thanks i will give it a watch. i have been a bit better these past weeks tbh every has been very helpful with their testimonies and just being open in general. isolation seems to amplify things a lot so it is nice to be able to share here
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i will pray for you then too and your daughter then, thank you.
yes i use discord too your welcome to message me there too np
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You are in a demonic attack.
Satan hates you.
He can not destroy you.
He wants to destroy you.
So use this time to get understanding and move into victory.
Get an overdose of Kenneth Hagin, and watch what happens..
I was in your exact same shoes 30 years ago. I was so far down I could not see the bottom.
Then some friends brought me the tape by having.
It transformed my walk.
Don't let anything keep you from
Watching his videos of him preaching.
The fake ones do not have archived video.
Do not listen to the fake ones.
Again...you will thank me.
Satan hates you.
He can not destroy you.
He wants to destroy you.
So use this time to get understanding and move into victory.
Get an overdose of Kenneth Hagin, and watch what happens..
I was in your exact same shoes 30 years ago. I was so far down I could not see the bottom.
Then some friends brought me the tape by having.
It transformed my walk.
Don't let anything keep you from
Watching his videos of him preaching.
The fake ones do not have archived video.
Do not listen to the fake ones.
Again...you will thank me.
Thank you for your prayers, on both our accounts. God bless you
I have the same name on there too, sent a friend request
Hello Beloved...
In response to #1 Jesus said, John 15:18 "If the world hates you, know that it hated me first." As followers of Christ, we carry our crosses and it's not a cake walk, it wasn't easy for our King and it's not easy for us. It's not about being happy Beloved yet it IS all about a real, honest to goodness relationship with Christ which is a spiritual thing, not a human one.
#2 It's a sign of your soul needing growth for you to ask what you ask in #2, this is a good thing Beloved, you are most likely being refined by the Lord via various life experiences. Why seek Church when it is the Lord Jesus Christ whom you require? Reach to Him Beloved, reach to Father for He and Father are One. Talk aloud to Him as a child would speak to her Father, He LOVES you and desires VERY much to fill in all the gaps in your life yet in order to do that you need to reach to Him personally. He gives us freewill in the hope that we would find our way back to the One Who loves us most.
#3 With God ALL things are possibly however we have to make Him first in our lives and I think you already know that He is not first with you. Father and Jesus are both very very real and they are active in the lives of those who love Them. Once they are a part of our lives, even though we may still face storms, they don't defeat us, we get back up stronger, wiser and better for having survived.
I very much desire from my heart to help you through this difficult time. I want you to know our King because you are worthy of this Beloved, now make your King, Father, Savior and Lord feel worthy, place them first and then They will help you build a more fulfilling life in which not only will your lips smile yet your heart as well. I hope these words help.
thanks i will give it a watch. i have been a bit better these past weeks tbh every has been very helpful with their testimonies and just being open in general. isolation seems to amplify things a lot so it is nice to be able to share here
I'm so glad to hear you're doing a little better.
Word of caution, especially since you are so vulnerable right now: I highly suggest researching the false teachings of Kenneth Hagin before jumping into anything. Here's a few of his quotes -
“The death of Jesus Christ was not a physical death alone. If it had been a physical death, Abel would have paid the price for mankind. He was the first man that died because of honoring God and His Word. If it had been a physical death only, it wouldn't have worked! And if He hadn't died spiritually, that body never would have died.” (Kenneth Hagin, What Happened From the Cross to the Throne, Tape #00-0303)
“He (Jesus) tasted spiritual death for every man. And his spirit and inner man went to hell in my place. Can’t you see that? PHYSICAL DEATH WOULDN’T REMOVE YOUR SINS. He tasted death for every man. He’s talking about spiritual death.” (Kenneth Hagin, How Jesus obtained his name tape # 44HO1 side 1)
Compare to the Bible -
Heb 10:19 Since therefore, brethren, we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh...
Col 1:20 and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; 22 yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless
1 Pet 3:18 For Christ also died for sins once for all, in order that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh…
1 Pet 2:24 and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.
I just wanted you to be aware and beware.
If you're interested, here's an in-depth introduction to the Word of Faith movement's teachings [founded by KH], and you can decide for yourself: LINKHave a blessed evening!
