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OMC said:
Oh absolutely, brother — thank you for the breaking‑news revelation that “Yahweh isn’t God’s name,” because apparently when God Himself says, “THIS is My name forever” (Exod 3:15), He was just spitballing, waiting 3,400 years for modern internet commentary to correct Him; and when the inspired authors wrote יהוה over 6,800 times, they were obviously giving us identifiers, not a name — just like when your driver’s license says your name, that’s clearly an identifier and not your name, because we all know real names must meet your personal linguistic criteria.
Meanwhile Jesus quotes Psalm 110 using the divine name logic, the prophets proclaim “YHWH is His name” (Isa 42:8), and the apostles treat the Tetragrammaton as God’s covenant name — but sure, let’s toss all that because “modern pronunciation” makes you uncomfortable.
World‑system diagnosis: this is peak System 3 sentimental‑semantic nitpicking dressed up as theological insight, while Scripture itself stands firmly in System 1 covenant‑juridical reality: God named Himself, not you.
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“I am the Lord” is not the name of God either.
ISAIAH 42:8
8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

God of Abraham, God of Isaac and God of Jacob are not also the name of God.
They may be mentioned frequently in the Old Testament, but they are not the name of the one true God.
God has only one name.
EXODO 3:15
15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

The truth is that, from Isaiah 52:6 and the verses preceding it, the one true God had not yet revealed His name. That is why He declared that His name would only be known in the future, as indicated by the words “shall know.”
ISAIAH 52:6
6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.
 
Godsgood said:
“I am the Lord” is not the name of God either.
ISAIAH 42:8
8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

God of Abraham, God of Isaac and God of Jacob are not also the name of God.
They may be mentioned frequently in the Old Testament, but they are not the name of the one true God.
God has only one name.
EXODO 3:15
15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

The truth is that, from Isaiah 52:6 and the verses preceding it, the one true God had not yet revealed His name. That is why He declared that His name would only be known in the future, as indicated by the words “shall know.”
ISAIAH 52:6
6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I
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Saying “God has not given us His name” is doing exactly what Scripture calls denying or nullifying God’s self‑revelation, because the text repeatedly says He has given His name — YHWH — and has bound that name to His covenant actions (Exod 3:15; Exod 34:6; Isa 42:8; Ps 83:18); to claim He has not given His name is to contradict His own statements, to treat His revelation as incomplete, and to replace His self‑identification with a human theory.
In biblical categories, that falls under false teaching (2 Pet 2:1), twisting Scripture (2 Pet 3:16), and doctrines of demons (1 Tim 4:1) when the reinterpretation becomes unfalsifiable and overrides the plain text.
Scripture’s pattern is consistent: God has revealed His name; Israel often failed to honor it; but the name itself was never hidden.
 
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Godsgood said:
“I am the Lord” is not the name of God either.
ISAIAH 42:8
8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

God of Abraham, God of Isaac and God of Jacob are not also the name of God.
They may be mentioned frequently in the Old Testament, but they are not the name of the one true God.
God has only one name.
EXODO 3:15
15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

The truth is that, from Isaiah 52:6 and the verses preceding it, the one true God had not yet revealed His name. That is why He declared that His name would only be known in the future, as indicated by the words “shall know.”
ISAIAH 52:6
6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.
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You seem to be claiming to know more about God that God Himself knows, because He said in His word, regard both "the Lord" and "I am", "That is My name."
 
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Godsgood said:
Everyone who wishes to join is welcome. However, it is not in accordance with the truth for us to speak on their behalf. Each person should speak for themselves and seek the truth for themselves. As the Scripture says, “work out your own salvation.”
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I don't speak on anyone else's behalf, and even if I did, that wouldn't violate the Scripture. Your understanding of the verse is, as usual, wrong.

Godsgood said:
When you report a crime to the police, the first thing they will ask is whether you know the suspect’s name. They do not first ask for the suspect’s description.
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The first question police ask will depend entirely on the nature of the crime and report. Your assertion has no evidentiary basis.
 
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OMC said:
Saying “God has not given us His name” is doing exactly what Scripture calls denying or nullifying God’s self‑revelation, because the text repeatedly says He has given His name — YHWH — and has bound that name to His covenant actions (Exod 3:15; Exod 34:6; Isa 42:8; Ps 83:18); to claim He has not given His name is to contradict His own statements, to treat His revelation as incomplete, and to replace His self‑identification with a human theory.
In biblical categories, that falls under false teaching (2 Pet 2:1), twisting Scripture (2 Pet 3:16), and doctrines of demons (1 Tim 4:1) when the reinterpretation becomes unfalsifiable and overrides the plain text.
Scripture’s pattern is consistent: God has revealed His name; Israel often failed to honor it; but the name itself was never hidden.
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It is simply not possible for God to contradict His own word in Isaiah 52:6, where His name is yet to be given in the future. Therefore, the names mentioned in Exodus and Psalms are merely the result of a human understanding that regarded them as God’s name.

