Replacement theology? Yes or No.
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You don't believe there's an old and new covenant? Maybe I'm hopping in on the wrong part of the conversation.
No, this thread is about Replacement Theology that sadly started with some of the church fathers. Men who should have known better.
If the complete fulfilment of the Kingdom is here already - we all should be jumping up and down with joy and happiness, peace and paradise is throughout the world. But obviously this is not the case.
All the believers should be jumping up and down. Jesus our Lord and savior, He is our God, we are His people!!!
That's not how the Bible describes the period of peace on earth where everyone knows who Jesus is. That's the part some of you need to do your homework on.
Right. So then why do the CT's deny the JUDGEMENTS that precede the Bodily Second Coming that Peter and Jesus correlate with the flood of Noah? BTW, this flood was THE END OF THAT AGE.
And to make matters worse, deny the Second Coming itself, and the events that trigger it.
Mat 24:3
Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
2Pe 3:3
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2Pe 3:4
And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
2Pe 3:5
For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe 3:6
Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Pe 3:7
But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
No. But rather it is the CT's that have chosen to destroy the truth of the END OF THE CHURCHJ AGE.
Oh and BTW, since when did Jesus depart His fellowship with the Church at 70AD as the CT's say?
Mat 28:20
“teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.
He's pointing out that there is indeed an "end of the age" and "the end of the world", according to the Bible for people who take the time to read and study it all and know the difference between the two.
It is mentioned by Jesus atleast, agreed on Peter and maybe even Paul.
Jesus said to the apostles that they will rule over the 12 tribes of Israel, Jesus said to the churches that they shall rule over the nations with Him, Jesus said some people will be given authority over many cities, the Apostles asked Jesus if He will now restore the kingdom to Israel. So make no mistake about it, they believed it, and thats just the New Testament, once you go to Isaiah, Ezekiel, Zechariah theres a lot of information about the millennium, but I chose these ones on purpose cause I know you guys like to twist the OT and claim to be interpreting in light of the new.
“If He did then that would mean He lied:”
“Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: all therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.”
Matthew 23:1-3 KJV
Or …..maybe it’s just you being misinformed.
“For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”
Matthew 5:18-
but naw it’s probably just a misprint
remember though he’s first preaching only to isreal who already had a covenant they were born into by blood. That’s why he’s telling them before he died that part and why after the apostles are saying this
“forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: it seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,”
Acts 15:24-25 KJV
a Jesus never sent the apostles out teaching anyone to keep Moses law it’s a different covenant made with israel ( jacobs) descendants only.
“And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the LORD hath said will we do, and be obedient. And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the LORD hath made with you concerning all these words.”
Exodus 24:7-8 KJV
Until Jesus preached the gospel and then died shedding his blood the old covenant had all the authority . His blood of remission had to be shed
“These are the words of the covenant, which the LORD commanded Moses to make with the children of Israel in the land of Moab, beside the covenant which he made with them in Horeb.”
Deuteronomy 29:1 KJV
“Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:”
Exodus 19:5 KJV
Naw it’s not mentioned some use verses and try to create a place for it but honestly I’m bored with this whole discussion gonna move on
Let's just assume this dispensationism is right, still it does not give Christian any authority to support a secular system.
I know, getting refuted is boring and tiresome. When you just dont got Scripture to back up what you say you gotta just IGNORE vast sections of the bible. TERRIBLE system.
yes …. Yes ….. you are brilliant and refuted everything , and I ignore the Bible ect ect But …….I’m gonna let you have that last word and move on now
Amen
“Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
John 8:12 KJV
“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
John 8:31-32 KJV
“Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.”
Matthew 16:24
“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God.
He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:”
2 John 1:9-10 KJV
“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:”
John 10:27 KJV
“If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour.”
John 12:26 KJV
