To the saints.

[Watchman22]

1) Jesus said, concerning the tithes. "These things you ought to have done". Even though Jesus knew that the treasury where the tithes went into, would be where the 30 pieces of silver came from to pay Judas for his betrayal.

2) The premise of tithing goes back before the law , to Abraham and Jacob.

3) In the book of acts, they sold everything they had and gave it to the church, or God.
Thats why there's no teaching on tithing, they gave it all.

1) God to be God has no needs, but most of Christianity raises its money based on need....
The churches reduce God down to a beggar of money.....
Need is not the criteria.

2) You can't be a Christian, if you don't have that desire to give.

 

[Watchman22]

1) God to be God has no needs, but most of Christianity raises its money based on need....
The churches reduce God down to a beggar of money.....
Need is not the criteria.

2) You can't be a Christian, if you don't have that desire to give.

1) The tabernacle in the OT, is a type of our relationship with God in the NT... all done in secret, inside the curtains.

2) Give in secret, pray in secret, fast in secret.....

3) It's the nature of God's Spirit to make "Givers" out of us....

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

a continually surrendered life

offer a deeper surrendered life, and grab hold of Gods word and what He says.

? How about this of "What we see In Scripture?:

Contradiction or wrongly dividing?

Better question: Is a seeming 'contradiction' UN-Scriptural or UN-Dispensational?:

​

"A pastor friend of this writer has written the following: “There are professing
Christians who religiously practice the washing of feet. Are they Scriptural or
unscriptural? There are some who anoint the sick with oil, while others use
blessed handkerchiefs. Are they Scriptural or unscriptural? Still others tarry
for the Holy Spirit after they have received Christ for salvation.

Some professing Christians claim to have visions and angelic visitations while
hearing supernatural voices. Are they Scriptural or unscriptural? Thousands of
others break forth in some kind of speech which they call the gift of tongues.
Is it Scriptural or unscriptural to speak in tongues?”

To which we add: Scriptures can be found to substantiate all of these actions.
However, it seems to us that it is less than intellectual honesty, much less a
spiritual practice, to arbitrarily select certain Bible commands for obedience
while completely disregarding others.

Why not obey the mandates in Numbers 15:32-36 and Deuteronomy 21:18-21
where infractions were to be punished by publicly stoning the offender to
death? Why not build a tabernacle and offer sacrifices as God commanded
in Exodus 25-31? Why not “sell that ye have and give alms” as Christ instructed
in Luke 12:33? In short, why obey certain Bible commands and ignore others?

Why not obey them all? The answer to these questions is clearly stated in
II Timothy 2:15:

“Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that​

needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth.”​

Though ALL Scripture is most certainly for our admonition and instruction,
all Scripture is NOT for our obedience. In fact, obeying commands given to
others in past economies could be direct disobedience in this age.
(Compare Genesis 17:10-14 with Galatians 5:2 and Romans 2:25-29.

Also, Matthew 19:16-21 with Romans 4:5 and Ephesians 2:8-9). II Timothy 3:16-17
does not contradict or nullify II Timothy 2:15. To the Apostle Paul, the Glorified
Lord revealed God’s message and program for this age of grace. To him was
committed the dispensation of the Grace of God (See Ephesians 3:1-9). In his
epistles, we find the commands given directly to the Body of Christ.

The question then, is not only, is it Scriptural, but is it dispensational?"
(W Johnson)

-------------
And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:

The Bible: The BIG Picture

Amen.

 

[Watchman22]

? How about this of "What we see In Scripture?:

Contradiction or wrongly dividing?

Better question: Is a seeming 'contradiction' UN-Scriptural or UN-Dispensational?:

​

"A pastor friend of this writer has written the following: “There are professing
Christians who religiously practice the washing of feet. Are they Scriptural or
unscriptural? There are some who anoint the sick with oil, while others use
blessed handkerchiefs. Are they Scriptural or unscriptural? Still others tarry
for the Holy Spirit after they have received Christ for salvation.

Some professing Christians claim to have visions and angelic visitations while
hearing supernatural voices. Are they Scriptural or unscriptural? Thousands of
others break forth in some kind of speech which they call the gift of tongues.
Is it Scriptural or unscriptural to speak in tongues?”

To which we add: Scriptures can be found to substantiate all of these actions.
However, it seems to us that it is less than intellectual honesty, much less a
spiritual practice, to arbitrarily select certain Bible commands for obedience
while completely disregarding others.

Why not obey the mandates in Numbers 15:32-36 and Deuteronomy 21:18-21
where infractions were to be punished by publicly stoning the offender to
death? Why not build a tabernacle and offer sacrifices as God commanded
in Exodus 25-31? Why not “sell that ye have and give alms” as Christ instructed
in Luke 12:33? In short, why obey certain Bible commands and ignore others?

Why not obey them all? The answer to these questions is clearly stated in
II Timothy 2:15:

“Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that​

needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth.”​

Though ALL Scripture is most certainly for our admonition and instruction,
all Scripture is NOT for our obedience. In fact, obeying commands given to
others in past economies could be direct disobedience in this age.
(Compare Genesis 17:10-14 with Galatians 5:2 and Romans 2:25-29.

Also, Matthew 19:16-21 with Romans 4:5 and Ephesians 2:8-9). II Timothy 3:16-17
does not contradict or nullify II Timothy 2:15. To the Apostle Paul, the Glorified
Lord revealed God’s message and program for this age of grace. To him was
committed the dispensation of the Grace of God (See Ephesians 3:1-9). In his
epistles, we find the commands given directly to the Body of Christ.

The question then, is not only, is it Scriptural, but is it dispensational?"
(W Johnson)

-------------
And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:

The Bible: The BIG Picture

Amen.

GA,
Don't be afraid to say what's on your mind.

Tip toeing around what you really want to say just leaves me wondering what your point us.

Are you questioning my understanding of faith and faithing, pistis and pisteuo, being a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender?

 

[Watchman22]

1) The tabernacle in the OT, is a type of our relationship with God in the NT... all done in secret, inside the curtains.

2) Give in secret, pray in secret, fast in secret.....

3) It's the nature of God's Spirit to make "Givers" out of us....

1) Every time the gospel is preached, Jesus said, "tell what this woman did."
What the woman did was the proper response to hearing the Word of God.
She gave the most precious things she had, and wasted it on the Word of God.

That is why the true understanding of NT faith is a continually surrendered life, our most precious possession, to be wasted on Jesus.

 

[Dino246]

2) You can't be a Christian, if you don't have that desire to give.

That's not in Scripture... anywhere.

 

[Watchman22]

1) Every time the gospel is preached, Jesus said, "tell what this woman did."
What the woman did was the proper response to hearing the Word of God.
She gave the most precious things she had, and wasted it on the Word of God.

That is why the true understanding of NT faith is a continually surrendered life, our most precious possession, to be wasted on Jesus.

1) we give because God likes it, not because He needs it.....

2) we don't give because of grief or need, we give because the indwelling Holy spirit compells us to....

3) Giving hilariously is an outpouring of Gods Spirit in us.

 

[Burn1986]

A saint in the Greek is "Hagios".

A saint is a " called out one", committed to the Lord.

Saints aren't perfect, they are candidates for perfection.

All the responsibility doesn't lay with God.
We have to position ourselves properly in Him. ( a continually surrendered life)

Pretty sure to be a registered as a Catholic Saint, you have to perform two documented miracles. You gotta admit, that would be tough.