How do we testify to this word of the Lord?

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So why is He referred to in the Bible as "Jesus Christ" or "Christ Jesus" 246 times? And why do the apostles say 6 times that Jesus is the Christ:

Jhn 20:31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

Act 9:22 But Saul increased all the more in strength, and confounded the Jews who dwelt in Damascus, proving that this Jesus is the Christ.

Act 18:5 When Silas and Timothy had come from Macedonia, Paul was compelled by the Spirit, and testified to the Jews that Jesus is the Christ.

Act 18:28 for he vigorously refuted the Jews publicly, showing from the Scriptures that Jesus is the Christ.

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.

1Jn 5:1 Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves Him who begot also loves him who is begotten of Him.

The Bible says six times, "Jesus is the Christ," yet you say, " Jesus is not Christ." Don't you believe the Bible?
Probably also says Christ died and you probably believe that unknowingly. Inly The Almighty God Can Anoint the Holy Spirit The Christ if you dint know. That mean Jesus has The Anointing to Anoint .if you knew that then you would understand . Being as One, is that written To be ine in Jesus Lord & God? This Christ The Anointing is The Ine that is One in All of Him. If not in Him The Anointed the christ You are Not if Him..The chrust the anointing is The Nation of People, Jesus Son of Man made possible To be One in All that God is. The Anointed The Christcare All His it a Combined Quickened people As Jesus walking in The anointing and All Fkesh must Go into ground To Follow jesus to this completion as he has showed us If himself. And yes Thomas Said exactly as Jesus is Lord& God , you're reading the history book with the best interpretation they could give . But but you're not reading what is happening since the holy spirit is unwritten in men since the days of The Book was put together this is to help us to sustain this world. They told you straight out books can't handle all that Jesus did in the 40 days after he walked his Glorified Quickened Body. I suppose I can't realize why he didn't give the Holy Spirit I made them wait even another 10 days after he went up on a cloud with his arms raised well he had to go and be seated is one reason probably according to his word of course and he is still a blessing from that seat to this day for anyone who wants to receive the Christ the Holy Spirit. So once holy spirit is to received you are One Him and you now know as Thomas he is Lord and God . Also Because Jesus the son of man glorified &Quickened God has the anointing to give aka The Christ . It's two things to have in this world 1 To have The Holy Spirit or 2 To have Not the Holy Spirit . When I say Jesus is not to Christ understand I'm trying to tell you Jesus Has the Christ and this is the Anointing the Holy Spirit this is what men Miss and they're looking for him but don't know they already can have Him and Then know Jesus is God. I know him as Lord and God because of the Anointing The Christ Messiah . And and knowing all the other titles prophesied like High Priest Only Seated King under an order no man has known before but a couple came close to hold multiple positions probably to set the stage
 
That’s an error of logic at best.
How you look at it jesus man was Messiah. Your logical understanding is mechanical you do realize you're reading a history book.
and you know The Quickened jesus is Lord and God Seated High Priest still blessing ,this is not history this is the Holy Ghost in action . Jesus title as man is Messiah again they say Jesus Christ died the flesh man did exactly that! That was a title if a man not the the anointing that died . But the saying is of the old show who he was he was the Messiah he was the Christ he was the anointed one. Now there's only God can have is the anointing too annoint . You you know only God can anoint and he uses the high priest will take a look who's seated my friend
 
