Trump has too many corrupt politicians and judges standing in his way.
How has science impacted your perspective on the Hebrew Bible?
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Unfortunately, the Left Socialist, Communist party that was voted in is taking hold. They are making havoc everywhere they’ve been elected! People are wearing blinders like city walking horses. Horrible!
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I think too many to take down from the last admin. Besides, I don’t think he has the authority to do this.
Just saying. If he is hitler like the communists say he would have them arrested at the least.
Trump is more easy to be critical of, there is enough available for that, but it is not on topic for this thread. I cannot be as dismissive as I see enough others are. Science now is with methods using enough sophistication for many results being reliable, even if it not everything. I would not dismiss it for an understanding I have of Bible passages. Flat earthers do that. Maybe I can try being sure of what understandings would be sure from any passages addressed. There is nothing to dismiss anthropogenic climate change from them, while science is conclusive about it. About origins I am not as sure. God created all life, that is sure, and this universe is just right for life being possible on some worlds in it. I believe God put all life in this world, with light made available on it for all the life, thousands of years ago. The unformed planet that would be made into this earth would have already been around, how ever long it was makes no difference to the understanding of the creation of all the life on it. Specifics are hard for me to be sure of still. It is sure that God cares for all the life.
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Shame on you, you are ruining a good argument by bringing actual facts into it. Much better to present falsehoods in order to prove one's case. After all, scripture encourages people to bear false witness to justify one's actions doesn't it.
The Genesis account is one of the most scientific parts of the Bible.
Current scientific theory states that the universe began with a “bang”, when a singularity suddenly exploded/expanded, and that it will end with a “whimper” when the stars eventually fade to darkness. This unique universe theory is compatible or consistent with belief in a God who created the universe “ex nihilo”, who sustains it by His power, and who will judge its moral agents at the end of time.
Current knowledge of world history suggests that humanity descended from one genetic source and evolved into various cultures. Throughout history humanity has perceived deity to be the ground of meaning and morality. Theocentric history reached its apex or spiritual climax with the NT teaching that there is one almighty and all-loving God, who desires all humanity to live in harmony on earth and also in heaven, and who allows humanity to experience earthly existence including pain and disappointment for the purpose of teaching them their need for Him (cf. Heb. 12:10).
Current existential reality indicates that mortals need God in order to obtain immortality, that morality needs God for a universal moral imperative (UMI) and ultimate justice, and that the NT offers the best hope that this “duo of desirables” (DOD) or heaven and justice/hell can be attained. Just as physical needs are satisfied by material realities, perhaps our metaphysical needs indicate the reality of supernatural solutions (the God of the DOD).
Moral conscience indicates and logically requires accountability to a moral authority, and the supreme Authority would be God. Paul wrote (in Rom. 1:32 & 2:15) that people “know God’s decree that those who do evil deserve death” and that their consciences “show that the requirements of the [God’s moral] law are written on their hearts.” Our feeble attempts at earthly justice may reflect or serve as evidence of God’s perfect justice (1Cor. 13:9-12) using spiritual eyes/intuition/a sixth sense along with inference, logic, and even imagination.
This evidence is not proof, but because this hope and belief are based on evidence and logic, it is rational rather than “blind”, but the writers of Scripture were more concerned with ultimate reality and morality than with physical science, which did not become a topic of interest until Thales speculated about the basic element of matter (d. 476 B.C.).
Couple years ago when I first read about quantum physics, I was so amazed how it matches Bible.
We are created by God out of nothing, He just spoke, and we came into being.
We are particle and wave duality. Body and soul, physical and spiritual are very much connected. Holy spirit in us.
The more one read into true science, the more he believes in every word said in Bible.
Peter walked on water, Jesus appeared in a room suddenly. Space is a tent stretching... all amazed.
We are created by God out of nothing, He just spoke, and we came into being.
We are particle and wave duality. Body and soul, physical and spiritual are very much connected. Holy spirit in us.
The more one read into true science, the more he believes in every word said in Bible.
Peter walked on water, Jesus appeared in a room suddenly. Space is a tent stretching... all amazed.
God created a new earth in an adult state. Just like Adam was a day old but appeared as an adult.
Yes, but because before creation only God existed, nothing must refer to His invisible essence,
and everything must be created out of His Being (Acts 17:24-28).
God's speech must refer to His Word/Will.
God is the one create time. So I am think when we get to heaven, time is a dimension we can comprehend, it will be eternal because time is within our control maybe.
