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As a life long scientist (microbiology) and later computers scientist, I can clearly state that all valid scientists live in a world of humility.

New York state law requires kids to receive between 24 and 27 jabs to attend K through 12 schools, according to the DOH vaccine schedule.

An Amish schoolhouse is seen in Fort Plain, NY, on Tuesday, August 25, 2026. At least three Amish schools have been fined $118,000 from the New York State Department of Health for refusing to vaccinate their children, which would violate their religious beliefs.

Upstate Amish parents—who generally teach their children in small classes in one-room schoolhouses which receive no public money—have been in court since 2024 fighting Cuomo’s mandate.


Two years earlier the state began issuing $2,000 fines for non-compliance. Three schools listed as plaintiffs in the lawsuit—Shady Lane school in Clymer, NY; Pleasant View in Heuvelton, NY and Dygert Road School near Canajoharie—together have racked up $118,000 in fines.


Their attorneys tell The Post every Amish school in the state is in the same situation; the DOH refused to answer The Post’s questions about how many other schools had been fined.


How many and who supported Cuomo's removal of religious exemptions in the medical community? Or recommended the removal to Cuomo? GROK

The 2019 repeal of New York’s religious exemption to school vaccination requirements (signed by Gov. Andrew Cuomo on June 13 after a measles outbreak) was backed by a coordinated push from major medical and public-health organizations, not a handful of individual doctors.

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On May 6, 2019, representatives from 28 physician, nurse, and health-advocacy groups plus county health officials held a Capitol news conference urging lawmakers to allow only medical exemptions. The groups included the Medical Society of the State of New York (MSSNY, then led by Dr. Art Fougner), the New York State chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Nurses Association–New York, and the New York chapter of the American College of Physicians (Dr. Linda Effren spoke for ACP).

nypost.com
A joint legislative memo from MSSNY and the AAP was joined by at least two dozen additional organizations, among them:
  • Associated Medical Schools of New York
  • NYS Academy of Family Physicians
  • NYS Association of County Health Officials
  • New York American College of Emergency Physicians
  • Nurse Practitioner Association New York State
  • March of Dimes
  • Autism Science Foundation
  • Children’s Defense Fund–New York
  • Erie County Department of Healthand others such as Nurses Who Vaccinate and Ithaca Is Immunized.

    mssny.org
State Health Commissioner Dr. Howard Zucker (a pediatrician) publicly supported the change as necessary to protect herd immunity and medically vulnerable children.

 

New York state law requires kids to receive between 24 and 27 jabs to attend K through 12 schools, according to the DOH vaccine schedule.

An Amish schoolhouse is seen in Fort Plain, NY, on Tuesday, August 25, 2026. At least three Amish schools have been fined $118,000 from the New York State Department of Health for refusing to vaccinate their children, which would violate their religious beliefs.

Upstate Amish parents—who generally teach their children in small classes in one-room schoolhouses which receive no public money—have been in court since 2024 fighting Cuomo’s mandate.


Two years earlier the state began issuing $2,000 fines for non-compliance. Three schools listed as plaintiffs in the lawsuit—Shady Lane school in Clymer, NY; Pleasant View in Heuvelton, NY and Dygert Road School near Canajoharie—together have racked up $118,000 in fines.


Their attorneys tell The Post every Amish school in the state is in the same situation; the DOH refused to answer The Post’s questions about how many other schools had been fined.


How many and who supported Cuomo's removal of religious exemptions in the medical community? Or recommended the removal to Cuomo? GROK

The 2019 repeal of New York’s religious exemption to school vaccination requirements (signed by Gov. Andrew Cuomo on June 13 after a measles outbreak) was backed by a coordinated push from major medical and public-health organizations, not a handful of individual doctors.

recordonline.com
On May 6, 2019, representatives from 28 physician, nurse, and health-advocacy groups plus county health officials held a Capitol news conference urging lawmakers to allow only medical exemptions. The groups included the Medical Society of the State of New York (MSSNY, then led by Dr. Art Fougner), the New York State chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Nurses Association–New York, and the New York chapter of the American College of Physicians (Dr. Linda Effren spoke for ACP).

nypost.com
A joint legislative memo from MSSNY and the AAP was joined by at least two dozen additional organizations, among them:
  • Associated Medical Schools of New York
  • NYS Academy of Family Physicians
  • NYS Association of County Health Officials
  • New York American College of Emergency Physicians
  • Nurse Practitioner Association New York State
  • March of Dimes
  • Autism Science Foundation
  • Children’s Defense Fund–New York
  • Erie County Department of Healthand others such as Nurses Who Vaccinate and Ithaca Is Immunized.

    mssny.org
State Health Commissioner Dr. Howard Zucker (a pediatrician) publicly supported the change as necessary to protect herd immunity and medically vulnerable children.
When I see the word "jabs" I know we are in a political sphere not a scientific one. Here is the requirements for school age kids in NY
Students in New York must receive a total of five core vaccine disease groups (comprising multiple individual doses and shots depending on age and grade level) to attend K-12 school. To boost up the "scare factor" you have separated vaccinations that contain multiple vaccines in one shot. Again, an obvious political agenda at work.