Probably also says Christ died and you probably believe that unknowingly. Inly The Almighty God Can Anoint the Holy Spirit The Christ if you dint know. That mean Jesus has The Anointing to Anoint .if you knew that then you would understand . Being as One, is that written To be ine in Jesus Lord & God? This Christ The Anointing is The Ine that is One in All of Him. If not in Him The Anointed the christ You are Not if Him..The chrust the anointing is The Nation of People, Jesus Son of Man made possible To be One in All that God is. The Anointed The Christcare All His it a Combined Quickened people As Jesus walking in The anointing and All Fkesh must Go into ground To Follow jesus to this completion as he has showed us If himself. And yes Thomas Said exactly as Jesus is Lord& God , you're reading the history book with the best interpretation they could give . But but you're not reading what is happening since the holy spirit is unwritten in men since the days of The Book was put together this is to help us to sustain this world. They told you straight out books can't handle all that Jesus did in the 40 days after he walked his Glorified Quickened Body. I suppose I can't realize why he didn't give the Holy Spirit I made them wait even another 10 days after he went up on a cloud with his arms raised well he had to go and be seated is one reason probably according to his word of course and he is still a blessing from that seat to this day for anyone who wants to receive the Christ the Holy Spirit. So once holy spirit is to received you are One Him and you now know as Thomas he is Lord and God . Also Because Jesus the son of man glorified &Quickened God has the anointing to give aka The Christ . It's two things to have in this world 1 To have The Holy Spirit or 2 To have Not the Holy Spirit . When I say Jesus is not to Christ understand I'm trying to tell you Jesus Has the Christ and this is the Anointing the Holy Spirit this is what men Miss and they're looking for him but don't know they already can have Him and Then know Jesus is God. I know him as Lord and God because of the Anointing The Christ Messiah . And and knowing all the other titles prophesied like High Priest Only Seated King under an order no man has known before but a couple came close to hold multiple positions probably to set the stage
I have read your reply, but I cannot see where you have answered my question, which was why you say Jesus is not Christ, when the Bible states categorically six times, "Jesus is the Christ." I ask you again, why do you say that Jesus is not Christ, when the Bible says He is? You say that you are trying to tell me that Jesus has the Christ, but that is not what God says in His word. The Bible says "Jesus is the Christ", not "Jesus has the Christ."

Where do we read that God can anoint the Holy Spirit? He anoints with the Holy Spirit, but He doesn't anoint the Holy Spirit:

Act 10:38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.
 
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I have read your reply, but I cannot see where you have answered my question, which was why you say Jesus is not Christ, when the Bible states categorically six times, "Jesus is the Christ." I ask you again, why do you say that Jesus is not Christ, when the Bible says He is? You say that you are trying to tell me that Jesus has the Christ, but that is not what God says in His word. The Bible says "Jesus is the Christ", not "Jesus has the Christ."

Where do we read that God can anoint the Holy Spirit? He anoints with the Holy Spirit, but He doesn't anoint the Holy Spirit:

Act 10:38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.
he was The anointed one history proves that .
You dont understand The The Anojnted one Now has The Anointing. That being sayd you cant understand That Hesus is Lord &and God Also High Priest under The order Melchizedek. He is no longer the anointed one he is the one with the anointing meaning Only God Can anoint by way of High Priest is Jesus seated as High Priest or not? Jesus annoys he is God Jesus brings a gift He is King. But I don't understand why you don't see that in the scripture s it's saying Jesus is a liar cuz the Holy Spirit Will reveal all things if I share all things and you can't find it your really are making him a liar again . You Ihave to give yourself to Him fully and the most important thing is getting the Holy Spirit do I make mistakes of course I do cuz I Holy Spirit fix him of of course he does does a holy spirit use my mistakes most often it's one of my greatest learning experiences but it takes another holy to work in spirit you should know I never read anywhere in here when two are gathered in His name. I mostly see people in their own name and this is not of Him! I tried to come to you with the Holy Spirit so he can speak to your spirit that you can see I can't come down to a level of an understanding it takes me back to a religious time as a child where I just followed along and try my best to look holy
 
he was The anointed one history proves that .
Yes, of course, that is what the titles "Christ" and "Messiah" mean.
You dont understand The The Anojnted one Now has The Anointing. That being sayd you cant understand That Hesus is Lord &and God Also High Priest under The order Melchizedek.
Yes, I believe that. I haven't said that I don't. All I am saying is that you keep claiming that Jesus is not Christ, whereas the Bible says six times, "Jesus is the Christ."
He is no longer the anointed one
Where are we told that He is no longer the Anointed One? He is still referred to as "Jesus Christ" (and "Christ" means "anointed one") in the very last verse in the Bible:

NKJV Rev 22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

he is the one with the anointing meaning Only God Can anoint by way of High Priest is Jesus seated as High Priest or not?
Yes, of course He is.
Jesus annoys
Well, He certainly doesn't annoy me.
he is God Jesus brings a gift He is King.
Yes, I agree. When have I said that Jesus is not God, or that He is not King?
But I don't understand why you don't see that in the scripture s it's saying Jesus is a liar
Where in the Scriptures does it say that Jesus is a liar? Did you really mean that, or is it a typo? Jesus Himself said:

Jhn 14:6 "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

cuz the Holy Spirit Will reveal all things if I share all things and you can't find it your really are making him a liar again .
Where have I made Him a liar?
You Ihave to give yourself to Him fully and the most important thing is getting the Holy Spirit
Yes of course. We cannot even be Christians without the Holy Spirit.
do I make mistakes of course I do cuz I Holy Spirit fix him of of course he does does a holy spirit use my mistakes most often it's one of my greatest learning experiences but it takes another holy to work in spirit you should know I never read anywhere in here when two are gathered in His name. I mostly see people in their own name and this is not of Him!
Yes, I agree that if we meet in our own name we cannot claim God's presence:

Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them."

I tried to come to you with the Holy Spirit so he can speak to your spirit that you can see I can't come down to a level of an understanding it takes me back to a religious time as a child where I just followed along and try my best to look holy
i am glad you don't want to go back to being a spiritual child.
 
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Probably also says Christ died and you probably believe that unknowingly. Inly The Almighty God Can Anoint the Holy Spirit The Christ if you dint know. That mean Jesus has The Anointing to Anoint .if you knew that then you would understand . Being as One, is that written To be ine in Jesus Lord & God? This Christ The Anointing is The Ine that is One in All of Him. If not in Him The Anointed the christ You are Not if Him..The chrust the anointing is The Nation of People, Jesus Son of Man made possible To be One in All that God is. The Anointed The Christcare All His it a Combined Quickened people As Jesus walking in The anointing and All Fkesh must Go into ground To Follow jesus to this completion as he has showed us If himself. And yes Thomas Said exactly as Jesus is Lord& God , you're reading the history book with the best interpretation they could give . But but you're not reading what is happening since the holy spirit is unwritten in men since the days of The Book was put together this is to help us to sustain this world. They told you straight out books can't handle all that Jesus did in the 40 days after he walked his Glorified Quickened Body. I suppose I can't realize why he didn't give the Holy Spirit I made them wait even another 10 days after he went up on a cloud with his arms raised well he had to go and be seated is one reason probably according to his word of course and he is still a blessing from that seat to this day for anyone who wants to receive the Christ the Holy Spirit. So once holy spirit is to received you are One Him and you now know as Thomas he is Lord and God . Also Because Jesus the son of man glorified &Quickened God has the anointing to give aka The Christ . It's two things to have in this world 1 To have The Holy Spirit or 2 To have Not the Holy Spirit . When I say Jesus is not to Christ understand I'm trying to tell you Jesus Has the Christ and this is the Anointing the Holy Spirit this is what men Miss and they're looking for him but don't know they already can have Him and Then know Jesus is God. I know him as Lord and God because of the Anointing The Christ Messiah . And and knowing all the other titles prophesied like High Priest Only Seated King under an order no man has known before but a couple came close to hold multiple positions probably to set the stage

I think you're trying to describe something that most people here as Christians already know and you're preaching to the choir. We all know that God/Jesus/Holy Spirit are ONE and work as witnesses for each other. That's why the Bible tells us in different instances that all of them had the power to raise Jesus from the dead.
 
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Yes, of course, that is what the titles "Christ" and "Messiah" mean.

Yes, I believe that. I haven't said that I don't. All I am saying is that you keep claiming that Jesus is not Christ, whereas the Bible says six times, "Jesus is the Christ."

