Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

[Revelation1v8]

You said: "And your questions about “who restrains sin,” “who judges Israel,” “who handles earthly duties,” and “what Jesus does for 1,000 years” only expose the problem: your system requires answers Scripture never gives, because Revelation 20 never describes mortals living, sinning, repopulating, or needing judges during the millennium — it describes the souls of martyrs reigning with Christ, Satan restrained, and then Satan released for a final deception before judgment."

Your system says to ignore scripture. While Revelation 20 doesn't describe what happens during the 1,000 years doesn't mean that the Old Testament and specifically, Isaiah, should be ignored and erased. Especially after Jesus specifically told His disciples that He must fulfill ALL THINGS THAT WERE WRITTEN in the Old Testament.

You said: "The release isn’t a mystery; Paul already explains it in 2 Thess 2: evil reaches its final, climactic outbreak before Christ destroys it. The restraint isn’t Jesus “waiting in heaven”; it’s the same restraint Paul describes in 2 Thess 2:6–7, the sovereign limitation of satanic deception during the gospel age."

So, in your view, evil reaches its peak before Christ returns to judge all of the people and destroy the earth. Yet the Bible tells us that there is a time of peace where people will know who Jesus is and they will go about life living in righteousness, but still sinning, dying, and repopulating. How do they get to that point before Jesus' Second Coming?

 

[OMC]

So, in your view, evil reaches its peak before Christ returns to judge all of the people and destroy the earth. Yet the Bible tells us that there is a time of peace where people will know who Jesus is and they will go about life living in righteousness, but still sinning, dying, and repopulating. How do they get to that point before Jesus' Second Coming?

The “peaceful era of sinning, dying, and repopulating” never happens because it exists only in your stitched‑together OT literalism, while the NT says the world goes from lawlessness → Christ’s appearing → judgment, with no pre‑return utopia for mortals to stroll around in righteousness before the King arrives.

 

[Revelation1v8]

While I am more with you then not, I do not agree with you on the millennium. I believe as the Jews believed that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years refers to creation. The Jews in the Talmud believe that there two thousand years of chaos, two thousand years of Law, and two thousand years of the Messiah, and then the thousand years of rest. In second Peter three Peter speaks of the scoffers saying where is the Messiah. So Peter takes them back to the first day of creation, and in that context, Peter says, one day is as a thousand years. Now the Jews were not referencing Peter, for sure, when they stated there was a thousand years of rest appointed.

There could be no rest with natural born humans in it, nor with Satan in it either. God will give the earth her rest that she was denied for six thousand years. Revelation clearly shows us that the remnant is killed also.

I'll ask you the same thing that I did OMC, how do you see that happening and unfolding? I really want to be able to follow your train of thought. How does Ezekiel and Isaiah become fulfilled to fit into this equation? How do we come to a period of peace where people will live to be hundreds of years old and all knowing Jesus if it's not AFTER His Second Coming?

 

[Revelation1v8]

The “peaceful era of sinning, dying, and repopulating” never happens because it exists only in your stitched‑together OT literalism, while the NT says the world goes from lawlessness → Christ’s appearing → judgment, with no pre‑return utopia for mortals to stroll around in righteousness before the King arrives.

In order for you to say that a peaceful era never happens on earth, you have to totally ignore HUGE amounts of scripture. People won't be going back to living hundreds of years old in Isaiah 65 just to die in Heaven.

 

[tttallison]

Syncretism is mixing religions, accommodation is entering someone’s cultural space to preach Christ, and the disciples’ continued temple participation before 70 AD wasn’t hybrid worship but a transitional overlap: the old covenant was “obsolete and growing old” (Heb 8:13) yet not historically removed, so they operated inside a still‑standing system while preaching a gospel that declared it non‑binding.
Paul tells you exactly why he did it — accommodation, not covenant loyalty — and nothing about shaving his head or joining purification rites resembles Marian devotion or pagan fusion.
The apostles weren’t practicing syncretism; they were navigating the last breaths of a covenant God was about to terminate, not modeling a future return of Levitical worship

Disagree that there was a transitional overlap. The transition was abrupt.