Thanks i actually know a bit about hagin my dad used to watch him so the name sounded familiar in a concerning way. Thanks for pr9viding some solid quotes too i appreciate it.I'm so glad to hear you're doing a little better.
Word of caution, especially since you are so vulnerable right now: I highly suggest researching the false teachings of Kenneth Hagin before jumping into anything. Here's a few of his quotes -
“The death of Jesus Christ was not a physical death alone. If it had been a physical death, Abel would have paid the price for mankind. He was the first man that died because of honoring God and His Word. If it had been a physical death only, it wouldn't have worked! And if He hadn't died spiritually, that body never would have died.” (Kenneth Hagin, What Happened From the Cross to the Throne, Tape #00-0303)
“He (Jesus) tasted spiritual death for every man. And his spirit and inner man went to hell in my place. Can’t you see that? PHYSICAL DEATH WOULDN’T REMOVE YOUR SINS. He tasted death for every man. He’s talking about spiritual death.” (Kenneth Hagin, How Jesus obtained his name tape # 44HO1 side 1)
Compare to the Bible -
Heb 10:19 Since therefore, brethren, we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh...
Col 1:20 and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; 22 yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless
1 Pet 3:18 For Christ also died for sins once for all, in order that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh…
1 Pet 2:24 and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.
I just wanted you to be aware and beware.
Have a blessed evening!
That advice to stay away from Brother Hagin is bogus.
The Baptists hate anything to do with the authority of the believer.
I have been walking with God for over 50 years.
I see many believers that have zero background into anything concerning the authority of the believer.
That guy telling you to stay away from Brother Hagin is listening to lies.
Think about it.
Satan's job is to accuse the body of Christ.
What is that guy doing?
He is accusing a man of God.
Telling lies about Brother Hagin.
So very sad.
Keep looking for more things to slander Brother Hagin.I'm so glad to hear you're doing a little better.
Word of caution, especially since you are so vulnerable right now: I highly suggest researching the false teachings of Kenneth Hagin before jumping into anything. Here's a few of his quotes -
“The death of Jesus Christ was not a physical death alone. If it had been a physical death, Abel would have paid the price for mankind. He was the first man that died because of honoring God and His Word. If it had been a physical death only, it wouldn't have worked! And if He hadn't died spiritually, that body never would have died.” (Kenneth Hagin, What Happened From the Cross to the Throne, Tape #00-0303)
“He (Jesus) tasted spiritual death for every man. And his spirit and inner man went to hell in my place. Can’t you see that? PHYSICAL DEATH WOULDN’T REMOVE YOUR SINS. He tasted death for every man. He’s talking about spiritual death.” (Kenneth Hagin, How Jesus obtained his name tape # 44HO1 side 1)
Compare to the Bible -
Heb 10:19 Since therefore, brethren, we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh...
Col 1:20 and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; 22 yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless
1 Pet 3:18 For Christ also died for sins once for all, in order that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh…
1 Pet 2:24 and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.
I just wanted you to be aware and beware.
Have a blessed evening!
I can look up all kinds of dirt on your Baptist preachers and do what you do.
Smear them by twisting every word.
( you know, like you do).
Then tell everyone how evil your Baptist preachers are.
But that would put me in line with Satan as the accuser of the brethren.
You are in a horrible pit slandering a good man of God.
I sincerely hope you do not fall into that trap of those "Christians" that smear brother Hagin.
It is literally sickening what comes out of their mouths.
I recently corrected a friend of mine, a Baptist brother, that was smearing all kinds of lies about mother Teresa.
She was such a fine woman.
I called him out on it.
He said he got his information on the internet.
( sound familar)
I always wonder what possesses a "Christian" to smear another Christian brother.
It is a spirit operating in them.
A demon.
Give Hagin a try.
You will thank me.
He is saying things that oppose scripture.
I appreciate your concern though thank you
God is the great divider though, we're to discern. I am glad you have faith in Christ thoughName one.He is saying things that oppose scripture.
I appreciate your concern though thank you
Just one
...but anyway...nevermind .
Those Baptists got you in their merry go round of the abstract.
You have been duped.
You are confused. I'm not baptist, and I'm not here to debate you. I've done the research for myself and will continue to warn others because I care about them.