Students in New York are required to receive roughly 15 to 20 total individual vaccine doses from kindergarten through 12th grade, depending on their age and grade level.

The exact number of total shots changes as a child grows because certain grades require booster doses. Required School Vaccines (K-12)DTaP / Tdap: 4 to 5 doses total for younger children, plus an adolescent Tdap booster dose when entering 6th grade (or at age 11).Polio (IPV): 3 to 4 doses total, with a booster usually required after the 4th birthday.MMR (Measles, Mumps, and Rubella): 2 doses.Varicella (Chickenpox): 2 doses.Hepatitis B: 3 doses.Meningococcal Conjugate (MenACWY): 1 dose required for grades 7 through 11, and a 2nd booster dose required at grade 12 (or age 16).

New York generally performs better than the national average regarding serious childhood illnesses and pediatric mortality. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), New York ranks among the top states for overall childhood healthcare and survival, although substantial regional and socioeconomic disparities exist within the state
 
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Well thought out. (My comments apply only to the realities I see in North American Christianity.)
Unfortunately, 21st Century Christianity is a road with two paths that diverge. One is an easy path and the other a much more exciting but challenging one.

In one path, let's call it rubber stamp Christianity. Here "salvation" only requires a head nod to a 60 second pulpit prayer and heaven is guaranteed. You are also joining a church which has all the answers to whatever questions may come along. "This is what to believe, because God said it and that is enough for us." That path of Christianity is in decline in the 21st Century. Millions have left those Christian brands for dozens of good reasons. While Catholicism is holding its own, it is losing against the increase in population and attendance at Mass. Over the last 50 years, the percentage of self-identified Catholics who attend Mass weekly has dropped by roughly half, falling from about 50% in the mid-1970s to approximately 20% to 25% today. To many, they feel "born Catholic" like they feel born American as a feature of their identity.

Major historic groups—such as the United Methodist Church, the Presbyterian Church as seeing continued flight of members. The Southern Baptist Convention—the largest Protestant denomination in the United States—has lost approximately 4 million members since its peak in 2006.h (USA), and the United Church of Christ—have seen individual membership drops ranging from 30% to over 50% since 1990 alone. This is the result of a large number of factors not the least of which is lack of connection both horizontally and vertically. One factor that is no longer satisfying for many is the belief we can have "God in a box." Our creeds, catechisms, statements of faith et.al, are the way God is packaged for easy sale. Our church "bible study" is little more than reaffirmations of the "biblical validation" of our creeds both official and unofficial. Here bible study is designed to confirm what is already accepted of the hand me down "truth."

The second path is more challenging. The second path requires an honest attempt to understand God's will and purposes through a devotion to studying the New Testament (and 3 centuries of Judaism). There is a multi-disciplined way to do that. Fortunately, there is lots of help online if you accept the disciplines required to find an exegetical path. It starts by believing that there is a real historical basis for the perspectives, events, personalities and purposes of those we read about. Thus, we can come to understand the events and people of we find in the New Testament through 3 primary paths. Each has its own disciplines and approaches to mining meaning and insight from the written word. These paths include separate but harmonizing paths of understanding and insight. They are the historic approach, a critical approach and a literary approach. Together these bible study disciplines, IMHO, bring new insights into God's interactions with mankind. After over 60 years of bible study, I find new insights and levels of understanding on a regular basis. It is my belief that a deeper knowledge of God and His will is a liberation from the pre-packaged orthodoxies that constrain any real knowledge of God to credal formulas.

As you might guess from my background, I have a deep and abiding faith that there is way more that we don't yet know than what we do in all areas of life. An intimate knowledge of God and His work through Jesus the Christ is not the basis for salvation but it is a path to a deeper relationship and a legitimate statement of faith that there is a path to greater intimacy through greater knowledge. When you think back to the day you were first infatuated with the girl/woman who you would come to marry, the was an intense desire to "know everything about them." That's how I feel about my Savior.
 
