Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

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You have the wedding, you have the judgment, you have the end of the beast and the false prophet, you have the dragon locked up for a thousand years, you have the first resurrection, and you have the end of all living humanity that was not invited to the wedding. The only ones left on the earth are the dead who were not written in the book of life.

What think you?
 
You have the wedding, you have the judgment, you have the end of the beast and the false prophet, you have the dragon locked up for a thousand years, you have the first resurrection, and you have the end of all living humanity that was not invited to the wedding. The only ones left on the earth are the dead who were not written in the book of life.

What think you?


Children too young to take the mark, and other people who didn't take the mark who managed to hide (maybe by God).


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Why do you believe all flesh dies in the goings on in Revelation 19?


(Matthew 24:21-22) "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. {22} And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened."

So the above verses talking about the great tribulation states that IF those days where not shortened No flesh would be saved.. But for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.. Therefore not all flesh shall be destroyed on earth during the great tribulation..


(Revelation 19:15) "And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God."

The above verse talks of the returning Jesus.. And yeah He will be ending the lives of a lot of people at the battle of Armageddon. But the verse also states He is going to RULE then with a Rod of Iron.. Why would He need to rule them if He has exterminated them all with the sword? Do you think He is going to rule over the resurrected Saints who take part in the first resurrection with a Rod of Iron? Or will He be ruling with an iron rod over those who are still in the flesh serving Him and the returned Saints..


(Revelation 20:4) "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."

So the Saints who take part in the first resurrection are Reigning with The LORD Jesus for 1000 years.. So who do you think they are Reigning over if all flesh has been eliminated? If all flesh has been eliminated then they cannot reign over anyone..

Now i will quote Jeremiah 14.. I suggest you read the whole chapter because this portion is only an example of that i am trying to convey..


(Zechariah 14:16-19) "¶ And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. {17} And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. {18} And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. {19} This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles."

Talk about ruling over them with a Rod of Iron... The above passage really looks like the KING the LORD of Hosts ruling over these people from Jerusalem with a Ron of Iron.. Of course the prophecy in Zechariah has not been fulfilled to this day. And cannot be fulfilled until the King of Kings and LORD of LORDS is ruling in Jerusalem..
 
Children too young to take the mark, and other people who didn't take the mark who managed to hide (maybe by God).


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Thank you for your reply.

Why would God not allow children to the wedding? Mat 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Can anyone hide from God? Why would God hide them?
 
Why do you believe all flesh dies in the goings on in Revelation 19?


(Matthew 24:21-22) "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. {22} And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened."

So the above verses talking about the great tribulation states that IF those days where not shortened No flesh would be saved.. But for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.. Therefore not all flesh shall be destroyed on earth during the great tribulation..


(Revelation 19:15) "And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God."

The above verse talks of the returning Jesus.. And yeah He will be ending the lives of a lot of people at the battle of Armageddon. But the verse also states He is going to RULE then with a Rod of Iron.. Why would He need to rule them if He has exterminated them all with the sword? Do you think He is going to rule over the resurrected Saints who take part in the first resurrection with a Rod of Iron? Or will He be ruling with an iron rod over those who are still in the flesh serving Him and the returned Saints..


(Revelation 20:4) "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."

So the Saints who take part in the first resurrection are Reigning with The LORD Jesus for 1000 years.. So who do you think they are Reigning over if all flesh has been eliminated? If all flesh has been eliminated then they cannot reign over anyone..

Now i will quote Jeremiah 14.. I suggest you read the whole chapter because this portion is only an example of that i am trying to convey..


(Zechariah 14:16-19) "¶ And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. {17} And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. {18} And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. {19} This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles."

Talk about ruling over them with a Rod of Iron... The above passage really looks like the KING the LORD of Hosts ruling over these people from Jerusalem with a Ron of Iron.. Of course the prophecy in Zechariah has not been fulfilled to this day. And cannot be fulfilled until the King of Kings and LORD of LORDS is ruling in Jerusalem..

Thank you for your reply.

I believe all flesh dies, because in the last verse it states that those that were not already killed were then killed.

Can you see what is happening? You have to contend with what the scripture says in order to feel comfortable with what you have been taught.

Jesus said, this generation shall not pass until all these things be fulfilled. Again, you have to alter what is said here in order to be comfortable with what you have been taught. You have to change 490 years, as found in Dan chapter nine, to 490 plus 2,000 years, then you have to alter Jesus saying this generation shall not pass away until these be fulfilled. I believe the tribulation of 70 Ad was a great tribulation, at least for the Jews, to whom this was directed.

If you look at the context of Revelation 19:15 it is pointing to death. Rule with a rod of iron does mean Jesus will be sitting as their king, but rather as their judge, Jesus will be giving them their punishment, which, in this case, is death.

Zechariah 14, in my opinion, occurs after the thousand years.
 
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You have the wedding, you have the judgment, you have the end of the beast and the false prophet, you have the dragon locked up for a thousand years, you have the first resurrection, and you have the end of all living humanity that was not invited to the wedding. The only ones left on the earth are the dead who were not written in the book of life.

What think you?
Why do you think it's called, the book of revelation?
 
Thank you for your reply.

Why would God not allow children to the wedding? Mat 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Can anyone hide from God? Why would God hide them?

Because the wedding isn't at the time you think it is?

Plus God doesn't tell us everything. God hid targetted people during WWII and helped them survive. A lot of them didn't even know Him. Quite possibly He was saving them for a future ancestor that will come to follow Him.

From how the Millennial age is described, some people will survive to populate the earth and who Lord Jesus and His people will reign over.


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Because the wedding isn't at the time you think it is?

