Well, just the fact they claim it was written by Adam but it doesn't show up until the era of the Pharisees when they wrote a bunch of heretical forgeries is probably the most glaringly obvious.
What happened to...Eve?
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Well, just the fact they claim it was written by Adam but it doesn't show up until the era of the Pharisees when they wrote a bunch of heretical forgeries is probably the most glaringly obvious.
I don't think it was claimed it was written by Adam. It's just seems like a book ABOUT Adam and Eve not actually written by him.
If so, what did he or the Pharisees write? Have you actually read it?
I think it's a none issue for mankind.
If this sort of thing is something the Lord needed for us to know, He would have put all the details in His Word.
Worrying about this is wasted time and is time that could be spent on legitimate bible study
Yea I have read it.
Well it matters who wrote it and when. It's a forgery that was written way long after Adam and during a period of time when a lot of popular heretical pseudoepigrapha's were written not surprisingly by the Pharisees.
I'm not worried at all, but reading blatant heresy doesn't actually tell you anything about Eve. It's analgous to me wanting to know about Lanolin and then reading what one of her enemies wrote about her like 3000 years after she lived.
have you read it or do you disregard it completely because its not in the bible, the origins are from the first century, author unknown, I believe there might be some truths in it ir was an interesring read well worth it.
i have had AI summarizr the first book
Yes. The First Book of Adam and Eve, usually called The First Book of Adam and Eve, is an ancient Jewish-Christian pseudepigraphal work. It is not part of the biblical canon, and it is much later than Genesis. It presents an expanded story of Adam and Eve after their expulsion from Eden.
Adam and Eve are deeply sorrowful. They remember the glory they had in Eden and struggle with the loss of God's presence. They pray and ask God for mercy, and much of the early part of the book focuses on their repentance, fasting, suffering, and desire to return to Paradise.
One major theme is that Adam and Eve continue to have contact with the spiritual world. Satan appears repeatedly and tries to deceive them. Angels also appear, sometimes bringing God's messages or explaining things to Adam.
The book greatly expands the story of Cain and Abel. Cain's jealousy toward Abel becomes central, and Abel's death is portrayed as a terrible turning point for the human family. Adam and Eve mourn Abel and fear what Cain has done.
The story then follows the growing family of Adam and Eve and gives many additional details about their lives that are not found in Genesis. Adam teaches his children about God, righteousness, sin, prayer, and the consequences of disobedience.
Adam repeatedly looks back toward Paradise and longs to enter again. He and Eve sometimes attempt to approach it, but God does not allow them to return. The book describes Paradise as a real heavenly place guarded by angels.
This produces an interesting theme:
Humanity has fallen, but God has not abandoned humanity.
Adam continues to pray. God continues to speak to him. Angels continue to minister to him. There is judgment for sin, but also mercy.
Satan is portrayed as an enemy who wants Adam and Eve to remain separated from God. He repeatedly attempts to deceive them and sometimes appears in different forms.
The book also gives explanations for why Satan hates Adam. Satan's hostility is connected with the honor God gave humanity and with Satan's refusal to accept God's purposes concerning mankind.
This is one of the places where the book goes considerably beyond Genesis.
He teaches his children about God and warns them not to follow Cain's wickedness. Adam understands that death has entered the human condition and that his own death is approaching.
Eventually Adam becomes very ill.
His family mourns because they know that their father—the first man—is dying.
Adam asks God for mercy and asks that he be allowed to return to the place from which humanity came.
The book describes angels being involved with Adam's death and burial. Eve and the family mourn him greatly.
Adam's death becomes a reminder that the warning God gave in Eden concerning death has come to pass.
Eve eventually also dies, and the story continues with their descendants.
It should not be treated as another book of Scripture. It is an ancient religious tradition that expands the Genesis story. Some parts are fascinating because they show how people in antiquity understood the early chapters of Genesis, but we should not assume that every detail actually happened.
And there is something especially interesting for your studies: the book spends far more time on what happened after the Fall than Genesis does. Its central question is almost:
Yes. The First Book of Adam and Eve, usually called The First Book of Adam and Eve, is an ancient Jewish-Christian pseudepigraphal work. It is not part of the biblical canon, and it is much later than Genesis. It presents an expanded story of Adam and Eve after their expulsion from Eden.
The basic story
The book begins where Genesis leaves off: Adam and Eve have been driven out of Paradise because they disobeyed God.Adam and Eve are deeply sorrowful. They remember the glory they had in Eden and struggle with the loss of God's presence. They pray and ask God for mercy, and much of the early part of the book focuses on their repentance, fasting, suffering, and desire to return to Paradise.
One major theme is that Adam and Eve continue to have contact with the spiritual world. Satan appears repeatedly and tries to deceive them. Angels also appear, sometimes bringing God's messages or explaining things to Adam.
The book greatly expands the story of Cain and Abel. Cain's jealousy toward Abel becomes central, and Abel's death is portrayed as a terrible turning point for the human family. Adam and Eve mourn Abel and fear what Cain has done.
The story then follows the growing family of Adam and Eve and gives many additional details about their lives that are not found in Genesis. Adam teaches his children about God, righteousness, sin, prayer, and the consequences of disobedience.