For according to Isaiah 52:6, God’s name is a secret that He reveals only to His chosen ones who have overcome
REVELATION 2:17
17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

What is found in Exodus and Psalms, however, is public and not secret, because everyone who reads the Holy Scriptures can know it. Therefore, it cannot be God’s name because not everyone has overcome.

May I ask you something: Have you been given the white stone from God, on which His name is written?
 
Godsgood said:
REVELATION 2:17
17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

What is found in Exodus and Psalms, however, is public and not secret, because everyone who reads the Holy Scriptures can know it. Therefore, it cannot be God’s name because not everyone has overcome.

May I ask you something: Have you been given the white stone from God, on which His name is written?
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Revelation 2:17 does not say "the stone with My Name written on it". Your assumption is baseless.
 
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DavidLamb said:
You seem to be claiming to know more about God that God Himself knows, because He said in His word, regard both "the Lord" and "I am", "That is My name."
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What a disciple knows cannot be greater than what the Lord knows. However, if the Lord has revealed something to the disciple, then they both know it.
LUKE 6:40
40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.

From the common human understanding, the terms you refer to as “Lord” and “I Am” are regarded as names of God. This is what they preach to people, and therefore it is also what you believe. But you do not know the true name of the one true God.

That is evidence that you are not among those who have overcome and have been given the white stone on which the name of God is written. That name is a secret, and therefore only those who have been given it know it.
REVELATION 2:17
17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

How can the word “Lord” and the phrase “I Am” be a name when those words are openly known? Even those who do not believe in the Lord Jesus can easily know them simply by reading the Scriptures.

So, despite your insistence that you know the one true God, you have not been given the white stone. What would that be in the presence of the Lord? Would that be speaking truthfully or lying?
 
Godsgood said:
What a disciple knows cannot be greater than what the Lord knows. However, if the Lord has revealed something to the disciple, then they both know it.
LUKE 6:40
40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.

From the common human understanding, the terms you refer to as “Lord” and “I Am” are regarded as names of God. This is what they preach to people, and therefore it is also what you believe. But you do not know the true name of the one true God.

That is evidence that you are not among those who have overcome and have been given the white stone on which the name of God is written. That name is a secret, and therefore only those who have been given it know it.
REVELATION 2:17
17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

How can the word “Lord” and the phrase “I Am” be a name when those words are openly known? Even those who do not believe in the Lord Jesus can easily know them simply by reading the Scriptures.

So, despite your insistence that you know the one true God, you have not been given the white stone. What would that be in the presence of the Lord? Would that be speaking truthfully or lying?
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You haven't been given a white stone either, so give up your silly ego trip.
 
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Dino246 said:
Revelation 2:17 does not say "the stone with My Name written on it". Your assumption is baseless.
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That is evidence that you, too, have not been given the white stone.
Therefore, you do not know the name of God.
In other words, that is proof that you do not know the one true God.

If, according to your belief, it is not true that the name of God is written on the white stone, that is because you have not been given one.
But we who have been enlightened by the word of God have received the white stone on which the name of God is written.
That is why we have the confidence to say that we know the one true God, because our knowledge of Him came directly from God Himself.
 
Dino246 said:
You haven't been given a white stone either, so give up your silly ego trip.
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The Lord truly spits out those who are lukewarm, those who keep changing their minds.
Earlier, you said that Revelation 2:17 does not say that God’s name is written on the white stone.
But now you are saying that it is written there, only that I have not been given the white stone.
The Lord will truly spit you out.
REVELATION 3:16
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
 
Dino246 said:
You haven't been given a white stone either, so give up your silly ego trip.
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On the other hand, why would I say that I know the one true God if I do not actually know Him?
What would I gain from that?

But the truth is that I know Him, which is why I often say that I know the one true God. Unlike you, you insist that you know the one true God, but the truth is that you do not, because you have not been given the white stone.
That is lying in the presence of God.
JOHN 8:54-55
54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
 
Dino246 said:
You don't read too good.
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A person who keeps changing what they say will not know the one true God. Therefore, they will not be granted wisdom that comes from God.
JAMES 1:5-8
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
 
Dino246 said:
That is the stupidest rationalization I have seen all week.

You are a pretender when it comes to God's word.
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The Lord Jesus is truly loving. That is why He said these words.
LUKE 23:34
34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
 
Godsgood said:
A person who keeps changing what they say will not know the one true God. Therefore, they will not be granted wisdom that comes from God.
JAMES 1:5-8
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
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I didn't change what I said. YOU chose not to read what I said and instead assumed that I changed it. That's why I said "You don't read too good."

But, apparently, you didn't read that too good either.
 
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