"Our Rabbis taught: during the last forty years before the destruction of the Temple, the lot for the Lord <em>(on Yom Kippur)</em> did not come up in the right hand; nor did the crimson-colored strap become white (on the neck of the scapegoat); nor did the western-most light shine; and the doors of the Hekal <em>(Temple)</em> would open by themselves." <strong>[Babylonian Talmud, Yoma, 39b] </strong>

 

[OMC]

In order for you to say that a peaceful era never happens on earth, you have to totally ignore HUGE amounts of scripture. People won't be going back to living hundreds of years old in Isaiah 65 just to die in Heaven.

I’m not ignoring Isaiah; I’m refusing to pretend Isaiah 65’s poetic long‑life imagery overrides the NT’s explicit timeline where death is abolished at Christ’s return, not stretched into a thousand‑year mortality era, so the only way your “peaceful age of dying at 100” exists is if you let OT poetry cancel death_abolished and judgment_at_appearing, which the NT never allows.

 

[OMC]

Disagree that there was a transitional overlap. The transition was abrupt.

"Our Rabbis taught: during the last forty years before the destruction of the Temple, the lot for the Lord <em>(on Yom Kippur)</em> did not come up in the right hand; nor did the crimson-colored strap become white (on the neck of the scapegoat); nor did the western-most light shine; and the doors of the Hekal <em>(Temple)</em> would open by themselves." <strong>[Babylonian Talmud, Yoma, 39b] </strong>

Quoting Yoma 39b to prove the transition was “abrupt” is like quoting a weather report to rewrite Hebrews — the Talmud is describing Jewish perception of divine displeasure, not the Christian covenantal status Paul and Hebrews actually teach; Hebrews 8:13 says the old covenant was “obsolete and growing old,” not “instantly vaporized in AD 30,” and Acts shows the apostles still operating within a still‑standing temple while preaching a gospel that declared its rituals non‑binding.
The Talmud’s “last forty years” signs don’t prove the covenant ended abruptly; they prove the Jews noticed something was wrong long before the building fell — which is exactly what you’d expect in a transitional overlap where the system is theologically dead but historically present.
If you want to use Yoma 39b as your theological anchor, you’ll have to explain why you trust post‑biblical rabbinic tradition more than the NT’s own explanation of how and when the covenant ended.

 

[Revelation1v8]

Syncretism is mixing religions, accommodation is entering someone’s cultural space to preach Christ, and the disciples’ continued temple participation before 70 AD wasn’t hybrid worship but a transitional overlap: the old covenant was “obsolete and growing old” (Heb 8:13) yet not historically removed, so they operated inside a still‑standing system while preaching a gospel that declared it non‑binding.
Paul tells you exactly why he did it — accommodation, not covenant loyalty — and nothing about shaving his head or joining purification rites resembles Marian devotion or pagan fusion.
The apostles weren’t practicing syncretism; they were navigating the last breaths of a covenant God was about to terminate, not modeling a future return of Levitical worship

You said: "The apostles weren’t practicing syncretism; they were navigating the last breaths of a covenant God was about to terminate, not modeling a future return of Levitical worship."

According to you previously, the covenant was terminated immediately upon Christ's fulfillment on the cross to never return. But it did continue on and the sacrifices didn't stop until 70 AD when the temple was destroyed. While Jesus made a New Testament & Covenant at the time of His crucifixion through way of the Holy Spirit, that doesn't mean that God/Jesus/Holy Spirit won't reveal themselves together on earth like Zechariah 14:9 says He will. Jesus returns with a new name to reign over the earth. The Bible doesn't say that we're only privy to this understanding once we all get to heaven. How do you believe that happens?

 

[OMC]

You said: "The apostles weren’t practicing syncretism; they were navigating the last breaths of a covenant God was about to terminate, not modeling a future return of Levitical worship."

According to you previously, the covenant was terminated immediately upon Christ's fulfillment on the cross to never return. But it did continue on and the sacrifices didn't stop until 70 AD when the temple was destroyed. While Jesus made a New Testament & Covenant at the time of His crucifixion through way of the Holy Spirit, that doesn't mean that God/Jesus/Holy Spirit won't reveal themselves together on earth like Zechariah 14:9 says He will. Jesus returns with a new name to reign over the earth. The Bible doesn't say that we're only privy to this understanding once we all get to heaven. How do you believe that happens?