Adam's longing for Paradise
One of the strongest themes is Adam's desire to recover what was lost.Adam repeatedly looks back toward Paradise and longs to enter again. He and Eve sometimes attempt to approach it, but God does not allow them to return. The book describes Paradise as a real heavenly place guarded by angels.
This produces an interesting theme:
Humanity has fallen, but God has not abandoned humanity.
Adam continues to pray. God continues to speak to him. Angels continue to minister to him. There is judgment for sin, but also mercy.
The story of the serpent and Satan
The book gives Satan a much larger role than Genesis does.Satan is portrayed as an enemy who wants Adam and Eve to remain separated from God. He repeatedly attempts to deceive them and sometimes appears in different forms.
The book also gives explanations for why Satan hates Adam. Satan's hostility is connected with the honor God gave humanity and with Satan's refusal to accept God's purposes concerning mankind.
This is one of the places where the book goes considerably beyond Genesis.
Adam's final years
As Adam becomes old, he becomes increasingly concerned about the future of his descendants.He teaches his children about God and warns them not to follow Cain's wickedness. Adam understands that death has entered the human condition and that his own death is approaching.
Eventually Adam becomes very ill.
His family mourns because they know that their father—the first man—is dying.
Adam asks God for mercy and asks that he be allowed to return to the place from which humanity came.
Adam's death
Near the end, Adam dies.The book describes angels being involved with Adam's death and burial. Eve and the family mourn him greatly.
Adam's death becomes a reminder that the warning God gave in Eden concerning death has come to pass.
Eve eventually also dies, and the story continues with their descendants.
What is particularly interesting
There are several ideas in The First Book of Adam and Eve that are not found in Genesis but later became familiar in Jewish and Christian traditions:- extensive conversations between Adam, Eve, angels, and Satan
- detailed descriptions of Paradise
- Satan's opposition to Adam
- Adam and Eve's prolonged repentance after the Fall
- elaborate stories about Cain and Abel
- Adam teaching his children about righteousness
- angels accompanying important events
- traditions about Adam's burial
- explanations for events that Genesis describes only very briefly
It should not be treated as another book of Scripture. It is an ancient religious tradition that expands the Genesis story. Some parts are fascinating because they show how people in antiquity understood the early chapters of Genesis, but we should not assume that every detail actually happened.
And there is something especially interesting for your studies: the book spends far more time on what happened after the Fall than Genesis does. Its central question is almost:
@2Christ
I'm reading other books at the moment and have requested Paradise Lost, as that is about Eve (and Adam) but I would be interested if you could share some bits of what you read of this book.
Or since it's in the public domain, maybe a passage. Did it help you understand Eve better? I guess its kind of filling in the gaps of what we do know about her from the Bible. I imagine being the 'mother of all living' having birthed plenty of children she would have been a legendary figure/matriarch to everyone in the earliest days.
I have read it and I laughed about them putting Satan in India, but its a heretical forgery. There is no truth in it.
Interesting...that Adam died first and left Eve a widow. Wonder if she married again?
Probably not all their children were with each other, later on. Don't really know but seeing Adam had a sin nature I don't think he was ever got fully back to righteousness, Seth was the first one after Abel was murdered to call on the Lord.
Perhaps Eve learned her lesson better than Adam....
They would have had many branches of their growing family, and possibly crossed a few times.
Probably not all their children were with each other, later on. Don't really know but seeing Adam had a sin nature I don't think he was ever got fully back to righteousness, Seth was the first one after Abel was murdered to call on the Lord.
Perhaps Eve learned her lesson better than Adam....
They would have had many branches of their growing family, and possibly crossed a few times.
? Why India..?
Interesting....well in books of Job Satan was just going to and fro so he could have gone to India or any other land on the planet.
Is Book of Job heretical too.
I mean in your opinion.
I'm kind of more interested in what it says about Eve, than Satan.
You don't know that Adam died first. Eve wouldn't marry again even in that scenario because the only men would be her own sons.
All their children were theirs, they're literally the progenitors of all of humanity.
Idk why the heretics selected India, but they did.
Book of Job is not heretical, book of Job is canon. That's not anyone's opinion, that is just what it is.
I remember reading a book about Eve, I think it was by William P Young, the guy who wrote 'The Shack'.
I didn't like The Shack that much, but the one about Eve was not very good. I wouldn't recommend it, he can't write about women that well. Although having said that, he did make God a woman in the Shack.
?! Heretical.
I didn't like The Shack that much, but the one about Eve was not very good. I wouldn't recommend it, he can't write about women that well. Although having said that, he did make God a woman in the Shack.
?! Heretical.
I can't even remember anything about the plot, that's how boring it was.
Am sure William P Young just made things up.
But people in church were raving about The Shack. Even a movie was made of it. Never saw the movie and didn't want to, even though all the Bible ladies wanted to go together. I said no.
Am sure William P Young just made things up.
But people in church were raving about The Shack. Even a movie was made of it. Never saw the movie and didn't want to, even though all the Bible ladies wanted to go together. I said no.
Sounds more like just blatant fiction, but probably contains heresy. That's actually basically the same way we got all the pseudoepigrapha and forgeries after all.