Applying God's Word to Politics

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As we in the USA remember what happened on September 11, 2001,
does it affect how we vote in 2026?
Do we care about our country?
Or do we despise our blessing/birthright?
Which party best reflects Christian values, the Marxist Dems or the MAGA Pubs?
Because Marxist professors are the reason the USA is close to becoming Marxist,
should we pray for their removal and preventing further perversion of generations?
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What happened in 2001 should not affect how we vote. It was a malicious attack from islamists. An act of war.

Indeed the attack on the World Trade Center was an act of war, and it is unfortunate that we lost it, thanks to George Bush and advisors. Here is my analysis:

War in Afghanistan (2001-21)

Mistake #1 – Failing to prevent the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001.

Mulligan #1 – Prevent the 9-11 attacks by means of FBI and CIA involvement, and punish anyone who contributed to the tragedy because of their incompetence, beginning at the top. (President Bush had been briefed about a credible threat of aircraft hijacking by al-Qaeda.)

Mistake #2 – Failing to win the war in Afghanistan quickly with minimal casualties and cost.

Mulligan #2 – After the Taliban were defeated in November of 2001, continue surging military support especially along the borders to prevent the escape of Bin Laden and infiltration from Pakistan. Insure that the Bonn Agreement in December calls for increasingly locking down the country, holding secure elections by the end of 2003, and implementing something like the Marshall Plan by 2004. Do not depart until Afghanistan is stable for two years, but leave an adequate military presence to monitor the situation and deter terrorist efforts to reorganize.

War in Iraq (2003-11)

Mistake #1 – Failure to prevent the need for active war in Iraq.

Mulligan #1 – Fire warmongers including Rumsfeld and Cheney. Utilize sanctions to prompt Saddam to allow inspections of suspected WMD locations. Punish his murderous behavior with appropriate consequences, such as no-fly zones or targeting him with precision guided missiles.

Mistake #2 – Failing to win the war in Iraq quickly with minimal casualties and cost.

Mulligan #2 – Using the win in Afghanistan as a model, after the initial invasion continue to surge military support until the country’s border with Iran cannot be infiltrated, weapons (or materiel for making IEDs) cannot be stolen from armories, key infrastructure is protected and insurgency is prevented. Instead of disbanding the Iraqi army, transform it with the help of cooperative officers into a peace-making mission between Sunnis and Shiites.

After the capture of Saddam in December of 2003, continue surging support in order to prevent insurgent attacks (such as in Fallujah), insure secure elections (held in the fall of 2005), and implement something like the Marshall Plan by 2006. Maintain the surge (not begun by General Petraeus until 2007), until the country is stable for two years (giving PTSD to enemy elements), then withdraw except for an adequate military presence to monitor the situation and prevent terrorist resurgence.

Cost of the protracted war(s)? Trillions of dollars in debt and thousands of American military casualties and deaths that we still have not recovered from. :cry:
 
We don’t win wars anymore because we don’t go all in. It’s always just a few raids and then another raid later and then again. We let the enemy regroup and regain strength time and again.
 
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We don’t win wars anymore because we don’t go all in. It’s always just a few raids and then another raid later and then again. We let the enemy regroup and regain strength time and again.

Yes, "we" because I voted for our fellow Texan Bush and rued doing so ever since.
Where were Trump and Schwarzkopf when we needed them?!
Apparently losing the Vietnam war only taught us how to lose wars.
Thank God Trump is winning the war with Iran with minimal casualties,
before they were able to attack us with nuclear weapons,
and I trust/pray he will soon be able to sell Irani oil to reimburse us the cost.
 
All who believe have a Kingdom with an Eternal King. Shall we trade Him for another? I think not.

Yes, and we who believe in the Eternal King also believe He has blessed us with a wonderful country/"Canaan",
for which we should be thankful and willing to defend rather than spurn our earthly birthright like Esau did.
 
Because Marxist professors are the reason the USA is close to becoming Marxist,
should we pray for their removal and preventing further perversion of generations?
Lest we forget, long before our common foe held captive the professor, the statesmen, the journalists, the civil servant, they all were the 'watchmen on the wall' with a people's ready ear of spiritual vigilance to receive their alarm. But not all, thankfully, the despiser of everything upright was held at bay till our beloved founders could get this country on it's feet to the great anticipation of her people. But that anticipation of everyone who takes part has grown cold. Why? Why don't they hold national days of prayers, fastings and thanksgivings with a minimum emphasis for His continued blessings? The mouth the ear and the heart have all been distracted from their former positions by a substitute form of 'enlightenment' using the same methodologies without being 'troubled' by the altar.
 
