Replacement theology? Yes or No.

[cv5]

Scripture uses heaven and earth as covenant language connected with Israel, the Law, judgment, and the establishment of a new covenant order.

The sun, moon, stars, land, and seas existed long before Moses.

Scripture developed a covenantal "heaven and earth" order around the nation formed under the Mosaic covenant.

That covenant world could therefore be shaken, judged, dissolved, and replaced, yet not have the physical planet destroyed and this happened in the first century.

When we truly follow the language from Moses through the prophets, Jesus, Peter, and Revelation, the Bible interprets itself.

So what happened here? Covenants were dissolved along with the entire world and its inhabitants?
And since when did Sodom have a covenant with God?

As you can see, trivial biblically illiterate fantasies will always be incinerated or drowned.

[Luk 17:24-30 KJV] –
24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one [part] under heaven, shineth unto the other [part] under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
25 But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.
26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed [them] all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

 

[HeIsHere]

Yes exactly they look forward to the heavenly city.
If you read the beatitudes - it says the meek shall inherit the earth and each verse gives a description of a Christian attribute, followed by a description of the heavenly city. It says things like Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven etc It comes to us from heaven, its builder is Christ and it is not up in the sky on fluffy clouds, It is a physical reality on earth.


Revelation‬ ‭21:2

Yes Jesus came from heaven and indwells those who are truly His.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

True, will happen after the millennium.

It is the plain reading of the Bible, the only view you can ever get from just reading.

“True, will happen after the millennium.”

Kind of funny Peter , an apostle , is preparing them for his return and doesn’t mention it nor did Paul Jesus or anyone else mention some earthly millennium riegn . Rather they all taught that the church was waiting for Jesus retirn and the actual promised kingdom to come to pass

 

[cv5]

Scripture uses heaven and earth as covenant language connected with Israel, the Law, judgment, and the establishment of a new covenant order.

The sun, moon, stars, land, and seas existed long before Moses.

Scripture developed a covenantal "heaven and earth" order around the nation formed under the Mosaic covenant.

That covenant world could therefore be shaken, judged, dissolved, and replaced, yet not have the physical planet destroyed and this happened in the first century.

When we truly follow the language from Moses through the prophets, Jesus, Peter, and Revelation, the Bible interprets itself.

Please tell us why it is that CT's proclaim a "dont worry be happy" dogma devoid of codified legit Biblically sound eschatology?
Are they failing in their mandate to watch and warn the world of impending judgement?

[Mat 13:47-49 NKJV] –
47 "Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet that was cast into the sea and gathered some of every kind,
48 "which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but threw the bad away.
49 "So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just,

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Yes Jesus came from heaven and indwells those who are truly His.

He’s meant to sit on the throne of the heart and rule the kingdom of the person . But I’m remembering why I disappeared from here . Nothing ever changes same arguments …. Exhausting

 

[HeIsHere]

He’s meant to sit on the throne of the heart and rule the kingdom of the person . But I’m remembering why I disappeared from here . Nothing ever changes same arguments …. Exhausting

Yes, frustrating ... I think the people with the wrong view know they can concede any point otherwise the whole system falls apart, even when scripture is clear.
The Sermon on the Mount is not about Christ reigning in physical form on earth for 1000 years... that is such a stretch!!

Some are even "chomping at the bit" for end times death and destruction,

thinking they are going to have some high office with Jesus in a not biblically supported millennial reign.

 

[Revelation1v8]

Yes Jesus came from heaven and indwells those who are truly His.

You're confusing the time of the Gentiles where God/Jesus resides with us through His Holy Spirit. But the Bible explicitly shows that it doesn't end there. The time comes when God/Jesus will return to reside with men forever, not just through His Spirit.

Here is a more detailed explanation through A.I. for better understanding:

The Bible explicitly states in Revelation 21:3 that "the dwelling place of God is with man" and "He will dwell with them" in the context of the New Jerusalem coming down from heaven to earth. This eternal state is described as a physical reality where believers possess resurrected, physical bodies (1 Corinthians 15:42–44) and live in a physical universe on a renewed planet, rather than existing as disembodied spirits in a distant heaven.

This fulfillment completes a biblical trajectory of God’s desire for physical presence:

• Eden: God walked physically with Adam and Eve before the Fall.
• Tabernacle and Temple: God’s presence dwelt physically among Israel in portable and permanent structures.
• Incarnation: Jesus "tabernacled" among humanity in physical flesh (John 1:14).
• Eternity: God will permanently reside with redeemed humanity in physical form, ending the separation caused by sin.

Theologically, this emphasizes that God is coming down to live with His people in our new physical home forever. The removal of death, mourning, and pain (Revelation 21:4) further confirms this as a tangible, restored physical existence.