Where are we told that He is no longer the Anointed One? He is still referred to as "Jesus Christ" (and "Christ" means "anointed one") in the very last verse in the Bible:

NKJV Rev 22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.


Yes, of course He is.

Well, He certainly doesn't annoy me.

Yes, I agree. When have I said that Jesus is not God, or that He is not King?

Where in the Scriptures does it say that Jesus is a liar? Did you really mean that, or is it a typo? Jesus Himself said:

Jhn 14:6 "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.


Where have I made Him a liar?

Yes of course. We cannot even be Christians without the Holy Spirit.

Yes, I agree that if we meet in our own name we cannot claim God's presence:

Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them."


i am glad you don't want to go back to being a spiritual child.

Now I'm confused. Somehow now, the Holy Spirit now has more power than the Father and the Son according to Frederickdoc?
 
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I have read your reply, but I cannot see where you have answered my question, which was why you say Jesus is not Christ, when the Bible states categorically six times, "Jesus is the Christ." I ask you again, why do you say that Jesus is not Christ, when the Bible says He is? You say that you are trying to tell me that Jesus has the Christ, but that is not what God says in His word. The Bible says "Jesus is the Christ", not "Jesus has the Christ."

Where do we read that God can anoint the Holy Spirit? He anoints with the Holy Spirit, but He doesn't anoint the Holy Spirit:

Act 10:38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.
Acts above: God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with The Holy Spirit .
OT tells more on how Gis aline can only anoint.
Also warns about trying to copy the anointing ! Son of man is key to be Anointed of God alone . jesus dudnt anointed the apostles with the holy Spirit before he keft bkessing Them they were tokd to wait many people heard that and many didnt wait til the holy Spirit did come about 10 days later.The High Priest had to be seated in His Rest and As God on The Throne Send The Holy Spirit As Promised! With all judgement heaven and earth Jesus Has All Of God as a Son of man Glorified God , proven quickened as to Jesus shown himself many Days . Its a complete different life oarah nation of His new everlating creation sharing All he has to them That Aman ..
here is a trick question Who has the anointing of The Holy Spirit God as of Old testament or Does Jesus Have the abounting Holy Spirit ? For whoever has the anointing to anoint is God alone . There is no counterfeit !
 
Acts above: God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with The Holy Spirit .
OT tells more on how Gis aline can only anoint.
Also warns about trying to copy the anointing ! Son of man is key to be Anointed of God alone . jesus dudnt anointed the apostles with the holy Spirit before he keft bkessing Them they were tokd to wait many people heard that and many didnt wait til the holy Spirit did come about 10 days later.The High Priest had to be seated in His Rest and As God on The Throne Send The Holy Spirit As Promised! With all judgement heaven and earth Jesus Has All Of God as a Son of man Glorified God , proven quickened as to Jesus shown himself many Days . Its a complete different life oarah nation of His new everlating creation sharing All he has to them That Aman ..
here is a trick question Who has the anointing of The Holy Spirit God as of Old testament or Does Jesus Have the abounting Holy Spirit ? For whoever has the anointing to anoint is God alone . There is no counterfeit !
Thank you for replying. However, that doesn't tell me why you say Jesus is not Christ, when the Bible says (six times) that He is the Christ. Please could you answer my question. Thanks.
 
I think you're trying to describe something that most people here as Christians already know and you're preaching to the choir. We all know that God/Jesus/Holy Spirit are ONE and work as witnesses for each other. That's why the Bible tells us in different instances that all of them had the power to raise Jesus from the dead.
Parah bring life! this is of heaven alone by Rauch idk how you say, when all judgment authority and power is In Jesus Son Of Man Glorified Quickened and when he returns as king he will say the same thing and the King always brings the gift just like Melchizedek I'm sure the new wine will be very good in Jesus been keeping it vintage for over 2,000 years without tasting a drop but doesn't mean you can't smell it does it but what are we now we we can't have the spirit of living God sharing stuff like that
 