Lest we forget, long before our common foe held captive the professor, the statesmen, the journalists, the civil servant, they all were the 'watchmen on the wall' with a people's ready ear of spiritual vigilance to receive their alarm. But not all, thankfully, the despiser of everything upright was held at bay till our beloved founders could get this country on it's feet to the great anticipation of her people. But that anticipation of everyone who takes part has grown cold. Why? Why don't they hold national days of prayers, fastings and thanksgivings with a minimum emphasis for His continued blessings? The mouth the ear and the heart have all been distracted from their former positions by a substitute form of 'enlightenment' using the same methodologies without being 'troubled' by the altar.

Amen! I am reading the book "Revolution" by Eric Metaxas, who documents that most of our founders were motivated by recent revivals and a common sense of divine destiny. Previously I have read other books explaining how we arrived at this time of apostasy and potential Armaggedon. The high cost and eventual loss of both the Vietnam War in 1973 and the War on Islamic Terrorists from 9-11-91 until 2019 divided and damaged our country, so that now our nation is in danger of becoming an authoritarian socialist state.

Again, the threat is that our disunity will end in Communism, which now governs most of the world and almost every aspect of our society–education, entertainment, news, social media, banking and monopolistic businesses–corrupting politicians and elections. The main cause of this corruption is that following WWII America allowed subversive educators to infiltrate universities, including Herbert Marcuse and Marxist Saul Alinsky, whose book "Rules for Radicals" was dedicated to Satan and whose rules included deception and violence (the end justifies the means).

The teachings of such radical professors has influenced many college students (including Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama) to favor socialist policies. (See "The War for America’s Soul" by Gorka, p. 59-65.) Many Americans are oblivious to the slow disintegration of the Constitutional consensus, because the owners of most news media were similarly educated and sympathetic.

A main financier of the socialist movement has been George Soros, who became a billionaire, established a network called the Open Society Foundation to promote a global government, and since 2003 has been financing numerous socialist groups in the U.S. (See "The Shadow Party" by Horowitz & Poe, p. 78-95 & 177-82.)
Other leaders of the globalist cabal or “new world order” are members of the World Economic Forum, which meets annually in Davos, Switzerland. They envision a technological revolution that transforms the world (including America), converting humans who freely worship God into drones coerced by a fascist-communist state as in China. (See "The Great Reset" by A. Jones, p. 4-7, 28 & 95.)

The globalists began to conspire with communist China (the CCP) in 1978, when the Trilateral Commission befriended Chinese leaders and sought a New International Economic Order. Since then the CCP has pursued a clever strategy that has steadily weakened the U.S. as China gained power, currently on display as its military buildup, the COVID-19 pandemic, aggression against Taiwan and the “One Road One Belt” policy. It aims to surpass the U.S. and dominate Eurasia by the year 2049. (See "Reset", p. 40-44 & "War", p. 136.)

Finally the authoritative Biden administration weakened the U.S. and attempted to banish conservative Constitutionalist opposition. Much of the news media failed to report this truth, so that many people remained ignorant of the dissolution of the American dream of liberty for all (like frogs being boiled alive because the water temperature is raised slowly).

Now Trump and MAGA folks are trying to avert disaster, but the Democrats are mainly Marxists, so we are only one election and generation away from a communist coup. Will the midterm elections promote or delay our demise?
 
Amen! I am reading the book "Revolution" by Eric Metaxas, who documents that most of our founders were motivated by recent revivals and a common sense of divine destiny. Previously I have read other books explaining how we arrived at this time of apostasy and potential Armaggedon. The high cost and eventual loss of both the Vietnam War in 1973 and the War on Islamic Terrorists from 9-11-91 until 2019 divided and damaged our country, so that now our nation is in danger of becoming an authoritarian socialist state.

Again, the threat is that our disunity will end in Communism, which now governs most of the world and almost every aspect of our society–education, entertainment, news, social media, banking and monopolistic businesses–corrupting politicians and elections. The main cause of this corruption is that following WWII America allowed subversive educators to infiltrate universities, including Herbert Marcuse and Marxist Saul Alinsky, whose book "Rules for Radicals" was dedicated to Satan and whose rules included deception and violence (the end justifies the means).