 

[Revelation1v8]

He’s meant to sit on the throne of the heart and rule the kingdom of the person . But I’m remembering why I disappeared from here . Nothing ever changes same arguments …. Exhausting

Somehow, I thought that you believed in a future heaven and earth. Now, you're taking all of that back? HeIsHere doesn't believe in such a thing.

 

[ScooterJackson]

When we truly follow the language from Moses through the prophets, Jesus, Peter, and Revelation, the Bible interprets itself.

Christians are called to follow Jesus Who is our High Priest under the New Covenant.

Not Moses who was high priest over the now defunked and debunked old covenant.

The Galatians allowed the devil to bewitch them in to turning away from the Lord to go back to the law of Moses and that's when they turned away from the Lord Jesus and fell from grace

 

[ScooterJackson]

“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

As already pointed out, Jesus lived His life here keeping all of the OT commandment with perfection and in doing so He fulfilled the law. Those thinking he came to bring the law of Moses to Christians are in deep error and like the Galatians they have fallen from grace having rejected the Lord Jesus as their High Priest in order to follow the law of Moses.

Jesus said He came to do God's will and take the old covenant away in order to establish the New Covenant.
Hebrews 10:9 - Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

Some among us refuse to allow what the Lord says in His Word to get in the way of what they believe.

 

[Revelation1v8]

“True, will happen after the millennium.”

Kind of funny Peter , an apostle , is preparing them for his return and doesn’t mention it nor did Paul Jesus or anyone else mention some earthly millennium riegn . Rather they all taught that the church was waiting for Jesus retirn and the actual promised kingdom to come to pass

Are you sure you understood what they were teaching?

Jesus explicitly taught an earthly reign through the Gospel of the Kingdom, presenting Himself as the Messiah AND KING of Israel who would establish a prophesied kingdom on earth where He would rule as King (Matthew 3:2, 4:17; Zechariah 14:9). The Sermon on the Mount serves as the charter for this earthly kingdom, detailing the life believers will live when Jesus reigns on earth, distinct from the heavenly position of the Church.

Paul also taught an earthly reign for Jesus, specifically in 1 Corinthians 15:24–28, where he outlines a future phase where Jesus reigns to abolish all opposition before handing the kingdom to the Father. Paul supports this by citing Psalm 110 and Psalm 8, arguing that as the Last Adam, Jesus must reign over the earth to succeed where the first Adam failed, fulfilling the mandate for man to rule over creation. While Paul emphasized a heavenly citizenship for the Church, he affirmed that Jesus’ ultimate kingdom reign is future and earthly, not merely a spiritual rule from heaven.

 

[cv5]

Yes, frustrating ... I think the people with the wrong view know they can concede any point otherwise the whole system falls apart, even when scripture is clear.
The Sermon on the Mount is not about Christ reigning in physical form on earth for 1000 years... that is such a stretch!!

Some are even "chomping at the bit" for end times death and destruction,

thinking they are going to have some high office with Jesus in a not biblically supported millennial reign.

It behooves me to inform the board that your particular flavor of CT has the following features:

- denies the Second Coming
- denies future eschatological and prophetic judgement of any kind
- denies the future fulfillment of the Abrahamic and Davidic covenants
- denies the future redemption and restoration of the Nation Israel
- denies the future millennial reign of peace and the binding and sealing of Satan and his host in that AGE

Basically this form of CT demands an earthly Church supremacy forever dogma. Similar in many ways to RC dogma.

Little do the CT's know that the mystery new man gentile Bride Church is merely a small and limited dispensation
that inhabits a tiny sliver of time, the interregnum between the 69th and 70th weeks of Daniel.

The Church is actually a bit player in Gods grand scheme of salvation.

 

[cv5]

Somehow, I thought that you believed in a future heaven and earth. Now, you're taking all of that back? HeIsHere doesn't believe in such a thing.

Yep. Poor guy went full bore CT and amil.
Tragic but a sign of the times I guess.

 

[cv5]

He’s meant to sit on the throne of the heart and rule the kingdom of the person . But I’m remembering why I disappeared from here . Nothing ever changes same arguments …. Exhausting

That's it? Rule the kingdom of the person?
Well then what are we supposed to be watching for? Stage 4 cancer?

Direct commands to WATCH, WAKE UP, and BE READY​

Matthew 24:42

“Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.”

One of the clearest commands. The uncertainty of the timing is the reason for watchfulness.

Matthew 24:44

“Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.”

Matthew 24:46

“Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.”

Readiness means active faithfulness, not passive date-watching.

Matthew 25:13

“Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.”

Mark 13:33

“Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.”

Mark 13:35

“Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh...”

Mark 13:37

“And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.”

That last clause is especially important: “I say unto all, Watch.”

Luke 12:35–36

“Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning; And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord...”

Luke 12:40

“Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.”