Thank you for replying. However, that doesn't tell me why you say Jesus is not Christ, when the Bible says (six times) that He is the Christ. Please could you answer my question. Thanks.
I did tell you you just don't read well it's about understanding I explained it to you now you're going to say I'm repeating myself he has the anointing he was anointed God see a son of man glorified God only God can have the anointing to anoint how many times should I repeat myself he is not anointed The who trust in him and know him are the anointed of him which can only be the Christ by the Holy Spirit which means the Anointed is Christ not a fabricated translation between two English how in your right mind can you say crisis in English word I know you read the text I gave you all the info already but you neglect to reply to certain things your nitpicking and you're actually lying to me saying I don't give you that reply I'll just call you a liar and let this be true
 
Acts above: God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with The Holy Spirit .
OT tells more on how Gis aline can only anoint.
Also warns about trying to copy the anointing ! Son of man is key to be Anointed of God alone . jesus dudnt anointed the apostles with the holy Spirit before he keft bkessing Them they were tokd to wait many people heard that and many didnt wait til the holy Spirit did come about 10 days later.The High Priest had to be seated in His Rest and As God on The Throne Send The Holy Spirit As Promised! With all judgement heaven and earth Jesus Has All Of God as a Son of man Glorified God , proven quickened as to Jesus shown himself many Days . Its a complete different life oarah nation of His new everlating creation sharing All he has to them That Aman ..
here is a trick question Who has the anointing of The Holy Spirit God as of Old testament or Does Jesus Have the abounting Holy Spirit ? For whoever has the anointing to anoint is God alone . There is no counterfeit !

Here are a couple of Bible verses that you need to consider.

John 14:23 - Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

John 5:21 - For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
John 10:17-18 - 17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

Revelation 22:3 - And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb (Jesus) shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
 
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Parah bring life! this is of heaven alone by Rauch idk how you say, when all judgment authority and power is In Jesus Son Of Man Glorified Quickened and when he returns as king he will say the same thing and the King always brings the gift just like Melchizedek I'm sure the new wine will be very good in Jesus been keeping it vintage for over 2,000 years without tasting a drop but doesn't mean you can't smell it does it but what are we now we we can't have the spirit of living God sharing stuff like that

When Jesus returns as King, here is what the Bible tells us about Him.

Zechariah 14:9 - And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

This is when people will finally realize that Jesus IS God.

Revelation 1:8 - I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Revelation 1:18 - I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
 
I did tell you you just don't read well it's about understanding I explained it to you now you're going to say I'm repeating myself he has the anointing he was anointed God see a son of man glorified God only God can have the anointing to anoint how many times should I repeat myself he is not anointed The who trust in him and know him are the anointed of him which can only be the Christ by the Holy Spirit which means the Anointed is Christ not a fabricated translation between two English how in your right mind can you say crisis in English word I know you read the text I gave you all the info already but you neglect to reply to certain things your nitpicking and you're actually lying to me saying I don't give you that reply I'll just call you a liar and let this be true
OK, so you say that He (I assume you mean Jesus) has the anointing. You say only God (the Father?) can anoint. But that still doesn't explain why you say that Jesus is not Christ, when the Bible says six times "Jesus is the Christ." What I am asking you is why you say the exact opposite of what the Bible says. You haven't answered that question, at least as far as I can see. Are you saying that "Jesus" and "Christ" refer to two different beings? I assure you I am not lying.
 
OK, so you say that He (I assume you mean Jesus) has the anointing. You say only God (the Father?) can anoint. But that still doesn't explain why you say that Jesus is not Christ, when the Bible says six times "Jesus is the Christ." What I am asking you is why you say the exact opposite of what the Bible says. You haven't answered that question, at least as far as I can see. Are you saying that "Jesus" and "Christ" refer to two different beings? I assure you I am not lying.

He keeps mentioning the Holy Spirit and it sounds like he thinks that anyone who is or has been annointed by the Spirit is considered the Christ.