Plus God doesn't tell us everything. God hid targetted people during WWII and helped them survive. A lot of them didn't even know Him. Quite possibly He was saving them for a future ancestor that will come to follow Him.

From how the Millennial age is described, some people will survive to populate the earth and who Lord Jesus and His people will reign over.


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The wedding in heaven during the 7 yr trib
Rev 19
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

Note the bride is in heaven and has become the wife in heaven.

Mat 25
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

Pretrib rapture TO HEAVEN, TO THE MARRIAGE CHAMBER.

Note also, I study your postrib rapture doctrine.
I have NEVER seen a postrib teacher initiate ANYTHING on the bride and groom.
I have never seen them NOT CHANGE the wedding, the virgin parable, the wedding supper, the 144,000, and Rev 20.

It is truly appalling.
 
Thank you for your reply.

I believe all flesh dies, because in the last verse it states that those that were not already killed were then killed.

Can you see what is happening? You have to contend with what the scripture says in order to feel comfortable with what you have been taught.

Jesus said, this generation shall not pass until all these things be fulfilled. Again, you have to alter what is said here in order to be comfortable with what you have been taught. You have to change 490 years, as found in Dan chapter nine, to 490 plus 2,000 years, then you have to alter Jesus saying this generation shall not pass away until these be fulfilled. I believe the tribulation of 70 Ad was a great tribulation, at least for the Jews, to whom this was directed.

If you look at the context of Revelation 19:15 it is pointing to death. Rule with a rod of iron does mean Jesus will be sitting as their king, but rather as their judge, Jesus will be giving them their punishment, which, in this case, is death.

Zechariah 14, in my opinion, occurs after the thousand years.
The battle at the second coming is local at the middle east.

Earth's population is not wiped out.
 
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The wedding in heaven during the 7 yr trib
Rev 19
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

Note the bride is in heaven and has become the wife in heaven.

Mat 25
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

Pretrib rapture TO HEAVEN, TO THE MARRIAGE CHAMBER.

Note also, I study your postrib rapture doctrine.
I have NEVER seen a postrib teacher initiate ANYTHING on the bride and groom.
I have never seen them NOT CHANGE the wedding, the virgin parable, the wedding supper, the 144,000, and Rev 20.

It is truly appalling.


You don't even have to worry about when it happens. What makes you think you're going to the wedding of Lord Jesus and His Bride? Lol!

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You don't even have to worry about when it happens. What makes you think you're going to the wedding of Lord Jesus and His Bride? Lol!

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I have no idea what you are referring to.
I am quoting verses in the bible.

Your doctrine , in my study of it, has the church never entering heaven, due to the "uturn in the sky", that postribbers invented, taking them from the sky, back to earth...never entering heaven.

Mat 25 is of course omitted where Jesus takes his bride to heaven, and the door is shut.

I have studied the wedding.
You are basically left in the dark in postrib teachers.
 
There are a ton of people here who are certain they are and their evidence is they believe it. Iron clad
Amen
Paul referred to the bride also.
We are the bride.

The bible ends with the bride and the Spirit calling out to the groom.

The parting words of heaven is of the bride and groom.
 
Amen
Paul referred to the bride also.
We are the bride.

The bible ends with the bride and the Spirit calling out to the groom.

The parting words of heaven is of the bride and groom.
I don't believe you fully grapsed what I was saying.
 
I have no idea what you are referring to.
I am quoting verses in the bible.

Your doctrine , in my study of it, has the church never entering heaven, due to the "uturn in the sky", that postribbers invented, taking them from the sky, back to earth...never entering heaven.

Mat 25 is of course omitted where Jesus takes his bride to heaven, and the door is shut.

I have studied the wedding.
You are basically left in the dark in postrib teachers.


You think your posts will turn God’s people from listening to Him, but His people know His voice and not follow you.

All you're doing is giving false hope to people who don't belong to Him. In the hardness of you heart, God has already judged you for that.

This is you:

2 Peter 2:3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.


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Because the wedding isn't at the time you think it is?

Plus God doesn't tell us everything. God hid targetted people during WWII and helped them survive. A lot of them didn't even know Him. Quite possibly He was saving them for a future ancestor that will come to follow Him.

From how the Millennial age is described, some people will survive to populate the earth and who Lord Jesus and His people will reign over.


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Isn't the bible telling us in Revelation 19 that we have the wedding and then the judgement?

It is understandable that people would question where the people would come from after the 1,000 years. Isaiah made this statement.

Isa 49:21 Then shalt thou say in thine heart, Who hath begotten me these, seeing I have lost my children, and am desolate, a captive, and removing to and fro? and who hath brought up these? Behold, I was left alone; these, where had they been?

I believe I know where the children are coming from. This is just my opinion. We are told of a second resurrection in Revelation 20, just after the 1,000 years. I believe this resurrection is the one presented to Ezekiel in Ezekiel chapter 37. Notice that in Ezekiel chapter 38 is the first time God and Magog are mentioned in the Bible. The same Gog and Magog that are mentioned in Revelation 20, which is after the 1,000 years and after the second resurrection. Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. (The first resurrection is referring to those that reign with Christ a thousand years. The rest of the dead is the second resurrection.)

Observe also that in Ezekiel 37, after the resurrection, the two kingdoms, the northern and southern kingdom, will again become one. The only place the people from those two kingdoms exist today is in the ground.
 
You think your posts will turn God’s people from listening to Him, but His people know His voice and not follow you.

All you're doing is giving false hope to people who don't belong to Him. In the hardness of you heart, God has already judged you for that.

This is you:

2 Peter 2:3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.


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More trolling accusations.
I fully understand.
No postribber can honestly debate.
Maybe a few.
But 99% will get into that nasty spirit that is in you also.
Attack attack attack.
Disty bible sits on the floor.