The teachings of such radical professors has influenced many college students (including Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama) to favor socialist policies. (See "The War for America’s Soul" by Gorka, p. 59-65.) Many Americans are oblivious to the slow disintegration of the Constitutional consensus, because the owners of most news media were similarly educated and sympathetic.

A main financier of the socialist movement has been George Soros, who became a billionaire, established a network called the Open Society Foundation to promote a global government, and since 2003 has been financing numerous socialist groups in the U.S. (See "The Shadow Party" by Horowitz & Poe, p. 78-95 & 177-82.)
Other leaders of the globalist cabal or “new world order” are members of the World Economic Forum, which meets annually in Davos, Switzerland. They envision a technological revolution that transforms the world (including America), converting humans who freely worship God into drones coerced by a fascist-communist state as in China. (See "The Great Reset" by A. Jones, p. 4-7, 28 & 95.)

The globalists began to conspire with communist China (the CCP) in 1978, when the Trilateral Commission befriended Chinese leaders and sought a New International Economic Order. Since then the CCP has pursued a clever strategy that has steadily weakened the U.S. as China gained power, currently on display as its military buildup, the COVID-19 pandemic, aggression against Taiwan and the “One Road One Belt” policy. It aims to surpass the U.S. and dominate Eurasia by the year 2049. (See "Reset", p. 40-44 & "War", p. 136.)

Finally the authoritative Biden administration weakened the U.S. and attempted to banish conservative Constitutionalist opposition. Much of the news media failed to report this truth, so that many people remained ignorant of the dissolution of the American dream of liberty for all (like frogs being boiled alive because the water temperature is raised slowly).

Now Trump and MAGA folks are trying to avert disaster, but the Democrats are mainly Marxists, so we are only one election and generation away from a communist coup. Will the midterm elections promote or delay our demise?
Great re-cap!
The main cause of this corruption is that following WWII America allowed subversive educators to infiltrate universities, including Herbert Marcuse and Marxist Saul Alinsky, whose book "Rules for Radicals" was dedicated to Satan and whose rules included deception and violence (the end justifies the means).
Didn't know about the dedication and happily ignorant of SA's level of godlessness. Having read that little work whom Hillary did her college essay on, the paralysis, accusations and projections therein, those 'rules' can be seen every passing week by this new Democratic takeover. Bernie is thrilled I'm sure.
 
I do not wish to offend anyone by quoting our Savior, Immanuel God with us.



43
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
44
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
45
so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
46
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
47
And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?
48
Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
English LSB 2021
Blessed also are the peacemakers for thy shall be called sons of God.

Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.

Thes are teachings of our Savior, our Master. I believe Him, as do all who believe.

This sermon on the mount was true when given us and is eternally true.
 
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Great re-cap!

Didn't know about the dedication and happily ignorant of SA's level of godlessness. Having read that little work whom Hillary did her college essay on, the paralysis, accusations and projections therein, those 'rules' can be seen every passing week by this new Democratic takeover. Bernie is thrilled I'm sure.

Yes, and now we who understand the root cause of society's cancer must excise Marxist teachers/traitors from our schools as necessary for the solution/cure.
 
I do not wish to offend anyone by quoting our Savior, Immanuel God with us.




43
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
44
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
45
so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
46
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
47
And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?
48
Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
English LSB 2021
Blessed also are the peacemakers for thy shall be called sons of God.

Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.

Thes are teachings of our Savior, our Master. I believe Him, as do all who believe.

This sermon on the mount was true when given us and is eternally true.

Loving your family and neighbors is not allowing them to be murdered and subjugated by demons.
That brand of pacifism/forgiveness abets evil.

No offense, but you need to meditate more on Romans 13:1-5 and even on the justness of the conquest of Canaan
until you see how to harmonize 43-48 with the rest of Scripture.

Here is how I do so:

TOJ #16: Believers are peacemakers. [Matt. 5:9a] All souls should strive for peace (Rom. 12:16-18) and unity (Eph. 4:3). An application of this teaching is made by Jesus later in His sermon. {Matt. 5:23-24} This attribute should not be equated or confused with antinomianism (not having criminal laws) or pacifism (not resisting aggressor nations), but it does correlate with TOJ #14 & #29. Slogans advocating peace should always include a reference to freedom and justice. (Also see Eccl. 3:8 & Rev. 12:7, 19:11.) The opposite of this truth is TOJ #157.