You’re trying to rescue your millennium by treating “the covenant was historically present until 70 AD” as if that means “the covenant was spiritually operative until 70 AD,” but Hebrews doesn’t care when the priests stopped sacrificing — it says the covenant was terminated at the cross, rendered obsolete, and was only “ready to vanish away” because the building still stood (Heb 8:13), not because God was secretly keeping it alive for your future kingdom; the apostles participated in temple rites the same way Paul circumcised Timothy — accommodation, not covenant loyalty.
And invoking Zechariah 14:9 as proof that Jesus “returns with a new name to reign on earth” ignores the NT’s own interpretation: Zechariah’s “the LORD will be king over all the earth” is fulfilled in Christ’s exaltation (Acts 2:33–36), not in a future mortal civilization where people sin, die, and repopulate under a resurrected King.
The NT never says Jesus will reveal Himself on earth before abolishing death; it says when He appears, He destroys all enemies, abolishes death, judges the world, and hands the kingdom to the Father — no interim era, no revived Levitical system, no mortal population living under a divine monarchy.
If you want a future earthly reign with sin, death, and temple liturgy, you’ll have to explain how it coexists with death_abolished, judgment_at_appearing, and old_covenant_obsolete — because the NT doesn’t leave you the space to build the kingdom you’re imagining.

 

[Revelation1v8]

I’m not ignoring Isaiah; I’m refusing to pretend Isaiah 65’s poetic long‑life imagery overrides the NT’s explicit timeline where death is abolished at Christ’s return, not stretched into a thousand‑year mortality era, so the only way your “peaceful age of dying at 100” exists is if you let OT poetry cancel death_abolished and judgment_at_appearing, which the NT never allows.

And I refuse to accept that the New Testament deletes and erases a HUGE amount of Old Testament scripture. The level of detail given in Isaiah, Ezekiel and the Psalms shouldn't be written off as "poetry". It's prophecy. And Jesus said He would FULFILL IT ALL in Luke 24:44. There would be no reason for that much detail to be written into the Old Testament if it wasn't meant to materialize.

Like I've said before, unless you can explain IN SPECIFIC DETAIL how all of that prophecy is purely symbolic, your words and opinion are sounding pretty empty.

 

[OMC]

And I refuse to accept that the New Testament deletes and erases a HUGE amount of Old Testament scripture. The level of detail given in Isaiah, Ezekiel and the Psalms shouldn't be written off as "poetry". It's prophecy. And Jesus said He would FULFILL IT ALL in Luke 24:44. There would be no reason for that much detail to be written into the Old Testament if it wasn't meant to materialize.

Like I've said before, unless you can explain IN SPECIFIC DETAIL how all of that prophecy is purely symbolic, your words and opinion are sounding pretty empty.

Jesus in Luke 24:44 doesn’t say, “All this detail will materialize as a future Jewish‑style kingdom with temple liturgy and people dying at 100.”
He says “all things…must be fulfilled” and then immediately walks them through how Moses, the Prophets, and the Psalms are fulfilled in His suffering, death, and resurrection—not in a millennial zoning plan.

Isaiah, Ezekiel, and the Psalms are prophecy, yes—but prophecy in a typological, Christ‑centered key:

Isaiah’s restoration language is used by the NT for new creation, gospel age, and final state, not a halfway house where people still die.
Ezekiel’s temple is never re‑instituted in the NT; instead, the NT calls Christ, the church, and the Spirit‑indwelt people the true temple.
Psalms’ kingship and Zion are applied to Christ’s present reign and the heavenly Jerusalem, not a future mortal monarchy.

You’re demanding “specific detail” for how every OT image is symbolic, but Scripture already gives you the hermeneutic:
Luke 24, Hebrews, 1 Peter, Revelation all show OT categories being fulfilled, transposed, and intensified in Christ, not copy‑pasted into a future millennium.

The irony? You accuse me of “empty words” unless I can diagram every symbol, while your system adds an entire era—mortals, sin, death, temple, judges—that the NT never once describes, then calls that “taking all prophecy.”

If you really want to honor “fulfill it all,” you have to let Christ and the apostles tell you how it’s fulfilled, not force Isaiah and Ezekiel to overrule death abolished and judgment at His appearing so your charts have somewhere to live.

