Applying God's Word to Politics

[ScooterJackson]

Then study the teachings of our Savior

But the false teachers tell everyone that Jesus only taught OT law to the Jews and as such we should ignore the teachings of Jesus

MAGA is moving toward God, and the Dems are moving away/toward satan.

Actually both donkeys and elephants are owned by satan and they are re affirming their commitment to the devil as each continue moving further and further way from the Lord Jesus

When the time comes both donkeys and elephants will give up the US Constitution and put the US under the control of the coming one world government and it's one world leader the anti-christ.

That's when when we see both parties working together for a common goal that politicians on both sides will be in agreement upon. In the end the joke is on anybody who believes there's answers coming from politics

 

[GWH]

But the false teachers tell everyone that Jesus only taught OT law to the Jews and as such we should ignore the teachings of Jesus



Actually both donkeys and elephants are owned by satan and they are re affirming their commitment to the devil as each continue moving further and further way from the Lord Jesus

When the time comes both donkeys and elephants will give up the US Constitution and put the US under the control of the coming one world government and it's one world leader the anti-christ.

That's when when we see both parties working together for a common goal that politicians on both sides will be in agreement upon. In the end the joke is on anybody who believes there's answers coming from politics

You obviously are ignorant about the MAGA movement; Charlie Kirk's witness for Christ was/is better than any Dem you can name.
MAGA opposes giving up the Constitution and freedom you are apathetic about, so don't blame them when it happens--only yourself.

 

[rewriter]

IMO it is the traitors trying to destroy the USA including Marxist professors who need to be tried and punished if found guilty, and illegal aliens need to be vetted and put at the end of the line behind those who are applying for citizenship the legal way.

Fraud and waste need to be eliminated ASAP, and activist judges who abet the Marxists traitors need to be eliminated.
Otherwise, I support what I have shared before, which is akin to workfare and indentureship/on-the-job training.

The ballroom may be a good idea but such expenditures need to be put on hold until the war with Iran ends and reparations are received to put our budget back in balance.

I agree that Trump is too bossy and needs to negotiate with Greenland and Canada without sounding like a dictator.

Those who love and appreciate America righty fear being subjugated by the Communists, and those who are apathetic about that prospect need to wake up before it is too late.

MAGA is moving toward God, and the Dems are moving away/toward Satan.

Freedom of speech, as enshrined in the Constitution, a document all service members vow to uphold and protect, protects the speech of university professors, no matter how much one disagrees with them, just as it protects a president claiming that he will issue dividends, or will provide all the funding for a project via donations and not use any taxpayer money, or even that some country has been so damaged that they cannot build nuclear weapons for years if not decades two times in less than two years, and still claim that they need to be prevented from the ability to develop nuclear weapons, even though he destroyed the treaty that had resolved the issue because he "could do better".

Whether the USA is in any danger of falling subject to communism is purely a matter of opinion, just as whether or not the USA is on a path to duplicate Nazi Germany. Depending on what one looks at and interprets what they see, either option is plausible. Personally, I think that the country is swinging back and forth between the two opposing extremes, but unlikely to fully land in either camp, at least not as long as we act to protect the freedoms of the press and speech, something some officials want to curtail.

 

[GWH]

Freedom of speech, as enshrined in the Constitution, a document all service members vow to uphold and protect, protects the speech of university professors, no matter how much one disagrees with them, just as it protects a president claiming that he will issue dividends, or will provide all the funding for a project via donations and not use any taxpayer money, or even that some country has been so damaged that they cannot build nuclear weapons for years if not decades two times in less than two years, and still claim that they need to be prevented from the ability to develop nuclear weapons, even though he destroyed the treaty that had resolved the issue because he "could do better".

Whether the USA is in any danger of falling subject to communism is purely a matter of opinion, just as whether or not the USA is on a path to duplicate Nazi Germany. Depending on what one looks at and interprets what they see, either option is plausible. Personally, I think that the country is swinging back and forth between the two opposing extremes, but unlikely to fully land in either camp, at least not as long as we act to protect the freedoms of the press and speech, something some officials want to curtail.

You may be okay with lying, but the Constitution has not been interpreted as allowing yelling fire in a theater or fomenting violence and treason.

I note you criticize Trump but not the Dems. TDS strikes again.
Did you notice that I criticized both?