Luke 21:34

“And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged... and so that day come upon you unawares.”

Luke 21:36

“Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass...”

Whatever one's detailed eschatological interpretation, this is explicitly watchfulness in view of coming worldwide judgment.

 

[cv5]

He’s meant to sit on the throne of the heart and rule the kingdom of the person . But I’m remembering why I disappeared from here . Nothing ever changes same arguments …. Exhausting

Here you go. You may ignore or comply as you see fit.

1. Paul: Christians are specifically commanded to be awake because the DAY OF THE LORD is coming​

This is probably the strongest single passage for your question.

1 Thessalonians 5:2​

“For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.”

1 Thessalonians 5:3​

“For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them...”

Notice the contrast: “they” face sudden destruction.

1 Thessalonians 5:4​

“But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.”

1 Thessalonians 5:5​

“Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day...”

1 Thessalonians 5:6​

“Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.”

That is almost exactly your proposition:

Day of the Lord → sudden destruction → therefore Christians are to watch and remain sober.

1 Thessalonians 5:8​

“But let us, who are of the day, be sober...”

1 Thessalonians 5:9​

“For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ.”

2. Peter explicitly connects holy conduct with the DAY OF GOD​

2 Peter 3:10​

“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise...”

2 Peter 3:11​

“Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness...”

2 Peter 3:12​

“Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God...”

2 Peter 3:14​

“Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.”

This is another major passage:

Coming cosmic judgment → believers should be watching, expecting, and living accordingly.

3. Hebrews: exhort one another as THE DAY approaches​

Hebrews 10:24–25

“And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works... exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.”

This is extremely significant.

The approaching Day should increase—not decrease—Christian exhortation.

Hebrews 9:28

“...unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”

 

[Revelation1v8]

Yep. Poor guy went full bore CT and amil.
Tragic but a sign of the times I guess.

Personally, I think Pilgrimshope has just forgotten what exactly HeIsHere fully believes, but I could be wrong.

 

[cv5]

He’s meant to sit on the throne of the heart and rule the kingdom of the person . But I’m remembering why I disappeared from here . Nothing ever changes same arguments …. Exhausting

Here let me help you:

1. John: remain ready so we are not ashamed at His coming​

1 John 2:28

“And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.”

1 John 3:2

“...we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him...”

1 John 3:3

“And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself...”

Expectation of Christ’s appearing produces purification.

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2. Jude: believers awaiting Christ’s return while rescuing others​

This passage is particularly important for the warning/rescue side of your question.

Jude 20–21

“But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith... Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.”

Then immediately:

Jude 22–23

“And of some have compassion, making a difference: And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire...”

That is about as graphic an evangelistic rescue metaphor as the NT gives.

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3. Revelation: Christ explicitly commands His churches to WATCH​

Revelation 3:2​

“Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain...”

Revelation 3:3​

“Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief...”

This language parallels 1 Thessalonians 5.

Revelation 3:10​

“Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world...”

From a pre-tribulational dispensational perspective, this is highly significant because the coming testing is worldwide and the faithful church is promised preservation “from the hour.”

Revelation 3:11​

“Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast...”

Revelation 16:15​

“Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments...”

This occurs in a Tribulation context, but it preserves the same watchfulness motif.

Revelation 22:7​

“Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.”

Revelation 22:12​

“And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me...”

Revelation 22:20​

“Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.”

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4. The NT also commands Christians to WARN people of coming judgment​

The NT does not tell Christians merely to privately “watch.” Believers are entrusted with a message concerning salvation and coming judgment.

Acts 17:30–31​

Paul's preaching to unbelievers:

“God... now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness...”

This is explicit evangelistic warning:

Repent → because a fixed day of worldwide judgment is coming.

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Acts 24:25​

Paul reasoning with Felix:

“And as he reasoned of righteousness, temperance, and judgment to come, Felix trembled...”

“Judgment to come” was part of apostolic evangelism.

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Acts 10:42​

Peter says Christ:

“commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.”

That is exceptionally explicit.

The apostles were commanded to testify about Christ as coming Judge.

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5. Paul describes Christian ministry itself as WARNing people​

Colossians 1:28​

“Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom...”

Notice Paul's vocabulary:

preaching + warning + teaching.

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1 Thessalonians 5:14​

“Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly...”

The immediate context is church discipline rather than evangelistic judgment-warning, but warning is unquestionably part of Christian ministry.

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6. Christians are ambassadors pleading with people to be reconciled to God​

2 Corinthians 5:10​

“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ...”

Then Paul turns immediately to ministry:

2 Corinthians 5:11​

“Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men...”

That is one of the strongest verses supporting your point.

Because we know divine judgment, “we persuade men.”

Then:

2 Corinthians 5:20​

“Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.”

The logic is unmistakable:

judgment → persuasion → reconciliation message.

