The elephant in the room

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There are no faithful nations. There has never been. You can say Israel in the past but look what happened to them?

Nations aren't faithful.
It is believers within a given generation in that nation who produce needed salt.

When eating a steak?
Is it all salt?
No...
Likewise... no nation is Christian or faithful in itself.
How well it does is according to how many believers are actually walking in truth. = Salt.

It only takes so many solid-thinking Christians within a nation to give it good taste in its culture.
The United States in the past was famous for our great taste, as reflected in movies of the '30s, '40s, and '50s.
It was when the hippie "love" culture of the 60s took over that we began a decline of having salt.
 
There are no faithful nations. There has never been. You can say Israel in the past but look what happened to them?

Nations are made up of... people. When God warns nations, He is speaking to the people of the nations to repent or face consequences. If you want to argue nations are not part of God's plan, you will have to refute all of the Biblical references, warnings, and pronouncements directed specifically towards nations, empires, and even cities.
 
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I don't know. Am I the only one following the massive problems in England, Ireland, & Scotland with rape being carried out on a huge scale?

Not to mention these harmless 'immigrants' setting up Sharia courts and taking over established buildings for their own purposes?

The danger in the US is not communism. That's a front. It's Islam.
 
I don't know. Am I the only one following the massive problems in England, Ireland, & Scotland with rape being carried out on a huge scale?

Not to mention these harmless 'immigrants' setting up Sharia courts and taking over established buildings for their own purposes?

The danger in the US is not communism. That's a front. It's Islam.

I've been following this for years. We've lived in several of those countries and they were some of my favorite places on earth. On the one hand, heartbreaking. On the other, the citizens themselves chose this path of reliance and trust in government a long time ago. Of course there are Christians and others who fight against it, but they're overruled and overwhelmed. Restore Britain would give them a chance, but the leftists are fighting that tooth and nail. The ultimate solution is simple: repent and turn back to God.

I think the same anti-Christ evil runs through all the 'isms', hence all are equally dangerous. They're blending together for a reason.
 
Nations aren't faithful.
It is believers within a given generation in that nation who produce needed salt.

When eating a steak?
Is it all salt?
No...
Likewise... no nation is Christian or faithful in itself.
How well it does is according to how many believers are actually walking in truth. = Salt.

It only takes so many solid-thinking Christians within a nation to give it good taste in its culture.
The United States in the past was famous for our great taste, as reflected in movies of the '30s, '40s, and '50s.
It was when the hippie "love" culture of the 60s took over that we began a decline of having salt.
what you’re saying aligns with the way Jesus Himself frames the issue: salt is never a nation — it is disciples. Christ doesn’t say, “You nations are the salt of the earth,” but You are the salt of the earth,”** speaking to individual believers whose lives preserve, restrain decay, and give flavor to the culture around them. Scripture consistently teaches that righteousness is never measured by borders but by faithful believers within a generation — Abraham interceding for Sodom, the remnant in Elijah’s day, the faithful few in Malachi. You’re right that a nation’s “taste” rises or falls with how many Christians are actually walking in truth, not merely claiming a label. When the church holds fast to sound doctrine, it acts as salt; when it drifts into rebellion or worldliness, the culture loses its savor. The decline you’re describing isn’t new — Scripture warns that when believers lose their distinctiveness, the world loses its light. But the hope remains: God has always worked through a faithful remnant, and He still calls His people to be salt and light in whatever nation they inhabit.
 
I don't know. Am I the only one following the massive problems in England, Ireland, & Scotland with rape being carried out on a huge scale?

Not to mention these harmless 'immigrants' setting up Sharia courts and taking over established buildings for their own purposes?

The danger in the US is not communism. That's a front. It's Islam.

Need to add the bigger 'ism': Globalism, which I believe is actually behind the push for islam, communism, marxism, socialism and the actions being taken everywhere in the west [violent protests, chaos, riots, illegal immigration, out of control lawlessness, censorship, one world government control...]. The head of this pyramid is, of course, satanism.
 
what you’re saying aligns with the way Jesus Himself frames the issue: salt is never a nation — it is disciples. Christ doesn’t say, “You nations are the salt of the earth,” but You are the salt of the earth,”** speaking to individual believers whose lives preserve, restrain decay, and give flavor to the culture around them. Scripture consistently teaches that righteousness is never measured by borders but by faithful believers within a generation — Abraham interceding for Sodom, the remnant in Elijah’s day, the faithful few in Malachi. You’re right that a nation’s “taste” rises or falls with how many Christians are actually walking in truth, not merely claiming a label. When the church holds fast to sound doctrine, it acts as salt; when it drifts into rebellion or worldliness, the culture loses its savor. The decline you’re describing isn’t new — Scripture warns that when believers lose their distinctiveness, the world loses its light. But the hope remains: God has always worked through a faithful remnant, and He still calls His people to be salt and light in whatever nation they inhabit.

The faithful remnant, no matter how bad a nation becomes, will live to learn the true meaning of Romans 8:28.
 
I think the same anti-Christ evil runs through all the 'isms', hence all are equally dangerous. They're blending together for a reason.

All on the same side no doubt. Even enemies become friends when it warrants their desires.
Need to add the bigger 'ism': Globalism, which I believe is actually behind the push for islam, communism, marxism, socialism and the actions being taken everywhere in the west [violent protests, chaos, riots, illegal immigration, out of control lawlessness, censorship, one world government control...]. The head of this pyramid is, of course, satanism.

Mankind has a deep need to 'practice' religion. Anything but the truth though. Control is straight up evil as you know.
 
