Replacement theology? Yes or No.

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Scroll down the Dead Sea Scrolls to find...hold on..Luke 21:24 wasn't written on a dead sea scroll was it?

How did these gospels get delivered. Pigeon post?

I would wildly assume they looked like this

If I recall, the Ten commandments were written on 2 tablets of stone which Moses promptly broke, but they got replaced. Then they got put in the ark of covenant, which is now....where?

Along with a rod, and some leftover manna.

I actually saw a portion of the Dead Sea scrolls in person, pretty cool!

 

[OMC]

That's assuming reform itself is not neutral. Sovereign itself is not neutral.

You are correct. "Reformed" is not neutral, and even the word "sovereign" is not neutral, because both carry theological assumptions that shape interpretation before the text is even opened. Dangerous.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

This post seems generated by ai. It is a load of statements, yet has no factors to back up statements.

Poor job, ai.

Hope cc will shut down ai posts like this.

Ai takes it's info from websites. Just like thousands of posts here. Nothing in the rules against Ai, especially if it's correct.

 

[Churchgoer]

You are correct. "Reformed" is not neutral, and even the word "sovereign" is not neutral, because both carry theological assumptions that shape interpretation before the text is even opened. Dangerous.

Thank you for your input.

 

[Lanolin]

I actually saw a portion of the Dead Sea scrolls in person, pretty cool!

Did you get to read them..or have someone read them to you?
Are they housed in a special room, I mean how are they 'shelved'

In the olden days, scripture was so precious that the Bibles or codexes had to be chained to the reading desks as paper or parchment was so rare.

How about them illuminated Bibles?

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

That's assuming reform itself is not neutral. Sovereign itself is not neutral.

Again thank you for your response.

If using ai, please do not reply to me.

If by yourself, please do.

Thank you.

Ok so applies to everyone here correct? So then you'll have no one to talk to because almost every response here comes from a website, and all AI does is collect info from several sites at once. No, the rules are posted, you don't get to make new ones. If you don't like how the forum is run then you should go find one you like.

 

[Churchgoer]

There are many genuine people here with their posts, I am happy to chat with genuine people.

If cc in the future filled with ai, then I will find other pond.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Did you get to read them..or have someone read them to you?
Are they housed in a special room, I mean how are they 'shelved'

In the olden days, scripture was so precious that the Bibles or codexes had to be chained to the reading desks as paper or parchment was so rare.

How about them illuminated Bibles?

It was an exhibit and it was all under glass and well protected. It was very interesting.

 

[OMC]

There are many genuine people here with their posts, I am happy to chat with genuine people.

If cc in the future filled with ai, then I will find other pond.

Your constant attack on my disability is disturbing. I am a genuine person, and since you can’t disrupt anything I say, your go-to response is deflection, redirection, and sarcasm—traits of the adversary.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

There are many genuine people here with their posts, I am happy to chat with genuine people.

If cc in the future filled with ai, then I will find other pond.

You are talking to genuine people. Using AI to find info doesn't make you not genuine or not human. You're acting like the people who wouldn't get their photo taken back in the day cause they were scared to death it was going to steal their soul.

 

[Churchgoer]

Your constant attack on my disability is disturbing. I am a genuine person, and since you can’t disrupt anything I say, your go-to response is deflection, redirection, and sarcasm—traits of the adversary.

I generally like you, and I do recognize you have some posts written by yourself.
Please don't take my statement as an attack to you at all.

To the most, it is a statement that I have no interest in ai.

Blessing to you, brother omc.

 

[Lanolin]

It was an exhibit and it was all under glass and well protected. It was very interesting.

Was this in the Holy Land itself? Or have the dead sea scrolls allowed out in museum exhibits, like travelling exhibitions.

Have you been inside a synagogue, maybe as a guest? They have the Torah in a special cabinet, covered in cloth, with lights on etc. I've only ever seen them in photos or in movies i.e one movie I saw was about a bar/bat mitsvah, and the girl was going to do a scripture reading in Hebrew in front of the assembly/congregation, and she had to learn it before her big ceremony.