Freedom of the press is good, but many have been perverted by Marxist professors,
and so they tell many more lies than MAGA and many Dems foment murder,
just as Jesus condemned the Pharisees/servants of Satan for doing (John 8:42-44).

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Freedom of speech, as enshrined in the Constitution, a document all service members vow to uphold and protect, protects the speech of university professors, no matter how much one disagrees with them, just as it protects a president claiming that he will issue dividends, or will provide all the funding for a project via donations and not use any taxpayer money, or even that some country has been so damaged that they cannot build nuclear weapons for years if not decades two times in less than two years, and still claim that they need to be prevented from the abSo ility to develop nuclear weapons, even though he destroyed the treaty that had resolved the issue because he "could do better".

That's a lot of Dem talking points. Wow.

Whether the USA is in any danger of falling subject to communism is purely a matter of opinion,

So you actually live under a rock?

just as whether or not the USA is on a path to duplicate Nazi Germany.

So you're for or against the professors and their free speech?

Depending on what one looks at and interprets what they see...

Nah you'd have to be pretty blind, or a Dem, to not see what's going on.

 

[JaumeJ]

But the false teachers tell everyone that Jesus only taught OT law to the Jews and as such we should ignore the teachings of Jesus

The false teachers began their treachery while Yeshua was yet here. This is my understanding.
They began doing the works of the Nic olations big time, at Antioch.

 

[PaulThomson]

We don't. We don't mix politics with God. We never legislate religion because we become like some fundamentalist Muslim countries.
We can never make someone believe what we want, otherwise the Most High would have made us robots to begin with since The Garden.
We can lead someone to water but we can't make them drink.

This is why we separate these topics.
In this election, i am hoping that Trump wins to counterbalance the insanity from the left.

But Eli1, you apply biblical teaching in order to judge that Trump is a better presidential candidate than the Dems who hold even fewer Christian values.

Remember that votes are for the purpose of saving our country from atheist Marxists/Globalists policies, NOT to indicate approval politicians' personal sins. You DO want future generations to be blessed with at least the same quality of life that previous generations passed on to us, don't you?

It seems to me that the whole Bible is about politics: how a society should be arranged and governed.

 

[GWH]

It seems to me that the whole Bible is about politics: how a society should be arranged and governed.

Yes, Scripture applies individually regarding eternal salvation and corporately regarding earthly blessings.

 

[JaumeJ]

It seems to me that the whole Bible is about politics: how a society should be arranged and governed.

The entire Bible is about man's being with our King. Being a King, and Maker of all that has been or ever will be, there is no room for earthly politics for those who believe.
It is an absolute monarchy, and this is perfect, for God is Love, ergo we have nothing to to look forward to other than peace, joy and general perfection.

The Holy Spirit clarifies all, not temporal solutions to difficulties brought on by those who have a temporal solution.......all will burn come the Kingdom

Please, leave all in our King's Hands. We cannot change our earthly destiny without Love, and our Maker is Love.

 

[GWH]

The entire Bible is about man's being with our King. Being a King, and Maker of all that has been or ever will be, there is no room for earthly politics for those who believe.
It is an absolute monarchy, and this is perfect, for God is Love, ergo we have nothing to to look forward to other than peace, joy and general perfection.

The Holy Spirit clarifies all, not temporal solutions to difficulties brought on by those who have a temporal solution.......all will burn come the Kingdom

Please, leave all in our King's Hands. We cannot change our earthly destiny without Love, and our Maker is Love.

All who believe (Eph. 2:8-9) should pray as Jesus taught (in Matt. 6:10) and behave accordingly (Eph. 2:10), which includes
NOT spurning God's blessings, both temporal and eternal (Heb. 12:16-17).

 

[Eli1]

It seems to me that the whole Bible is about politics: how a society should be arranged and governed.

Good one Paul.

When i told you that the Universe itself records everything and we can see our grandfathers if we were to look at them from a point in space 50 light years ago, you told me "You can't see me if i'm in the dark". Make me laugh very hard cos you missed the point.

Yet, here in this topic of Politics and The Holy Trinity / The Creator of The Universe you want to sound clear and cut. Hahah. Good one bro.
I also told you that you're a lot of fun at parties after that comment.