So true. How much better it would have been for the world to make Palestinians wealthy via paying them top dollar for legal title to property from the start rather than causing a much more expensive war that can only be ended by paying them now in accordance with Trump's vision for peace by making the area a tourist mecca.

Trump is not the future of Israel. Apart from that minor self serving little glitch of the current royal family, that's nothing compared to how badly you have skewed anything to do with Israel and what was going on before 1948. History, is not your forte.

I could easily post the history, but if you actually want to know what was really going on, try looking up the Ottoman empire AND the number of Jews already living in so called Palestine.

Here's a little bit of knowledge anyway cause when I read the way you think that Jews are somehow to blame for all the ills, it turns my stomach.

One of the most vexing questions – or issues – today, is the notion that somehow all Palestinian Arabs were unceremoniously expelled from their land – or at the very least denied appropriate remuneration for it. That is simply not the case. It was only in 1856 that the Ottomans had passed a law allowing foreigners to buy land in the empire under the tanzimat reforms, which were a belated and somewhat half-hearted attempt at permitting people to feel part of the state by giving them rights.

The Rapid Development of Israel Before 1948​

The Land of Israel before 1948 was a curious mixture of ancient, slow-moving and traditional ways of life and also a place bursting with pioneering spirit. During the early 20th century, a period when the ossifying Ottoman Empire was still dominant, Jewish immigration and land purchases were increasingly changing a seemingly forgotten place. Jewish immigrants rapidly reinvigorated a land that had barely seen any infrastructure or modernization during a 400-year rule.

The physical landscape changed as advancements in water technology – which continued apace during the British Mandate period – particularly, irrigation and the ability to use even brackish water for agriculture, showed that even in the desert, human life could be sustained.

In addition, small towns began to grow into cities and new neighborhoods began to spill out from existing conurbations. In that atmosphere, the Hebrew language developed further, used in books, newspapers, radio and theater – a continued resuscitation from the dead. Political organizations were also critical, as the levers of the state – before there was even a state – were exercised on a daily basis. They created the building blocks of the thriving, modern state of Israel that we see today. source

As a bonus? You can alwasy check out the Bible for what God says He is going to do with regards to calling the Jews home.
 
Trump is not the future of Israel. Apart from that minor self serving little glitch of the current royal family, that's nothing compared to how badly you have skewed anything to do with Israel and what was going on before 1948. History, is not your forte.

I could easily post the history, but if you actually want to know what was really going on, try looking up the Ottoman empire AND the number of Jews already living in so called Palestine.

Here's a little bit of knowledge anyway cause when I read the way you think that Jews are somehow to blame for all the ills, it turns my stomach.

One of the most vexing questions – or issues – today, is the notion that somehow all Palestinian Arabs were unceremoniously expelled from their land – or at the very least denied appropriate remuneration for it. That is simply not the case. It was only in 1856 that the Ottomans had passed a law allowing foreigners to buy land in the empire under the tanzimat reforms, which were a belated and somewhat half-hearted attempt at permitting people to feel part of the state by giving them rights.

The Rapid Development of Israel Before 1948​

The Land of Israel before 1948 was a curious mixture of ancient, slow-moving and traditional ways of life and also a place bursting with pioneering spirit. During the early 20th century, a period when the ossifying Ottoman Empire was still dominant, Jewish immigration and land purchases were increasingly changing a seemingly forgotten place. Jewish immigrants rapidly reinvigorated a land that had barely seen any infrastructure or modernization during a 400-year rule.

The physical landscape changed as advancements in water technology – which continued apace during the British Mandate period – particularly, irrigation and the ability to use even brackish water for agriculture, showed that even in the desert, human life could be sustained.

In addition, small towns began to grow into cities and new neighborhoods began to spill out from existing conurbations. In that atmosphere, the Hebrew language developed further, used in books, newspapers, radio and theater – a continued resuscitation from the dead. Political organizations were also critical, as the levers of the state – before there was even a state – were exercised on a daily basis. They created the building blocks of the thriving, modern state of Israel that we see today. source

As a bonus? You can alwasy check out the Bible for what God says He is going to do with regards to calling the Jews home.
Please look at 1948 map, what's isreal, what's Palestine. Compare it to today. And israel state is still bombing more lands to expand its territory.
 
I don't say this to create strife, but it can be said from the past, look at the Map God gave Isreal compared to 1948. In this it appears the table has flipped.
 
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compare to Moses time with 1948?
“From the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates.” (Genesis 15:18–21)
This is the largest stated boundary, and it includes:
River of Egypt — not the Nile, but the Wadi el‑Arish
Euphrates — running through modern Syria and Iraq
The land of ten nations listed in Gen. 15:19–21
This is the full covenant grant.
 
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Palestine got its name from the Philistines. Not the Arabs.
Ancient Palestine was the name used at times to speak of Israel!
The term “Palestine” was not originally an ethnic label for Arabs; it was a geographical designation used by Greeks and Romans long before Islam existed. It comes from Palaistinē, a name connected to the ancient Philistines, and was used at various times to refer broadly to the region that included Israel and Judea. That’s simply historical fact, not a political insult.
 
The term “Palestine” was not originally an ethnic label for Arabs; it was a geographical designation used by Greeks and Romans long before Islam existed. It comes from Palaistinē, a name connected to the ancient Philistines, and was used at various times to refer broadly to the region that included Israel and Judea. That’s simply historical fact, not a political insult.
You are correct!!!.
It is like America, a regional name. Not ethnic name.
If native American today bombs us out of here, it will be called murdering, robbery.
And that's only 250 years.
 
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