I do. But saying that would not convince me either which is why I say no matter what is said, test it against the scripture. But refusing to do even that is just as bad as a person claiming to be an atheist without ever having read the bible. It's just silly.
“But refusing to do even that is just as bad as a person claiming to be an atheist without ever having read the bible. It's just silly.”
I've said this before but here it is again so you don't misunderstand my position, AI can help organize thoughts or surface verses, but it cannot teach, convict, correct, or reveal — only Scripture can do that (2 Tim. 3:16).
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You’re right that Zechariah and Revelation share imagery, but calling Zechariah “the Old Testament version of Revelation” flattens two different prophetic assignments;
You’re calling it “prophetic telescoping,” but the text itself doesn’t let you collapse Zechariah into Revelation as if they’re the same book doing the same job; Zechariah 12 absolutely contains future‑looking judgment and restoration language — no debate there — but the chapter is still spoken to post‑exile Judah, still tied to the house of David, still anchored in the covenant context of a nation restored from Babylon, and the NT applies only one line directly to Christ’s first coming (“they shall look upon me whom they have pierced,” John 19:37), not the whole chapter as a unified end‑times block.
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What @Pilgrimshope , myself, and others have an issue with is the way AI is used in a discussion forum. Walls of text are produced in minutes aided by AI. Someone using AI should let AI organize the text but then type out the points that seem relevant to the topic. By NOT doing this the forums become a archive of AI cut-n-pastes.
If you truly believe Mystery Babylon is Jerusalem you have to answer, how come Jerusalem is still here? Revelation 18 says that city won't be found again. If it is future Jerusalem you have to answer the promises that Jerusalem will be exalted and rebuilt at the second coming, not "never found again" it is the capital of the world!
Test what is said against scripture. Test it. If you cant do that then go away. Or better yet just ignore me, please!
Once everyone catches on to AI, the personal back and forth will be so mechanical it will kill genuine discussion.
Jerusalem’s survival is not a problem for the Jerusalem‑is‑Babylon reading because Revelation 18’s “not found any more” is covenant‑world language, not GPS‑coordinates language: the same idiom is used repeatedly in the prophets for Jerusalem’s destruction, yet those texts also promise Jerusalem’s future restoration, meaning the “never again” formula marks the end of a corrupt covenant order, not the erasure of the physical city; Revelation itself uses this pattern when the old heaven and earth “pass away” (Rev 21:1) even though the planet obviously continues, so the fall of Babylon in Rev 18 is the fall of Jerusalem‑as‑harlot, not the annihilation of the dirt under her feet.
Scripture objects to that posture in multiple places because reviling speech and self‑exalting defiance are treated as sins of the flesh, not marks of strength: Proverbs 15:1 says a soft answer turns away wrath but harsh words stir up strife; Proverbs 16:18 warns that pride goes before destruction; Ephesians 4:29 commands that no corrupt talk come out of your mouth; Colossians 4:6 requires speech seasoned with grace; Galatians 5:19–21 lists fits of rage, dissensions, and strife as works of the flesh; James 3:9–10 rebukes cursing people made in God’s image; 1 Peter 2:23 shows Christ refusing to revile when reviled; and 2 Timothy 2:24–25 says the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but gentle. The attitude behind “little boy robot… you have no authority over me… grow up and man up” is exactly the kind of reviling, pride, and contempt those passages forbid, because biblical masculinity is measured by self‑control, gentleness, and truthful correction, not by verbal dominance or belittling speech.
