil and is mad. I am sure he didn't (and wouldn't), but you claimed he did.

I was just taking a chance. But you still don’t understand.

 

[Godsgood]

But that still doesn't provide the evidence to back up your claim that Dino246 said in his posts that Jesus has a devil and is mad. I am sure he didn't (and wouldn't), but you claimed he did.

For God has exposed him to me.
If he truly believes that what he knows is the truth, then he should simply share the truth.
But it is clear that he waits for those who share their understanding only so that he can criticize and attack them, and then contradict what they say.

In the Holy Scriptures, God has also revealed someone whose manner was to oppose others.
GENESIS 2:17
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

GENESIS 3:4
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

 

[awelight]

Wow! Talk about a lot of conversations that are going nowhere. Everyone talking at each other - past each other - no one listening.

 

[LTL]

Wow! Talk about a lot of conversations that are going nowhere. Everyone talking at each other - past each other - no one listening.

Okay, A, how would you correct the conversation?

And here is something for David Lamb who is a great person. Turns out that Luke 2:4 tells us that Joseph was of the house of David.

4And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David.

He was of the line of the David Kings. I told you this before.

But with respect to Iscariot. He is a demonic fool who hated and still hates the Savior. He is in hell where he belongs and will remain with Lucifer forever.

 

[awelight]

Okay, A, how would you correct the conversation?

And here is something for David Lamb who is a great person. Turns out that Luke 2:4 tells us that Joseph was of the house of David.

4And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David.

He was of the line of the David Kings. I told you this before.

But with respect to Iscariot. He is a demonic fool who hated and still hates the Savior. He is in hell where he belongs and will remain with Lucifer forever.

The only way you can have a reasonable conversation - is for those involved to realize:

That the primary purpose of Biblical discussion is to learn from one another. Also, to apply gentle correction, if needed, in order to aid one to come to a more mature understanding.

These conversations should never be about who wins or loses the discussion. Rather, all parties should primarily be interested in glorifying God in all we do and write.

The one trend, that I see on ChristianChat way to often, are people not responding with their view of a Scripture text placed before them but rather, using a Verse from God's Holy Word against another Verse of His Word. This my friends, we should never be guilty of.

 

[DavidLamb]

For God has exposed him to me.
If he truly believes that what he knows is the truth, then he should simply share the truth.
But it is clear that he waits for those who share their understanding only so that he can criticize and attack them, and then contradict what they say.

In the Holy Scriptures, God has also revealed someone whose manner was to oppose others.
GENESIS 2:17
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

GENESIS 3:4
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

So you boldly go on making unsubstantiated allegations against other members here, and then claim that God has revealed it to you. However, claiming that somebody has written something in a post on this forum doesn't require God to reveal it to you. Youy just have to quote the post where he wrote what you claimed he wrote.

I am not sure that I understand your sentence: "In the Holy Scriptures, God has also revealed someone whose manner was to oppose others." Are you saying that Satan opposes God's people? If so, I agree, The Bible refers to him as "your adversary, the devil."

 

[DavidLamb]

The only way you can have a reasonable conversation - is for those involved to realize:

That the primary purpose of Biblical discussion is to learn from one another. Also, to apply gentle correction, if needed, in order to aid one to come to a more mature understanding.

These conversations should never be about who wins or loses the discussion. Rather, all parties should primarily be interested in glorifying God in all we do and write.

The one trend, that I see on ChristianChat way to often, are people not responding with their view of a Scripture text placed before them but rather, using a Verse from God's Holy Word against another Verse of His Word. This my friends, we should never be guilty of.

Yes I agree that we should be engaged in Biblical discussion. The trouble is, that some here seem to be claiming private revelations direct from God, and then using those "revelations" as the basis for accusing others here of false beliefs.

 

[LTL]

Yes I agree that we should be engaged in Biblical discussion. The trouble is, that some here seem to be claiming private revelations direct from God, and then using those "revelations" as the basis for accusing others here of false beliefs.

D, look at Luke 2:4.

 

[Dino246]

I was just taking a chance. But you still don’t understand.

He's not the one lacking understanding here. He asked you a question, and you have not answered it.

 

[Dino246]

D, look at Luke 2:4.

How is that verse relevant? I don't see any connection.

 

[Dino246]

The only way you can have a reasonable conversation - is for those involved to realize:

That the primary purpose of Biblical discussion is to learn from one another. Also, to apply gentle correction, if needed, in order to aid one to come to a more mature understanding.

These conversations should never be about who wins or loses the discussion. Rather, all parties should primarily be interested in glorifying God in all we do and write.

The one trend, that I see on ChristianChat way to often, are people not responding with their view of a Scripture text placed before them but rather, using a Verse from God's Holy Word against another Verse of His Word. This my friends, we should never be guilty of.

I agree with you in principle, but what you describe is not the issue here. Rather, the OP has consistently made assertions that contradict Scripture and personal accusations without relevant supporting evidence. There is no winning, losing, or learning, as he seems incapable of receiving correction despite his many errors.

 

[Dino246]

For God has exposed him to me.
If he truly believes that what he knows is the truth, then he should simply share the truth.

God hasn't "exposed" anything about me to you. Perhaps an unclean spirit has whispered in your ear, and you have absorbed it without hesitation.

I do simply share the truth, but you consistently reject it.

But it is clear that he waits for those who share their understanding only so that he can criticize and attack them, and then contradict what they say.

When your "understanding" contradicts Scripture (as it often does), pointing out your error is appropriate. It's unfortunate that you have a martyr complex and see any criticism as though it comes from the devil... but that's a "you" problem.

 

[DavidLamb]

D, look at Luke 2:4.

That verse is:

NKJV Luk 2:4 Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and lineage of David,

What connection does that verse have with what I wrote, about people claiming private revelations from God?

 

[LTL]

That verse is:

NKJV Luk 2:4 Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and lineage of David,

What connection does that verse have with what I wrote, about people claiming private revelations from God?

It proves that Jesus' linage through Joseph is of the house of David and he has legitimate and legal claim to the throne of David. It follows that his successor also has legitimate and legal claim to the throne of David. Jesus designated his successor to be his apostle John.