TOJ #30: Love and pray for God’s/your enemies. [Matt. 5:43-47//Luke 6:27-28&32-36] God’s agape/love is unconditional (Rom. 5:6-8). We should “hate what is evil” (RM 12:9) while loving people we dislike. This teaching is akin to TOJ #14, #16 & #29. However, God’s forgiveness of Sin is conditional upon repentance (TOJ #8 & #114).

Some people have interpreted Matt. 5:38-48 as teaching pacifism, as though Jesus would say “And if someone murders your spouse, offer them your children”. I believe such a view fails to harmonize with Rom. 13:2-4, which teaches that God works through godly governments to execute, if necessary, murderers and other evil aggressors.

Like God’s mercy, Believers’ forgiveness of other sinners is conditional upon their contrition (Matt. 18:26&29), or else they would be abetting immoral behavior. Thus, forgiving apparently remorseful criminals does not mean canceling the appropriate consequence for their immoral behavior, including capital punishment of capital crimes along the lines of "eye for eye".

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War and Capital Punishment

We are saved by faith (EPH 2:8-9), but God’s grace is not cheap, so genuine saving faith IS followed by good works (EPH 2:10, cf. JM 2:17). By cooperating with God’s Word = Holy Spirit (PHP 2:13) and rejecting evil desires (2TM 2:22), we can be a “good soldier of Christ Jesus” (2TM 2:3), spiritually trained and “equipped for every good work” (2TM 3:17). Speaking of being a soldier and good works leads us to address the following question: Is military soldiering a good work? Can we be both a good soldier of Christ and a military soldier?

The Bible does not condemn any occupation other than prostitution, and notice that Paul here (and Jesus in MT 8:5-13) spoke of soldiering without condemning it, and such silence speaks volumes! This silence leaves us with the freedom and consequent responsibility to evaluate vocations including soldiering. The most relevant scriptural references are RM 13:1-5 and 1PT 2:13-14. Pacifists cite Jesus’ command to turn the other cheek (in MT 5:39) and Paul’s instruction to overcome evil with good rather than seek revenge (in RM 12:17-21) as implying that policing and soldiering are wrong, but these passages refer to personal relationships rather than to governmental enforcement of criminal laws.

In the Romans passage, verses 3&4 are the key ones: “Rulers hold no terror [imprisonment or execution—a very contemporary term!] for those who do right, but for those who do wrong… the one in authority… is God’s servant to do you good [this eliminates rulers such as Hitler, Stalin and Saddam Hussein]. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword [means to kill] for nothing. He is God’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer [murderer, terrorist].” (By the way, “God’s servant” is what the word “Muslim” means.)

Similarly, 1PT 2:14 says that governors “are sent by [God] to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right.” This truth applies not only to police forces in cities and states but also to soldiers in national governments, implying that (more godly, though imperfect) nations should punish evil tyrants and terrorists.

Thus, soldiers who serve God’s will to fight in righteous or justified wars to defeat murderers are agents of His wrath (Muslims). Let us note that wrath does not mean a hateful fit of rage, but rather the loving action of righteous anger, such as that displayed by Jesus when he cleared the temple of money-changers (in MT 21:12-13). God’s wrath metes out the just or appropriate consequence for those who choose to behave evilly and hatefully. Thus, any killing or other violent actions we do should be motivated by love: love for God, for divine justice and for the victims of demonic injustice.

We wage war on three levels. Within our own hearts we seek to let God’s love and wisdom overcome temptations to be selfish and foolish (RM 7:23, 2CR 10:3-5, 1PT 2:11). On an interpersonal level, we must bear with one another in love, endeavoring to keep the unity and peace of the Holy Spirit (EPH 4:2-3) rather than be deceived by lies and attempts of the ungodly spirit to divide and conquer us (1CR 3:3, 2CR 12:20, GL 5:20). And on a corporate level, we must cooperate and enforce just laws, so that murderers are not allowed to destroy more righteous, though imperfect, people (EX 21:12, 21:23).