 

[rewriter]

So you're for or against the professors and their free speech?

I am for free speech unless it can clearly be shown to be an imminent threat to public safety, such as falsely yelling "Fire" is a public building. As for specifics, most professors, both liberal and conservative, that I either know personally or have heard speaking, stay within points that I can accept, if not agree with. Very few cross the line into what I consider dangerous, but even then, they do not go so far as to justify shutting down their right to speak.

And I do not live under a rock, nor do I live in an echo chamber where my views are repeated and repeated, sometimes with distortions or active ignoring of the available facts. I listen to both sides and will criticize the side being uncritically praised. In these posts, I am seeing basically uncritical praise for a conservative viewpoint, I do not see the extreme liberal view being advanced, so I do not address it.

Now may we return to what scripture says about politics rather than what the current situation is? And I would note scripture repeatedly calls on believers to trust in God for their safety, not military might. And that is not a call to disband the military, but rather a call to so look on and rely on God that our nation behaves so righteously that no other nation wants to attack us for fear of their own population rising up against their own government in our defense.

Neither major party pushes such an agenda though.

 

[GWH]

I am for free speech unless it can clearly be shown to be an imminent threat to public safety, such as falsely yelling "Fire" is a public building. As for specifics, most professors, both liberal and conservative, that I either know personally or have heard speaking, stay within points that I can accept, if not agree with. Very few cross the line into what I consider dangerous, but even then, they do not go so far as to justify shutting down their right to speak.

And I do not live under a rock, nor do I live in an echo chamber where my views are repeated and repeated, sometimes with distortions or active ignoring of the available facts. I listen to both sides and will criticize the side being uncritically praised. In these posts, I am seeing basically uncritical praise for a conservative viewpoint, I do not see the extreme liberal view being advanced, so I do not address it.

Now may we return to what scripture says about politics rather than what the current situation is? And I would note scripture repeatedly calls on believers to trust in God for their safety, not military might. And that is not a call to disband the military, but rather a call to so look on and rely on God that our nation behaves so righteously that no other nation wants to attack us for fear of their own population rising up against their own government in our defense.

Neither major party pushes such an agenda though.

There have been many instances of MAGA speakers not being allowed to speak without harassment on college campuses.

On this thread for Christians I should hope you would not see the Marxist-Islamist propaganda "advanced"!

If MAGA does not keep control of Congress there will be no more opportunity to apply Scripture to politics but only further lawfare against Christians that was begun by Obama and continued by Biden.

God has worked to provide Americans safety since the Revolution through military might, so do not "trust/rely on" Him to zap evildoers from heaven (Phil. 2:12-13).

If MAGA does not win the midterms, the USA will continue its slide toward unrighteousness and ruin that Biden attempted to achieve.

 

[rewriter]

There have been many instances of MAGA speakers not being allowed to speak without harassment on college campuses.

On this thread for Christians I should hope you would not see the Marxist-Islamist propaganda "advanced"!

If MAGA does not keep control of Congress there will be no more opportunity to apply Scripture to politics but only further lawfare against Christians that was begun by Obama and continued by Biden.

God has worked to provide Americans safety since the Revolution through military might, so do not "trust/rely on" Him to zap evildoers from heaven (Phil. 2:12-13).

If MAGA does not win the midterms, the USA will continue its slide toward unrighteousness and ruin that Biden attempted to achieve.

I oppose those who seek to prevent either MAGA supporters, pro-Israel, Marxists, Christians, Muslims or even atheists from presenting their views. Some of these groups I would rather not have speaking in my neighborhood, but I will defend their right to do so if I must.

I believe that Biden attempted to direct America in the direction he thought best for the majority. With Trump I wonder if he has in mind what is best for the majority or for the minority. But I fully agree with neither.

 

[GWH]

I oppose those who seek to prevent either MAGA supporters, pro-Israel, Marxists, Christians, Muslims or even atheists from presenting their views. Some of these groups I would rather not have speaking in my neighborhood, but I will defend their right to do so if I must.

I believe that Biden attempted to direct America in the direction he thought best for the majority. With Trump I wonder if he has in mind what is best for the majority or for the minority. But I fully agree with neither.

I agree with your first paragraph but not with Biden's attempt to make all of America a third world wasteland like the Democrat-run sanctuary cities and states.