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**---"When you or I write a check, there must be sufficient funds in our account to cover the check, but when the Federal Reserve writes a check, there is no bank deposit on which that check is drawn. When the Federal Reserve writes a check, it is creating money." -- Putting it simply, Boston Federal Reserve Bank​
"There is a distinction between a 'debt discharged' and a debt 'paid'. When discharged, the debt still exists though divested of it's charter as a legal obligation during the operation of the discharge, something of the original vitality of the debt continues to exist, which may be transferred, even though the transferee takes it subject to its disability incident to the discharge." -- Stanek vs. White, 172 Minn.390, 215 N.W. 784​
"I have never seen more Senators express discontent with their jobs....I think the major cause is that, deep down in our hearts, we have been accomplices in doing something terrible and unforgivable to our wonderful country. Deep down in our hearts, we know that we have given our children a legacy of bankruptcy. We have defrauded our country to get ourselves elected." -- John Danforth (R-Mo)​
"Capital must protect itself in every way...Debts must be collected and loans and mortgages foreclosed as soon as possible. When, through a process of law, the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and more easily governed by the strong arm of the law applied by the central power of leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capitalism to govern the world. By dividing the people, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us except as teachers of the common herd." -- Taken from the Civil Servants' Year Book, "The Organizer" January 1934.​
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.​
"If Congress has the right [it doesn't] to issue paper money [currency], it was given to them to be used by...[the government] and not to be delegated to individuals or corporations." -- President Andrew Jackson, Vetoed Bank Bill of 1836​
"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and it's issuance." -- James Madison​
"Should government refrain from regulation (taxation), the worthlessness of the money becomes apparent, and the FRAUD can no longer be concealed." -- British Lord John Maynard Keynes (the father of 'Keynesian Economics', which our nation now endures) in his book "THE ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES OF THE PEACE" (1920).​
"But if in the pursuit of the means we should unfortunately stumble again on unfunded paper money or any similar species of fraud, we shall assuredly give a fatal stab to our national credit in its infancy. Paper money will invariably operate in the body of politics as spirit liquors on the human body. They prey on the vitals and ultimately destroy them. Paper money has had the effect in your state that it will ever have, to ruin commerce, oppress the honest, and open the door to every species of fraud and injustice." -- George Washington in a letter to Jabez Bowen, Rhode Island, Jan. 9, 1787​
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The economic Crash of '29 and the Great Depression were caused by the money vultures and foreign swindlers of the Federal Reserve withholding currency from circulation and raising interest rates after an inflationary easy money policy in the early 1920s. The Federal Reserve's fear of excessive speculation led it into a far too deflationary policy in the late 1920s, "destroying the village in order to save it."
The U.S. economy was already past the peak of the business cycle when the stock market crashed in October of 1929. The Federal Reserve did "overdo it" -- raising interest rates too much, bringing on the recession that they had hoped to avoid.
This contrived "emergency" by the money vultures and the political manipulations of FDR, et. al., since then has created innumerable abuses, usurpations, and abridgments of Constitutionally delegated Powers and Authority as clearly stated in Senate Report 93-549 (1973):
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [-1807 years now in 126] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."

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**( Certain articles in this thread are compiled from various
public domain sources.' Intended solely as informative
and subjects to reflect on.) ®
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This tragedy took place in my life time. Blindsided by a ruse of great deceit from a treacherous
nation. Never doubt, this mindset exist today.
'This was a traumatized nation. May God help us never to witness the likes of this again.




PEARL HARBOR -- DECEMBER 7TH, 1941
You may not be old enough to remember .... the radio news flashes .... the newsreels .... of Pearl Harbor, Dec 7, 1941....
Damn, you would think the world, our nation and our leaders would learn..... I don't think that in our lifetimes there has been a 1 year period without some sort of war ...
I am once again reminded of Rudyard Kipling's statement after WW1
"If any question why we died, Tell them, Because our fathers lied."
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SPECTACULAR PHOTOS OF THE RAID ON PEARL HARBOR
On Sunday, December 7th, 1941 the Japanese launched a surprise attack against the U.S. Forces stationed at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.
By planning his attack on a Sunday, the Japanese commander Admiral Nagumo, hoped to catch the entire fleet in port. As luck would have it, the Aircraft Carriers and one of the Battleships were not in port. (The USS Enterprise was returning from Wake Island, where it had just delivered some aircraft. The USS Lexington was ferrying aircraft to Midway, and the USS Saratoga and USS Colorado were undergoing repairs in the United States.)
In spite of the latest intelligence reports about the missing aircraft carriers (his most important targets), Admiral Nagumo decided to continue the attack with his force of six carriers and 423 aircraft. At a range of 230 miles north of Oahu, he launched the first wave of a two-wave attack. Beginning at 0600 hours his first wave consisted of 183 fighters and torpedo bombers which struck at the fleet in Pearl Harbor and the airfields in Hickam, Kaneohe and Ewa. The second strike, launched at 0715 hours, consisted of 167 aircraft, which again struck at the same targets.
At 0753 hours the first wave consisting of 40 Nakajima B5N2 "Kate" torpedo bombers, 51 Aichi D3A1 "Val" dive bombers, 50 high altitude bombers and 43 Zeros struck airfields and Pearl Harbor. Within the next hour, the second wave arrived and continued the attack. When it was over, the U.S. losses were:

Casualties
USA: 218 KIA, 364 WIA.
USN: 2,008 KIA, 710 WIA.
USMC: 109 KIA, 69 WIA.
CIVILIANS: 68 KIA, 35 WIA.
TOTAL: 2,403 KIA, 1,178 WIA.
PEARL HARBOR KIA CASUALTY LISTING - REMEMBER THEM!
Battleships
USS Arizona (BB-39) - total loss when a bomb hit her magazine.
USS Oklahoma (BB-37) - Total loss, capsized and sunk in the harbor
USS California (BB-44) - Sunk at her berth. Later raised and repaired.
USS West Virginia (BB-48) - Sunk at her berth. Later raised and repaired.
USS Nevada - (BB-36) Beached to prevent sinking. Later repaired.
USS Pennsylvania (BB-38) - Light damage.
USS Maryland (BB-46)! - Light damage.
USS Tennessee (BB-43) Light damage.
USS Utah (AG-16) - (former battleship used as a target) - Sunk.​
Cruisers
USS New Orleans (CA-32) - Light Damage.
USS San Francisco (CA38) - Light Damage.
USS Detroit (CL-8) - Light Damage.
USS Raleigh (CL-7) - Heavily damaged but repaired.
USS Helena (CL-50) - Light Damage.
USS Honolulu (CL-48) - Light Damage..​
Destroyers
USS Downes (DD-375) - Destroyed. Parts salvaged.
USS Cassin - (DD-372) Destroyed. Parts salvaged.
USS Shaw (DD-373) - Very heavy damage.
USS Helm (DD-388) - Light Damage..​
Minelayer
USS Ogala (CM-4) - Sunk but later raised and repaired.​
Seaplane Tender
USS Curtiss (AV-4 ) - Severely damaged but later repaired.​
Repair Ship
USS Vestal (AR-4) - Severely damaged but later repaired..​
Harbor Tug
USS Sotoyomo (YT-9) - Sunk but later raised and repaired..​
Aircraft
188 Aircraft destroyed (96 USN and 92 U.S. Army Air Corps.).​
Japanese Losses
Total Japanese aircraft losses were light, only 29 planes, nine of them in the first wave. The second attack wave, arriving over targets that were alert and intensely motivated, faced much heavier anti-aircraft fire and lost twenty of its number. Several of the downed planes fell in or near Pearl Harbor or the other targets and were recovered for technical examination, as was one "Zero" fighter that crash landed on a remote island in the Hawaiian group. These provided U.S. intelligence with its first close-up look at the new enemy's latest aerial equipment.


For a comprehensive study of the causes and events leading to the Pearl Harbor Raid and the source of these pictures visit this link ~~
NAVAL HISTORICAL CENTER – PEARL HARBOR RAID
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-1815 years later and the world, our nation and our leaders still have not learned that war has no winners, a terrible waste of young men and resources.
It’s interesting to note that our founders warned against maintaining standing armies at all, both because of the taxes required to do so and the threats to liberty posed by a permanent military.
Consider the words of James Madison, often considered the father of the Constitution:
“A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home…”
Madison continues:
“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few..... No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.”

When will mankind learn that it is as impossible for peace to come by waging war as it is impossible for love to come by hating? The only fruit of war is war and any seeming peace is but a TRUCE OF FEAR BETWEEN WARS.



The Navy Hymn
**( Certain articles in this thread are compiled from various
public domain sources.' Intended solely as informative
and subjects to reflect on.) ®
 
I've been a Revolutionary of sorts and a political activist,now retired, mostly tired,for many years.

I am sickened by the number of people who end up in handcuffs, their vehicles impounded.

All because they label themselves Traveler's. And as such do not obtain driving license,or insurance.

This grave error is because they believe the misinformation that circulates on the Web now. And has for decades.

🇺🇸🦅There is no such thing as a Sovereign Citizen!