 

[Revelation1v8]

You’re trying to rescue your millennium by treating “the covenant was historically present until 70 AD” as if that means “the covenant was spiritually operative until 70 AD,” but Hebrews doesn’t care when the priests stopped sacrificing — it says the covenant was terminated at the cross, rendered obsolete, and was only “ready to vanish away” because the building still stood (Heb 8:13), not because God was secretly keeping it alive for your future kingdom; the apostles participated in temple rites the same way Paul circumcised Timothy — accommodation, not covenant loyalty.
And invoking Zechariah 14:9 as proof that Jesus “returns with a new name to reign on earth” ignores the NT’s own interpretation: Zechariah’s “the LORD will be king over all the earth” is fulfilled in Christ’s exaltation (Acts 2:33–36), not in a future mortal civilization where people sin, die, and repopulate under a resurrected King.
The NT never says Jesus will reveal Himself on earth before abolishing death; it says when He appears, He destroys all enemies, abolishes death, judges the world, and hands the kingdom to the Father — no interim era, no revived Levitical system, no mortal population living under a divine monarchy.
If you want a future earthly reign with sin, death, and temple liturgy, you’ll have to explain how it coexists with death_abolished, judgment_at_appearing, and old_covenant_obsolete — because the NT doesn’t leave you the space to build the kingdom you’re imagining.

You said: "You’re trying to rescue your millennium by treating “the covenant was historically present until 70 AD” as if that means “the covenant was spiritually operative until 70 AD,” but Hebrews doesn’t care when the priests stopped sacrificing — it says the covenant was terminated at the cross, rendered obsolete, and was only “ready to vanish away” because the building still stood (Heb 8:13), not because God was secretly keeping it alive for your future kingdom; the apostles participated in temple rites the same way Paul circumcised Timothy — accommodation, not covenant loyalty."

I think if you read the New Testament again, you'll see that Jesus said He didn't come to destroy the law, but to fulfill it. But He also said that not one jot or tittle written in His word would pass away until heaven and earth passed away. The only way both hold true is if the law isn't totally destroyed until heaven and earth pass away. I believe the Jews are going to have to relive the law in the way God/Jesus originally intended.

Based on what I just said above, we can't take huge amounts of scripture and just throw them away. We have to piece them together to make them all fit and reconcile with each other.

 

[OMC]

You said: "You’re trying to rescue your millennium by treating “the covenant was historically present until 70 AD” as if that means “the covenant was spiritually operative until 70 AD,” but Hebrews doesn’t care when the priests stopped sacrificing — it says the covenant was terminated at the cross, rendered obsolete, and was only “ready to vanish away” because the building still stood (Heb 8:13), not because God was secretly keeping it alive for your future kingdom; the apostles participated in temple rites the same way Paul circumcised Timothy — accommodation, not covenant loyalty."

I think if you read the New Testament again, you'll see that Jesus said He didn't come to destroy the law, but to fulfill it. But He also said that not one jot or tittle written in His word would pass away until heaven and earth passed away. The only way both hold true is if the law isn't totally destroyed until heaven and earth pass away. I believe the Jews are going to have to relive the law in the way God/Jesus originally intended.

Based on what I just said above, we can't take huge amounts of scripture and just throw them away. We have to piece them together to make them all fit and reconcile with each other.

Your entire argument hinges on treating Jesus’ “not one jot or tittle will pass until heaven and earth pass away” as if He meant “the Mosaic covenant must continue literally until the physical universe dissolves,” when He Himself explains the opposite two verses later:
“I have come to fulfill” — not perpetuate — and the NT repeatedly says that fulfillment ends the covenant’s legal force (Heb 7:12; 8:13; 10:1–18), not preserves it for a future reenactment; the law doesn’t “pass away” when heaven and earth pass, it reaches its telos in Christ, and once fulfilled, it no longer governs God’s people even if the physical cosmos still stands.
You keep insisting the Jews must “relive the law” because you can’t imagine OT prophecy being fulfilled in Christ without being re‑literalized in a future millennium, but the NT gives you the hermeneutic you refuse to use:
Christ fulfills the Law and the Prophets in His first coming, cross, resurrection, ascension, and kingdom, not by resurrecting a system Hebrews calls “obsolete.” And no, we don’t “throw away huge amounts of Scripture”; we let the NT interpret the OT instead of forcing Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Psalms to overrule old_covenant_obsolete, death_abolished, and judgment_at_appearing.
The only reason you think everything must “materialize” is because your system demands a future Jewish‑style kingdom the NT never describes; Scripture doesn’t need you to “piece it together,” it needs you to stop stitching a millennium out of OT imagery the apostles already told you how to read.

 

[Revelation1v8]

Jesus in Luke 24:44 doesn’t say, “All this detail will materialize as a future Jewish‑style kingdom with temple liturgy and people dying at 100.”
He says “all things…must be fulfilled” and then immediately walks them through how Moses, the Prophets, and the Psalms are fulfilled in His suffering, death, and resurrection—not in a millennial zoning plan.