Just as in our current state, we can control distance from a to b. Walk from a to b in any way we want. In heaven, we can jump from time 1 to 2 freely, probably. I am just thinking it loud. So time never ends.
I wish I could commend you on your understanding of modern science, but unfortunately, I think you have relied far too much on Christian propaganda. Yes, the universe appears to have begun with the "Big Bang" but the idea is just a modern variation on an ancient belief. The universe arising from when a cosmic egg either hatched or was broken goes back at least 2500 years. But the "Big Band" is one of the "proofs of God".
Current history of existential reality from some Christian sources dates a common ancestor to all modern people in a homo sapiens, but modern science recognizes at least three homo species interbreeding and leaving genetic traces behind, and possibly a third, plus two, likely pre-homo species also. Any common ancestor would not have been a homo sapiens. As for monotheism being the spiritual climax, that is an opinion, and when monotheism developed as opposed to henotheism is unclear but appears to have occurred after the majority, if not all, of the NT was written.
Moral conscience is possibly, but not certainly, a result of genetics. It can be explained in games theory, but exactly how a games theory origin leads to its being passed down is unclear.
I might also note that you left out two other existent "proofs of God", the one referred to as "fine tuning", which recognizes just how precise various measurements within creation must be in order for life to even exist as well as the "Anselm-Godell" theory. The problem with all three is that either they can be fulfilled with a deistic or impersonal God, "Bid Bang" and "Fine Tuning" or as in Anselm-Godell, assume that God must be personal as one axion.
I am struggling on a knew "proof" based on science from the late 20th-early 21sr centuries,, and have formulated it, but I am not yet satisfied with how I address obvious challenges, some I saw before I started and a couple advanced by scientists who are aware of the research I based my "proof" on. I think they can be addressed, I just want to be satisfied, and have some knowledgeable others agree, that I have done a credible job.
Not sure why you disparage my knowledge of science in one sentence and then essentially agree with it in the paragraphs.
Here is what Google says:
Yes, genetic studies indicate that all modern humans share a single common ancestor through specific lineages, though not a single individual who lived alone. Geneticists trace human lineage back to Mitochondrial Eve (the most recent common maternal ancestor) and Y-chromosomal Adam (the most recent common paternal ancestor), alongside a broader ancestral population.
Mitochondrial Eve: By tracking mitochondrial DNA—which is passed exclusively from mothers to their children—scientists can trace all living humans back to a single female ancestor who lived in Africa roughly 100,000 to 150,000 years ago.
Y-Chromosomal Adam: By tracking the Y-chromosome—which is passed down from fathers to sons—researchers can trace all men back to a single male ancestor who lived roughly 120,000 to 160,000 years ago.
You might note that the reason I did not cite the deistic reasons is because they are deistic.
I suggest ceasing attempts to prove the NT God exists and be satisfied with good reasons aka rational faith.
Thanks for the comments as always. TTYL
I understand that perspective. If you will also notice that there are two creation stories in Genesis and their authors and editors adopting the Mesopotamian flood myths of 1,500 years earlier. The creation story in Genesis 2:4 plus says the earth was void when God began to create it into the world we know including creating humans before plants and other animals. There is nothing in Genesis that establishes the age of Adam or Eve. The problem with their story written sometime after 800 BC is that there are only two possibilities for the evil in the garden. Either God put evil in the garden or God had no power to keep evil from the garden. Which do you believe?
The claimed dating for ancestorial ancestors varies, you are presenting the estimates closest to the modern day. Other claims date back to at least 250,000 years ago if not further. It also ignores know lines that have died out since the time of Moses, if not Jesus.
You cited the Big Bang, and subsequent thermodynamic heat death, that is a deistic "proof", yet you cite it. What was your reason if you purposely avoided deistic proofs?
You question shy I seek to prove a theistic deity, have you never heard of the field of Christian Apologetics? It involves proving the truth of Christianity to non-believers. Now if some ideals of Christianity do not hold up to serious scrutiny, they need to be rejected in the pursuit of truth. Likewise, if one is seeking to reach non-believers, it is a false approach if the non-believers are first required to accept what are considered to be Christian truths. Rather the correct approach is to meet them where they are, with assumptions that they can agree with and then work back to Christianity.
Now admittedly this is difficult, but it is more appropriate to historic Christian apologetics. Justin Martyr cited sources widely known and ACCEPTED, thus meeting his audience where they were, not telling them to come to his understanding and that when they did, he could justify his conclusions.