Because the Bible contains detailed instructions regarding the punishment of crimes such as murder, it is logical to assume that it would contain a commandment and specific teachings against war if pacifism were correct, but it does not. The OT principle of “life for life” (EX 21:24) indicates that murder is the capital crime for which execution is just, although the NT teaching about forgiveness for minor crimes (TOJ #29 & #36) implies that a society may grant even violent criminals a chance to hear the gospel, repent and be rehabilitated. Some say that capital punishment risks unjust executions, but this concern needs to be balanced with ensuring that a penal system does not encourage unjust murders. (See the essay on Criminal Justice.)

The justification of capital punishment can be applied on an international scale. Godly or civilized nations must cooperate and enforce just laws so that demonic souls like Hitler and Stalin are not allowed to conquer or destroy more righteous, though imperfect, governments. (See TOJ #30.) We have a responsibility as ministers of God and disciples of Christ to share the gospel with people in all nations (MT 28:19) and thereby help them to acquire their God-given rights to life (JN 10:10), liberty (JN 8:32&36) and the pursuit of happiness (JN 15:11). To the extent we are able, we should prevent murder and stop murderous dictators from killing and enslaving people (JM 4:17). As the world’s super-power, may God grant our leaders the courage to use this power with wisdom to show divine love (RM 5:8) for the poor and enslaved by defeating ungodly regimes (TOJ #45&129, RM 14:19).

As we contemplate the deaths of our soldiers and the sorrow of their families during times of military war, may it remind us of the great sacrifices that have been made by those who have gone before us in order to preserve the blessings of freedom for our country and humanity. And may their sacrifice remind us of the sacrifice of Christ (PHP 2:8), whose death one day will free us from the sinful nature that does evil and necessitates war against extremely evildoers, so that there will be “no more death or mourning or crying or pain” (RV 21:4). This recreation of the world is the meaning of Easter, and indeed the reason for the creation of the present universe in the beginning of time. May it begin in our hearts and be evidenced by our lives, to the glory of God.

One way to show divine love is by forgiving people who do wrong (MT 5:39). Another way is by teaching people not to do wrong (HB 12:5-6&11). And a third way is by imposing just consequences for doing wrong. For those who hurt people, confinement may be necessary, and for murderers execution is deserved (RM 13:4), although a society may decide that circumstances warrant extended confinement instead or even efforts to reform them.

The problem is deciding which type of love to apply to various situations, because we should have learned from the attempts by European nations to appease Hitler in the 1930s that war may become necessary, so resisting evil sooner may be less tragic and destructive of life than waiting until it becomes more widespread. By the grace of God the United States was able to acquire the atom bomb before Germany and Japan, but it may not have been necessary to lose so many lives in the invasion of Normandy and in the bombing of Japan if Europe had stopped Hitler before he became powerful and allied with Japan.

The lesson of Hitler’s Holocaust against the Jews and Christians is that evil is real, and that we all have the potential to be as horrible as Hitler, although we may battle the tendency toward hatred and selfishness in our own souls (RM 7:22-23). The death of relatively innocent people who are killed by terrorists continues to remind us of our mortality and our need for God’s goodness and resurrection power as well as of the vital responsibility that comes with our human moral capacity and free will. Paul wrote that we should “make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification” (RM 14:19, cf. EPH 4:29). Edification means constructing moral character in those who want to be servants of God (“Muslims”). Thus, we should embrace rather than reject the opportunity of nation building.

Does this jibe, JaumeJ?
 
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
Pacifists cite Jesus’, ,
Of course we love and pray for them, , without abandoning everything else related He admonishes us over in the NT.
Believers’ forgiveness of other sinners is conditional upon their contrition (Matt. 18:26&29)
One day this was driven home for me when Paul fought those "beast in Ephesus" I believe that passage to be the height of "pearls before swine". Though Paul did express regret when I suspect after intersession, the dead "rose not". Again, as Jesus', "no greater love than a man lay down his [good life] for his friends."
 
Of course we love and pray for them, , without abandoning everything else related He admonishes us over in the NT.

One day this was driven home for me when Paul fought those "beast in Ephesus" I believe that passage to be the height of "pearls before swine". Though Paul did express regret when I suspect after intersession, the dead "rose not". Again, as Jesus', "no greater love than a man lay down his [good life] for his friends."
Yes, the same Jesus who will condemn haters/enemies to a just hell.
 
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