Jesus definitely read from Isaiah in the synagogue when he had his turn...

 

[OMC]

I generally like you, and I do recognize you have some posts written by yourself.
Please don't take my statement as an attack to you at all.

To the most, it is a statement that I have no interest in ai.

Blessing to you, brother omc.

AI is not your problem sister, understanding how its used and its limits are. educate yourself. Your fear is misplaced.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

“You have no understanding of God's covenants.”


….Yeah because what god said in scriptire …. Probably has nothing to do with his covenant …..

 

[cv5]

Alright so when is the times of the gentiles fulfilled? It says the Jews are scattered UNTIL that time occurs. Isn't it occuring now when they are returning? Or maybe it is talking about the second coming, the ultimate regathering of all God's people.

This brief yet concise summary has been posted dozens of times already.
I would have thought that most would have become aware of these crucial UNTIL and RESTORE statements by now.
So here it goes again:

Jesus CLEARLY states that a ***future*** Elijah will come and RESTORE all things, INCLUDING the "kingdom to Israel".

Yes, the crucifixion did NOT result in the salvation of the Nation Israel back then.
However, it DID set in motion these "UNTIL" statements. All of which make certain a FUTURE prophetic salvation of the whole nation.

Explain if you can these crucial UNTIL statements and these equally critical RESTORE statements.

Act 1:6
When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the ***kingdom to Israel***?

Mat 17:11
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.

Act 3:21
“whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.

Luk 13:35
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Luk 21:24
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Rom 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Mat 26:29
But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.

Luk 22:16
For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.

 

[cv5]

Does that really matter in the greater context and scheme of things?

Zechariah 14:9 - And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

You would do well to carefully read and understand my posts.
Yes, it really does matter.

 

[OMC]

Jesus CLEARLY states that a ***future*** Elijah will come and RESTORE all things, INCLUDING the "kingdom to Israel".

Yes, the crucifixion did NOT result in the salvation of the Nation Israel back then.
However, it DID set in motion these "UNTIL" statements. All of which make certain a FUTURE prophetic salvation of the whole nation.

Explain if you can these crucial UNTIL statements and these equally critical RESTORE statements.

Act 1:6
When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the ***kingdom to Israel***?

Mat 17:11
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.

Act 3:21
“whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.

Luk 13:35
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Luk 21:24
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Rom 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Mat 26:29
But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.

Luk 22:16
For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.

When I read all these passages together in a strictly text‑first way, I do see that Jesus speaks of a future Elijah who will restore all things, and every one of the “until” statements you listed points forward to a future moment when Israel’s blindness ends, Jerusalem’s trampling stops, the nation blesses the Messiah’s return, and the kingdom is finally restored to Israel; the crucifixion didn’t accomplish national salvation at that time, but it initiated a prophetic countdown in which each “until” marks a stage leading toward a future restoration exactly as Jesus, Peter, and Paul describe.

 

[Churchgoer]

AI is not your problem sister, understanding how its used and its limits are. educate yourself. Your fear is misplaced.

Thank you for your opinion.

For those who loves ai, please enjoy.

To each its own. Enjoy

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I think you should read Revelation 20 again unless you believe that there will still be people repopulating and dying in the NEW earth before the final Great White Throne Judgement. Jesus will cut out 2/3 from the existing land and refine a 1/3 remnant to REMAIN in the land per Zechariah 13:8-9. This is where Jesus' Millennial Kingdom reign will take place to allow the remnant to rebuild and populate for 1,000 years before the final battle of Gog & Magog and the final Great White Throne Judgement as described in Revelation 20.

Yeah everyone has thier theory I remember hearing that one in the seventies …,

Wonder what the apostles thought about these things ? They wrote a lot some of you should read before becoming experts on the subject …. But honestly not many here seem interested in what the bible says about things

 

[Revelation1v8]

You would do well to carefully read and understand my posts.
Yes, it really does matter.

I've read and understood your posts, but when Jesus returns to earth the Bible tells us that He will be returning with ALL OF HIS SAINTS, which includes us. He will be King and Lord over ALL while on the earth during His Millennial Kingdom reign.