Look each word up. SC is an oxymoron.
 
Is the OP and follow-up post valid, credible?

Compiled using my files and AI's draft. Like I said,I'm tired.
Tired of information peddling designed to stroke passions through the composition and dissemination of falsehoods.

Revolutions resulting in positive affects do not root themselves in lies and deceit. Indeed,such tactics make the Revolutionaries no more superior in ethics and national vision than those they intend to overcome.

Start) Is the OP and follow-up post valid,credible?


No, these arguments do not hold any valid legal merit in a court of law.


While the text quotes real historical sources, it combines them incorrectly to form a legally invalid conclusion. United States courts at both the state and federal levels uniformly reject these arguments, often classifying them as legally frivolous. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Here is why these points lack legal validity under established law:

1. Misapplication of "Fraud Vitiates All"
The premise that "fraud voids everything" cannot be used to escape general statutory laws, taxes, or criminal statutes.
  • The Error: The text implies that because certain government actions or modern statutes might be viewed as unfair or deceptive ("constructive fraud"), the entire authority of public officials or the court system is voided. [1, 2, 3]
  • The Reality: In American jurisprudence, fraud is a specific civil tort or a criminal offense that must be proven with precise elements (such as a specific material misrepresentation relied upon by a specific victim). It cannot be used as a blanket political or philosophical argument to dissolve a citizen's legal obligations to the state. [1, 2, 3]

2. Misunderstanding of Treason
The text claims that public officials commit "treason" by administering laws that the author believes violate the Constitution. [1]
  • The Error: This uses a colloquial or emotional definition of treason rather than the legal one.
  • The Reality: Treason is the only crime specifically defined inside the text of the U.S. Constitution. Article III, Section 3 states that treason against the United States consists only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. Disagreements over policy, statutory interpretation, or governance do not legally qualify as treason. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

3. Individual vs. Judicial Review
The text uses Alexander Hamilton’s Federalist No. 78 to argue that unconstitutional acts are void. [1, 2]
  • The Error: The argument assumes that individual citizens have the legal authority to personally declare a statute void and refuse to obey it.
  • The Reality: While Hamilton correctly stated that unconstitutional laws are void, the U.S. constitutional system dictates that only the judiciary has the authority to officially declare a law unconstitutional. Until a competent court strikes a law down, it remains valid and binding. [1, 2, 3]
 
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**'I normally don't indulge in politics, but this guy, I am sure is not
what this country needs. Him and too many others have managed to
boldly infiltrate their ideologies into the political arena, and the really disturbing
fact is, too many have elected to vote them in, which lies the big underlying problem
that has and is gathering momentum.


' Instead of launching direct military strikes, patient adversaries focus on ideological subversion.
The goal is to gradually shift the cultural, educational, and political values of a nation
over 15 to 20 years—the time it takes to educate a single generation.

'Bent on "changing America" with earnest began in 2008, and has escalated to what
is being witnessed today. The "adversary" can and will "smooth talk" their way into
the very heart and soul of our "communities" of known humanitarian efforts to help the "downtrodden".
The nations compassion and empathy have surely been compromised. And "society is vulnerable to the adversary's hidden agenda".

** ( This narrative in part from Internet resources.
Also, personal observation and opinion do exist in this article)
 
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**'I normally don't indulge in politics, but this guy, I am sure is not
what this country needs. Him and too many others have managed to
boldly infiltrate their ideologies into the political arena, and the really disturbing
fact is, too many have elected to vote them in, which lies the big underlying problem
that has and is gathering momentum.


' Instead of launching direct military strikes, patient adversaries focus on ideological subversion.
The goal is to gradually shift the cultural, educational, and political values of a nation
over 15 to 20 years—the time it takes to educate a single generation.

'Bent on "changing America" with earnest began in 2008, and has escalated to what
is being witnessed today. The "adversary" can and will "smooth talk" their way into
the very heart and soul of our "communities" of known humanitarian efforts to help the "downtrodden".
The nations compassion and empathy have surely been compromised. And "society is vulnerable to the adversary's hidden agenda".

** ( This narrative in part from Internet resources.
Also, personal observation and opinion do exist in this article)
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True. The Adversary is active like never before. His recruits are everywhere. Especially the media.
Precisely! Facebook "media" closed my account for "integrity" issues, whatever that means.
Have used F/B for several years, and I believe this had happened to many.
 
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For sure. One of my better decisions.

Mine too.

When I got born again the first thing the Lord delivered me from was the need to get intoxicated which I had been doing with alcohol and various illicit drugs.

Many today think a person can do intoxication and still be saved. They do err.