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Aaron56 said:
Consider also that Israel's status among Evangelicals - as irreproachable -
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No such thing. We agree they are the chosen people and that the church doesn't replace them.

Aaron56 said:
has prevented the message of salvation from being effective among the Arab gentiles and many other people-groups. I often wonder with what guilt the Lord will credit the church for causing such a stumbling block in the path of so many.
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It's the replacement theology crowd that cannot witness to the Jews " We replace you, God is done with you, you're the synagog of Satan and killed the Messiah and alllllllllllllllllll Jews are guilty of this forever". smh



Aaron56 said:
“If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea."
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Replacement theology has been the greatest instigator of Antisemitism and violence against Jews in history. Under the name and banner of Christ. Those will be the ones to answer for lack of salvation for trying to bar the Jews from heaven.
 
Churchgoer said:
Romans 11 is talking about for any jew that accept Jesus, such as Paul, Peter, yes, they are children of God.

Same rule applies to all humanity.

No one is special.
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Jesus clearly said to mark, nickodamius, they are all jews, no one sees father except through me. No one see the kingdom of God unless born again.

Not sure why people keep bring up ethnic thing.
 
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Churchgoer said:
Romans 11 is talking about for any jew that accept Jesus, such as Paul, Peter, yes, they are children of God.

Same rule applies to all humanity.

No one is special.
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They are still the chosen people. Yes, they get saved the same as we all do, for the billionth time, no one here has said any different.
 
ThereRoseaLamb said:
Right like I said "Yes, they get saved the same as we all do, for the billionth time, no one here has said any different."
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That's wonderful 👏 we agree.
If anyone of them die tonight, like the thieve on Jesus right side, he will enter paradise.
If he is on left side of Jesus, then he goes the opposite side.

We agree.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
They are still the chosen people. Yes, they get saved the same as we all do, for the billionth time, no one here has said any different.
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This is what God says

Romans 9​

6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
 
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Churchgoer said:
That's wonderful 👏 we agree.
If anyone of them die tonight, like the thieve on Jesus right side, he will enter paradise.
If he is on left side of Jesus, then he goes the opposite side.

We agree.
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The thief on left side of Jesus is not the chosen children of God.
 
dkontner said:
This is what God says

Romans 9​

6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
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Amen, amen, amen.
 
ThereRoseaLamb said:
No such thing. We agree they are the chosen people and that the church doesn't replace them.



It's the replacement theology crowd that cannot witness to the Jews " We replace you, God is done with you, you're the synagog of Satan and killed the Messiah and alllllllllllllllllll Jews are guilty of this forever". smh





Replacement theology has been the greatest instigator of Antisemitism and violence against Jews in history. Under the name and banner of Christ. Those will be the ones to answer for lack of salvation for trying to bar the Jews from heaven.
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Quite the opposite.

Their hearts need no coaxing to be hard nor their eyes to be more blind.

Jews kill others: Evangelicals "Well, they're God's chosen people. They probably had a good reason."
Jews kill others: Evangelicals "Well, everyone who against what the Jews do is against God."
Jews kill others: Evangelicals "They are allowed to kill enemies of God."
Jews kill others: Evangelicals "Arabs are God's enemies."
Jews kill others: Evangelicals "We actually DO wrestle against flesh and blood."
Jews kill others: Evangelicals "Christ's kingdom IS of this world. That is why we make war and agree with the Jews to make war."
 
Jesus is the vine, we are the branches.

Without Jesus the vine, what are they? Not belong to Jesus at all.
 
ThereRoseaLamb said:
They are still the chosen people.
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"But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel..."
Then Peter speaking to the Gentile believers: "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light."
 
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Some want to elevate the Israelites of old into the new covenant.Jesus died on the cross to fulfill the covenants and restore the Adam.
The Adam that had Jesus in them.

Genesis 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
JOHN 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

This air we breath comes in spirit,
You breath it in, and out comes life when testifying of the true word.

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

The breath that God blew into Adam was spirit,and they are life!
Jesus was in them,meaning that elevating the Israelites above gentiles based on ethnicity is antiChrist.

God blew his breath back into Adam at Pentecost.He went from bones, to having tendons and flesh appearing on him.
Jesus said his last words on the cross fulfilling this prophecy.Any other interpretation is antiChrist.

Look at the way Jesus says I'm the way,the truth,and the life.
I highlighted it in the proper colors.

"I'm the way" Isaiah prophesied "make straight the way of the Lord" And John the Baptist helped fulfill it.
"Make straight is the way of the Lord" means repent,or water.
"The truth" is the spirit of truth.
"The life" is the blood.

No man cometh to the father but by me!

By Spirit,water,blood.

Look,he says it in order and it creates an Ark of the Covenant
First witness on the left.
Second witness on the right.
The spirit testifies

How can have the living bones prophecy been fulfilled in 1948 when both Jews and gentiles cometh unto the father and received life before a carnal nation?

Church religion as blinded a lot of people into believing a state is God's true Israel. a antiChrist state is stealing blessings from God's chosen people.

They want to hold on so dearly to what their fathers thought them.
They don't want to come to the table and eat good food and drink.If they did then they would being food with them,and we'll all feast.
Some of them can't even eat this food.
The way Jesus says "I'm spirit,water,blood in John 14:6 is a good example of spiritual food. and how the verses testify of the valley of dry bones being fulfilled is also good food.
 
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Aaron56 said:
Quite the opposite.
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No, history is quite clear about that.


Aaron56 said:
Jews kill others: Evangelicals "Well, they're God's chosen people. They probably had a good reason."
Jews kill others: Evangelicals "Well, everyone who against what the Jews do is against God."
Jews kill others: Evangelicals "They are allowed to kill enemies of God."
Jews kill others: Evangelicals "Arabs are God's enemies."
Jews kill others: Evangelicals "We actually DO wrestle against flesh and blood."
Jews kill others: Evangelicals "Christ's kingdom IS of this world. That is why we make war and agree with the Jews to make war."
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Israel has a right to a homeland and to defend it against terrorists. Yes or no? How many people did the US liquefy at Hiroshima? No one came after the US for war crimes.
 
In america, there are a lot of Jewish people, they are entitled to their property, native American are not entitled to kick them out of their property.

This is general agreement.

Same goes for others? I assume?
 
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