OMC:
Well thought out. (My comments apply only to the realities I see in North American Christianity.)
Unfortunately, 21st Century Christianity is a road with two paths that diverge. One is an easy path and the other a much more exciting but challenging one.

In one path, let's call it rubber stamp Christianity. Here "salvation" only requires a head nod to a 60 second pulpit prayer and heaven is guaranteed. You are also joining a church which has all the answers to whatever questions may come along. "This is what to believe, because God said it and that is enough for us." That path of Christianity is in decline in the 21st Century. Millions have left those Christian brands for dozens of good reasons. While Catholicism is holding its own, it is losing against the increase in population and attendance at Mass. Over the last 50 years, the percentage of self-identified Catholics who attend Mass weekly has dropped by roughly half, falling from about 50% in the mid-1970s to approximately 20% to 25% today. To many, they feel "born Catholic" like they feel born American as a feature of their identity.

Major historic groups—such as the United Methodist Church, the Presbyterian Church as seeing continued flight of members. The Southern Baptist Convention—the largest Protestant denomination in the United States—has lost approximately 4 million members since its peak in 2006.h (USA), and the United Church of Christ—have seen individual membership drops ranging from 30% to over 50% since 1990 alone. This is the result of a large number of factors not the least of which is lack of connection both horizontally and vertically. One factor that is no longer satisfying for many is the belief we can have "God in a box." Our creeds, catechisms, statements of faith et.al, are the way God is packaged for easy sale. Our church "bible study" is little more than reaffirmations of the "biblical validation" of our creeds both official and unofficial. Here bible study is designed to confirm what is already accepted of the hand me down "truth."

The second path is more challenging. The second path requires an honest attempt to understand God's will and purposes through a devotion to studying the New Testament (and 3 centuries of Judaism). There is a multi-disciplined way to do that. Fortunately, there is lots of help online if you accept the disciplines required to find an exegetical path. It starts by believing that there is a real historical basis for the perspectives, events, personalities and purposes of those we read about. Thus, we can come to understand the events and people of we find in the New Testament through 3 primary paths. Each has its own disciplines and approaches to mining meaning and insight from the written word. These paths include separate but harmonizing paths of understanding and insight. They are the historic approach, a critical approach and a literary approach. Together these bible study disciplines, IMHO, bring new insights into God's interactions with mankind. After over 60 years of bible study, I find new insights and levels of understanding on a regular basis. It is my belief that a deeper knowledge of God and His will is a liberation from the pre-packaged orthodoxies that constrain any real knowledge of God to credal formulas.

As you might guess from my background, I have a deep and abiding faith that there is way more that we don't yet know than what we do in all areas of life. An intimate knowledge of God and His work through Jesus the Christ is not the basis for salvation but it is a path to a deeper relationship and a legitimate statement of faith that there is a path to greater intimacy through greater knowledge. When you think back to the day you were first infatuated with the girl/woman who you would come to marry, the was an intense desire to "know everything about them." That's how I feel about my Savior.
You’re on the right path — the harder one, the deeper one, the one that demands discipline and humility and curiosity.
And you’re right: There is far more we don’t know than what we do.
But that’s not a threat.That’s an invitation.
The more you learn, the more you love Him.The more you study, the more you see Him.The more you dig, the more He reveals.
And that hunger — that desire to know Him — is the mark of someone who’s truly alive in Christ.
 
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You’re on the right path — the harder one, the deeper one, the one that demands discipline and humility and curiosity.
And you’re right: There is far more we don’t know than what we do.
But that’s not a threat.That’s an invitation.
The more you learn, the more you love Him.The more you study, the more you see Him.The more you dig, the more He reveals.
And that hunger — that desire to know Him — is the mark of someone who’s truly alive in Christ.
A common analogy used for Christianity was "the path" and "the way." Both suggest a continuous relationship. As with most relationships if they are not pursued they die.
 
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When I see the word "jabs" I know we are in a political sphere not a scientific one.
It is both and refutes your claim that all valid scientists live in a world of humility, which is hogwash.
Here is the requirements for school age kids in NY
Nobody is requesting requirements, which is a dodge. What gave you the idea anyone here was interested in this, in the first place? Totally ignored by you is the Amish situation. (n)
New York generally performs better than the national average regarding serious childhood illnesses and pediatric mortality. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), New York ranks among the top states for overall childhood healthcare and survival, although substantial regional and socioeconomic disparities exist within the state
Generally is a weasel word. Again, this is all a dodge.