Isaiah, Ezekiel, and the Psalms are prophecy, yes—but prophecy in a typological, Christ‑centered key:

Isaiah’s restoration language is used by the NT for new creation, gospel age, and final state, not a halfway house where people still die.
Ezekiel’s temple is never re‑instituted in the NT; instead, the NT calls Christ, the church, and the Spirit‑indwelt people the true temple.
Psalms’ kingship and Zion are applied to Christ’s present reign and the heavenly Jerusalem, not a future mortal monarchy.

You’re demanding “specific detail” for how every OT image is symbolic, but Scripture already gives you the hermeneutic:
Luke 24, Hebrews, 1 Peter, Revelation all show OT categories being fulfilled, transposed, and intensified in Christ, not copy‑pasted into a future millennium.

The irony? You accuse me of “empty words” unless I can diagram every symbol, while your system adds an entire era—mortals, sin, death, temple, judges—that the NT never once describes, then calls that “taking all prophecy.”

If you really want to honor “fulfill it all,” you have to let Christ and the apostles tell you how it’s fulfilled, not force Isaiah and Ezekiel to overrule death abolished and judgment at His appearing so your charts have somewhere to live.

You said: "The irony? You accuse me of “empty words” unless I can diagram every symbol, while your system adds an entire era—mortals, sin, death, temple, judges—that the NT never once describes, then calls that “taking all prophecy.”

Revelation 11 mentions a temple and Revelation 7:15 says:

15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

Believers won't be serving God day and night in the New Jerusalem because there is no difference between day or night in the New Jerusalem.

 

[OMC]

You said: "The irony? You accuse me of “empty words” unless I can diagram every symbol, while your system adds an entire era—mortals, sin, death, temple, judges—that the NT never once describes, then calls that “taking all prophecy.”

Revelation 11 mentions a temple and Revelation 7:15 says:

15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

Believers won't be serving God day and night in the New Jerusalem because there is no difference between day or night in the New Jerusalem

Revelation 7:15 doesn’t give you a mortal, sin‑and‑die millennium with a functioning earthly temple; it gives you resurrected saints in heaven, serving God “day and night” in His heavenly temple, the same one Revelation repeatedly locates in heaven, not on earth (Rev 11:19; 14:17; 15:5), and your “but New Jerusalem has no night!” objection only proves you’re mixing categories — Revelation 7 is before the descent of New Jerusalem, not inside it.
Revelation 11’s “temple” is the same symbolic temple Revelation uses everywhere else — the measured people of God, not Ezekiel’s architectural blueprint — and nothing in either passage gives you a future earthly sanctuary where mortals live long lives, sin, die, and repopulate under Jesus.
You keep trying to force the NT to produce a kingdom it never describes, but Revelation’s own structure won’t cooperate: heavenly temple now, Christ’s appearing destroys His enemies, death abolished, New Jerusalem descends, no night, no death, no temple (Rev 21:22).
The only way your millennium survives is if you let OT imagery overrule the NT’s explicit eschatology — which is exactly why your system keeps inventing an era Revelation never mentions

 

[Revelation1v8]

Your entire argument hinges on treating Jesus’ “not one jot or tittle will pass until heaven and earth pass away” as if He meant “the Mosaic covenant must continue literally until the physical universe dissolves,” when He Himself explains the opposite two verses later:
“I have come to fulfill” — not perpetuate — and the NT repeatedly says that fulfillment ends the covenant’s legal force (Heb 7:12; 8:13; 10:1–18), not preserves it for a future reenactment; the law doesn’t “pass away” when heaven and earth pass, it reaches its telos in Christ, and once fulfilled, it no longer governs God’s people even if the physical cosmos still stands.
You keep insisting the Jews must “relive the law” because you can’t imagine OT prophecy being fulfilled in Christ without being re‑literalized in a future millennium, but the NT gives you the hermeneutic you refuse to use:
Christ fulfills the Law and the Prophets in His first coming, cross, resurrection, ascension, and kingdom, not by resurrecting a system Hebrews calls “obsolete.” And no, we don’t “throw away huge amounts of Scripture”; we let the NT interpret the OT instead of forcing Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Psalms to overrule old_covenant_obsolete, death_abolished, and judgment_at_appearing.
The only reason you think everything must “materialize” is because your system demands a future Jewish‑style kingdom the NT never describes; Scripture doesn’t need you to “piece it together,” it needs you to stop stitching a millennium out of OT imagery the apostles already told you how to read.