Hagin and other WoF preachers have said what they said. It's all out there in video and writings for any Christian to compare to the Bible. They condemn themselves.
Take good care!
You take every word out of context.
Why don't you do your own investigation?
When God said to Adam and eve, "when you eat of that fruit, on that day you will surely die"
According to your manual, did God lie about it, or was God confused?
Did they die?
What died?
See your folly???
We ALL NOW that Jesus spirit kept going intact after his body died.
You know it, I know it , and Hagin Knows it.
Hagin is pointing out that when a sinner dies, his Spirit suffers eternal death.
Jesus died in THEIR PLACE.
JESUS TOOK ON THEIR PUNISHMENT.
The sinner has a choice. He can surrender to Jesus and obtain eternal life, or he can suffer eternal death.
That is what Hagin is pointing to.
What did Jesus take onto himself , on the cross, to be separated from God?
" My God my God why have you forsaken me"
Hagin is saying in order to break the curse of Adam Jesus had to take on every dimension of the curse, plus the sins of the world..
When a sinner dies, their spirit continues in hell.
We all know that. You know it, i know it and brother Hagin knows it also.
when a born again redeemed saint dies, His spirit continues into heaven.
You know it, I know it, and Hagin knows it.
The sinner in hell is in eternal death.
A spiritual death with no body.
When Paul says "i pick up my cross daily", does your workbook also go mental and say "Paul always had a big wooden cross that he had handy and walked around dragging it along"
No. That requires a look into investigation. I must RECoNCILE what is being said , AGINST WHAT THE BIBLE ADDS TO THAT.
So your lack of investigation, is replaced by cherry picked baloney you never bothered to investigate .
You are lead by the wrong people.
You should start a separate thread if you want to discuss WOF in detail, because this isn't the place. May you be blessed by the Lord Jesus Christ and His absolute truth!
Yes can you please take this somewhere else. This is a thread where a sister is asking for help, not a platform for debate.
I am here to help her. You brought the rabbit trail of attacking the brethren in here.
You can not refute much of anything without leaning on internet gossip against Gods people.
...as if you ever researched your bogus claims.
Amen.
The point was to lead her out of the attacking she is in.
I personally knew the enemy would step in, and take it into attacking ministers via internet little minions.
Sad.
And she fell for that baloney.
Based on the above, you've tried everything possible. I don't know the whole situation, what God has in store for you, or what you've discussed with your pastor, etc. so I don't want to push you one way or the other. It's not my place to do that. The only thing I can say for sure is that if adultery has occurred on his part, you are Biblically free to divorce and remarry -
Matt 5:31 “It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’ 32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to commit adultery, and anyone who marries a woman so divorced commits adultery.”
Matt 19:8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery.”
I hear and agree with you. I realized faith is a bit of double-edged sword during covid. We all watched helplessly as so many horrific injustices took place without consequence. Riots, beatings, murders, chaos, looting, oppressive covid restrictions, etc. I was sickened to my core.
And I admit it - I was mad. I KNEW that God could have brought all of that pain and suffering to an end and brought the criminals to justice right there and then, and yet it continued.
- On the one hand: I had faith in God to know He was in control and could change everything if He desired.
- On the other: I was mad that He allowed it. More accurately, I was mad that He wouldn't do what I wanted Him to do.
It was a tough lesson. We know in our hearts that God's will, timing, and justice are righteous and perfect in every way, but there are always going to be times when we have to remind ourselves of that fact because we're flawed humans. God knows this, and He understands. He will be with us through that journey. Your continued faith in Him and eagerness to do His will even through this seriously horrible time is an inspiring example of perseverance.
I sincerely pray God brings you clarity and assurance of His will so you can move forward in the direction He has appointed for you.
Num 6:24 “The Lord bless you and keep you;
25 The Lord make His face shine upon you,
And be gracious to you;
26 The Lord lift up His countenance upon you,
And give you peace.” ’
okay i am still here though. and i appreciate everythign you have done
but in all honesty i have been very uplifted in the spirit through scripture before all of this and the sermon you hsared. I didn't feel like i needed more other than reading more of God's word and brothers and sisters giving encouragment.
i havent' been 'duped' i do know a bit about the pastor tbh but did not want to be rude or stir up debate was all. so thank you again.
just wanted to make that clear.