I don't think he understands that the Holy Spirit works as both a WITNESS to God and Jesus. When we see the "Spirit of God" in the Bible, the Holy Spirit is working on behalf of the Father. When we see the "Spirit of Truth" mentioned in the Bible, the Holy Spirit is working on behalf of Jesus. I'm not sure that He understands how God/Jesus/Holy Spirit ALL work together to reveal each other.
 
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I did tell you you just don't read well it's about understanding I explained it to you now you're going to say I'm repeating myself he has the anointing he was anointed God see a son of man glorified God only God can have the anointing to anoint how many times should I repeat myself he is not anointed The who trust in him and know him are the anointed of him which can only be the Christ by the Holy Spirit which means the Anointed is Christ not a fabricated translation between two English how in your right mind can you say crisis in English word I know you read the text I gave you all the info already but you neglect to reply to certain things your nitpicking and you're actually lying to me saying I don't give you that reply I'll just call you a liar and let this be true

I have read your reply, but I cannot see where you have answered my question, which was why you say Jesus is not Christ, when the Bible states categorically six times, "Jesus is the Christ." I ask you again, why do you say that Jesus is not Christ, when the Bible says He is? You say that you are trying to tell me that Jesus has the Christ, but that is not what God says in His word. The Bible says "Jesus is the Christ", not "Jesus has the Christ."

Where do we read that God can anoint the Holy Spirit? He anoints with the Holy Spirit, but He doesn't anoint the Holy Spirit:

Act 10:38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.
Plain To why i said it because the Anointing The holy Spirit here for man to be in Jesus as anointed of jesus God ,he that gives the anointing cus all anything belongs to The Son of man Jesus &glorified Almighty God ,that is the why i said jesus is not the anionted aka christ the title Job is competred now its my turn and others that Trust in Him by His Holy Spirit . In History Jesus Was the Anointed of God as you even posted the scripture .you cant deny its writen . The rest Jesus fulfilled all the scripture according to God's will of in All judgment and all authority and power are his in a whole new created glorified quickened body form never before it a new and nothing Been and this time it's permanent by the will of God for himself and for those that He Anointed with the Holy Spirit they will be as he is .I'm not sure you can find that in the Bible because he puts history to mark his word and it's true but only God can speak truth so when God is in you guess what you can speak the truth, then until then you're just a trained parrot repeating what they've been taught as men to speak. so the saying is true , Let all men be liars for God be true
well if Holy Spirit is in you ,there you go !? That's the only way you'll ever speak the truth to to the Anointing that lives inside of me
 
Plain To why i said it because the Anointing The holy Spirit here for man to be in Jesus as anointed of jesus God ,he that gives the anointing cus all anything belongs to The Son of man Jesus &glorified Almighty God ,that is the why i said jesus is not the anionted aka christ the title Job is competred now its my turn and others that Trust in Him by His Holy Spirit . In History Jesus Was the Anointed of God as you even posted the scripture .you cant deny its writen . The rest Jesus fulfilled all the scripture according to God's will of in All judgment and all authority and power are his in a whole new created glorified quickened body form never before it a new and nothing Been and this time it's permanent by the will of God for himself and for those that He Anointed with the Holy Spirit they will be as he is .I'm not sure you can find that in the Bible because he puts history to mark his word and it's true but only God can speak truth so when God is in you guess what you can speak the truth, then until then you're just a trained parrot repeating what they've been taught as men to speak. so the saying is true , Let all men be liars for God be true
well if Holy Spirit is in you ,there you go !? That's the only way you'll ever speak the truth to to the Anointing that lives inside of me
I am having real problems trying to get you to understand my question. You say again in this reply that in your opinion, Jesus is not the anointed, aka the Christ. If that is true, why do we read these words, six times in the Bible? "Jesus is the Christ." You say He isn't the Christ. The Bible says He is the Christ. No offence, but I will believe what the Bible says about my glorious Saviour. Those are certainly not the words of a trained, but of a sinner saved by God's amazing grace.