You said: "Your entire argument hinges on treating Jesus’ “not one jot or tittle will pass until heaven and earth pass away” as if He meant “the Mosaic covenant must continue literally until the physical universe dissolves,” when He Himself explains the opposite two verses later:"

Hello?! What exactly do you think Israel is doing right now? Remember, Israel doesn't currently acknowledge Jesus or His fulfillment of the law, but a time will come when they do (Zechariah 13:1) and that's when the era of peace comes in.

 

[OMC]

You said: "Your entire argument hinges on treating Jesus’ “not one jot or tittle will pass until heaven and earth pass away” as if He meant “the Mosaic covenant must continue literally until the physical universe dissolves,” when He Himself explains the opposite two verses later:"

Hello?! What exactly do you think Israel is doing right now? Remember, Israel doesn't currently acknowledge Jesus or His fulfillment of the law, but a time will come when they do (Zechariah 13:1) and that's when the era of peace comes in.

Israel’s present unbelief doesn’t magically resurrect the Mosaic covenant; Paul says their unbelief proves the opposite — they are still under the veil (2 Cor 3:14–16), not under a still‑operative law waiting to be rebooted.
The fact that modern Israel practices some Torah customs is not evidence of covenant continuity; it’s evidence of covenant rejection. Hebrews doesn’t say, “The covenant remains until Israel accepts Jesus,” it says the covenant was terminated at the cross, rendered obsolete, and only “ready to vanish away” because the building still stood (Heb 8:13). Zechariah 13:1 doesn’t give you a future Mosaic reboot; it gives you a fountain for sin and uncleanness, which the NT explicitly identifies as Christ’s atoning work, not a return to Levitical administration.
Your “era of peace” requires Israel to re‑enter a covenant God already ended, re‑build a temple God already replaced, and re‑start sacrifices Christ already fulfilled — all so your system can keep a millennium the NT never once describes.

 

[tttallison]

I'll ask you the same thing that I did OMC, how do you see that happening and unfolding? I really want to be able to follow your train of thought. How does Ezekiel and Isaiah become fulfilled to fit into this equation? How do we come to a period of peace where people will live to be hundreds of years old and all knowing Jesus if it's not AFTER His Second Coming?

Paul said the Jews would be blinded until the time of the Gentiles was fulfilled. I believe that time will be the harvest of the wheat and the tares. I believe the age of the Jew as pertaining to the law ended when Christ was crucified. That is why Paul said there is neither Jew nor Gentile, we are all one in Christ, and that is true for us in the age of the Gentile. But when the age of the Gentile is complete God will again deal with the Jew, and fulfill all his promises. The only place at that time that you will find a Jew will be in the earth, not on it.

There was the age of pre-flood, then there was post-flood, then the age of the law, then the age of the Gentile, and then the earth is given a rest. I believe Revelation expresses it this way, peace during the partition of ages, or silence in Heaven for half an hour. The Hebrew allows for either interpretation. The two root Hebrew words for half an hour can be interpreted as partition of time, or ages. That it is a thousand years is not expressed, but I feel sure that it is implied.

Ezekiel is the key, but the storyline is completed in many books. The resurrection in Ezekiel 37 is literal. The first time we here of God and Magog is in Ezekiel 38-39, and then after the millennium in Revelation 20. God is going to fulfill his promises to Israel, all of them. The people of the Northern Kingdom of Israel, and the Southern Kingdom of Judah are in the ground right now, and Revelation20 speaks of the dead being resurrected. Ezekiel said they would be resurrected and become one again. The promise of the New Covenant pertains to both kingdoms, and will be fulfilled when they are resurrected. The Gentiles will be subservient to the Jew and will be glad for the opportunity.

Details I am short on, but this is what I see.