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7. The Great Commission necessarily includes warning of judgment​

Matthew 28:19–20​

“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations... Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you...”

Christ's teachings included His return, final judgment, readiness, and watchfulness.

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Mark 16:15–16​

“Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.”

The gospel contains salvation from divine judgment, even where every presentation does not explicitly mention eschatology.

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8. Paul says gospel proclamation includes deliverance from coming wrath​

This is extremely significant.

1 Thessalonians 1:9–10​

The Thessalonians:

“turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God; And to wait for his Son from heaven... even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.”

Their Christian conversion had three dimensions:

turn from idols → serve God → wait for Christ who delivers from coming wrath.

So eschatological expectation was not an optional advanced doctrine. It was part of the apostolic message given to new believers.

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9. Warning people because Christ will judge the living and dead​

2 Timothy 4:1​

“I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom...”

Then:

2 Timothy 4:2​

“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort...”

Again:

coming judgment + appearing + kingdom → therefore preach.

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10. Titus explicitly teaches Christians to live EXPECTANTLY​

Titus 2:11–13​

Grace teaches believers:

“that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.”

This is almost a definition of Church-age Christian living:

live godly now + look expectantly for Christ.

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11. The coming wrath is part of gospel doctrine​

Romans 2:5​

“...treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God.”

Romans 2:16​

“In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.”

That last phrase is crucial:

“according to my gospel.”

Future judgment was not separate from Paul's gospel preaching.

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12. Peter says believers must be ready to testify​

1 Peter 3:15​

“But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you...”

The Christian's hope is inherently eschatological.

Compare:

1 Peter 1:13

“hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.”

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[cv5]

Yes, frustrating ... I think the people with the wrong view know they can concede any point otherwise the whole system falls apart, even when scripture is clear.
The Sermon on the Mount is not about Christ reigning in physical form on earth for 1000 years... that is such a stretch!!

Some are even "chomping at the bit" for end times death and destruction,

thinking they are going to have some high office with Jesus in a not biblically supported millennial reign.

Please ask you pastor if he comports to this list of strident and urgent exhortations.
And then ask yourself the same question.

The core NT pattern​

The New Testament pattern can be summarized almost as a chain:

Christ is coming.

→ The Day of the Lord is coming.

→ Sudden judgment will overtake an unsuspecting world.

→ Believers are not supposed to be ignorant or asleep.

→ Therefore WATCH.

→ Be sober.

→ Be ready.

→ Live holy lives.

→ Encourage other believers.

→ Preach Christ.

→ Warn men of coming judgment.

→ Persuade men to be reconciled to God.

The most concentrated passages are probably:

Matthew 24:42–44 — Watch and be ready.
Mark 13:33–37 — “What I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.”
Luke 21:34–36 — Watch lest that day arrive unexpectedly.
Romans 13:11–12 — Awake; the day is at hand.
1 Thessalonians 1:9–10 — Wait for Christ who delivers from coming wrath.
1 Thessalonians 5:1–9 — Day of the Lord, sudden destruction, therefore watch and be sober.
2 Corinthians 5:10–20 — Knowing the terror of the Lord, we persuade men.
Acts 17:30–31 — Repent because God has appointed a day to judge the world.
2 Timothy 4:1–2 — Christ will judge at His appearing; therefore preach the Word.
Titus 2:11–13 — Live soberly while looking for the blessed hope.
Hebrews 10:25 — Exhort one another increasingly as the Day approaches.
1 Peter 4:7 — The end is at hand; therefore watch.
2 Peter 3:10–14 — The Day of the Lord is coming; therefore live holy and look for it.
Jude 21–23 — Look for Christ and pull others “out of the fire.”
Revelation 3:2–3 — Be watchful; otherwise His coming is like a thief.

So the idea that the Church should be indifferent to prophecy or that Christians should not warn the unbelieving world about approaching divine judgment is extremely difficult to reconcile with the apostolic pattern. The NT does not encourage hysterical date-setting, but neither does it permit spiritual sleep. Its posture is informed expectation, sobriety, vigilance, faithful service, evangelism, and warning.

 

[Revelation1v8]

Hebrews 9:28

Yeah, that could put a different spin on things, couldn't it?

Hebrews 9:28

So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

 

[ScooterJackson]

He’s meant to sit on the throne of the heart and rule the kingdom of the person . But I’m remembering why I disappeared from here . Nothing ever changes same arguments …. Exhausting

You should learn to cast your care upon the Lord and not let things like this bother you.

During the millennium, Jesus will reign as king over Israel and all the nations of the world (Isaiah 2:4; 42:1). The world will live in peace (Isaiah 11:6–9; 32:18), Satan will be bound (Revelation 20:1–3), and, at the beginning, everyone will worship God (Isaiah 2:2–3)