 

[Revelation1v8]

Revelation 7:15 doesn’t give you a mortal, sin‑and‑die millennium with a functioning earthly temple; it gives you resurrected saints in heaven, serving God “day and night” in His heavenly temple, the same one Revelation repeatedly locates in heaven, not on earth (Rev 11:19; 14:17; 15:5), and your “but New Jerusalem has no night!” objection only proves you’re mixing categories — Revelation 7 is before the descent of New Jerusalem, not inside it.
Revelation 11’s “temple” is the same symbolic temple Revelation uses everywhere else — the measured people of God, not Ezekiel’s architectural blueprint — and nothing in either passage gives you a future earthly sanctuary where mortals live long lives, sin, die, and repopulate under Jesus.
You keep trying to force the NT to produce a kingdom it never describes, but Revelation’s own structure won’t cooperate: heavenly temple now, Christ’s appearing destroys His enemies, death abolished, New Jerusalem descends, no night, no death, no temple (Rev 21:22).
The only way your millennium survives is if you let OT imagery overrule the NT’s explicit eschatology — which is exactly why your system keeps inventing an era Revelation never mentions

You said: "Revelation 7:15 doesn’t give you a mortal, sin‑and‑die millennium with a functioning earthly temple; it gives you resurrected saints in heaven, serving God “day and night” in His heavenly temple, the same one Revelation repeatedly locates in heaven, not on earth (Rev 11:19; 14:17; 15:5), and your “but New Jerusalem has no night!” objection only proves you’re mixing categories — Revelation 7 is before the descent of New Jerusalem, not inside it."

LOL! How am I mixing categories? The only thing you did in your argument above was contradict yourself. First you said that people were serving God "day and night" in His "heavenly temple". Then you said Revelation 7:15 is before the descent of the New Jerusalem, so how do you reconcile that if it's really NOT the "heavenly temple"??!!!

 

[OMC]

Paul said the Jews would be blinded until the time of the Gentiles was fulfilled. I believe that time will be the harvest of the wheat and the tares. I believe the age of the Jew as pertaining to the law ended when Christ was crucified. That is why Paul said there is neither Jew nor Gentile, we are all one in Christ, and that is true for us in the age of the Gentile. But when the age of the Gentile is complete God will again deal with the Jew, and fulfill all his promises. The only place at that time that you will find a Jew will be in the earth, not on it.

There was the age of pre-flood, then there was post-flood, then the age of the law, then the age of the Gentile, and then the earth is given a rest. I believe Revelation expresses it this way, peace during the partition of ages, or silence in Heaven for half an hour. The Hebrew allows for either interpretation. The two root Hebrew words for half an hour can be interpreted as partition of time, or ages. That it is a thousand years is not expressed, but I feel sure that it is implied.

Ezekiel is the key, but the storyline is completed in many books. The resurrection in Ezekiel 37 is literal. The first time we here of God and Magog is in Ezekiel 38-39, and then after the millennium in Revelation 20. God is going to fulfill his promises to Israel, all of them. The people of the Northern Kingdom of Israel, and the Southern Kingdom of Judah are in the ground right now, and Revelation20 speaks of the dead being resurrected. Ezekiel said they would be resurrected and become one again. The promise of the New Covenant pertains to both kingdoms, and will be fulfilled when they are resurrected. The Gentiles will be subservient to the Jew and will be glad for the opportunity.

Details I am short on, but this is what I see

Your entire framework is a theological Jenga tower built out of ages you invented, resurrections Ezekiel never teaches, a millennium Revelation never describes, and a future Mosaic reboot Hebrews explicitly forbids; Paul doesn’t say “the Jews will be blinded until the Gentile age ends and then God reinstates the law,” he says their blindness lifts when they turn to Christ (2 Cor 3:16), not when God resurrects them into a Levitical kingdom where Gentiles happily serve them.
Your “ages” (pre‑flood, post‑flood, law, Gentile, earth‑rest) are not biblical categories — they’re dispensational fan‑fiction — and your claim that Revelation’s “half an hour of silence” is actually “a partition of ages” is pure linguistic gymnastics, not exegesis.
Ezekiel 37 is not a literal resurrection of two ancient kingdoms so they can run a future Jewish empire; the NT applies Israel’s resurrection language to the church’s regeneration (Eph 2:5–6), not to a future geopolitical nation.
Gog and Magog appear twice because Revelation uses Ezekiel typologically, not because God is scheduling two literal invasions for your timeline.
And your finale — “Gentiles will be subservient to the Jew and glad for the opportunity” — is exactly why your system collapses: it requires a future hierarchy the NT obliterates when it says “there is neither Jew nor Greek… you are all one in Christ Jesus”. If this is “what you see,” fine — but what you’re seeing isn’t Scripture; it’s a patchwork kingdom stitched together from OT imagery the apostles already told you how to read.