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Only those that have been taught that some passages don't say what they clearly say
Only men can serve in a role of authority according to scripture.
No, men have been taught what it doesn't say.
Quote from - 1 Timothy 3:1-13
This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desires a good work.
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife

Quote from - Titus 1:6-9
If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God

Quote from - 1 Timothy 2:12,13
I do not allow a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man
1 Timothy 2 is talking about husbands and wives. Pay attention to Paul's argument.
 
1 Timothy 2 is talking about husbands and wives. Pay attention to Paul's argument.

No, the Lord is speaking through Paul concerning the office of Bishop and who is qualified.

Quote from - 1 Timothy 3:1-13
This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desires a good work.
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife

Quote from - Titus 1:6-9
If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God

Whatever you do, don't let what the Lord says in His Word get in the way of what the popular kids claim.

They might kick you out of the religious clubhouse and tag you as a reengage for daring to believe God's Word over their false teachings
 
Earth has an estimated 7.5 quintillion to 7.5 sextillion grains of sand (roughly 7.5 × 10¹⁸ to 7.5 × 10²¹)

As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David My servant, and the Levites that minister unto Me. Jeremiah 33:22

The Stars-Hosts of heaven: Represents the vast, uncountable number of God’s people, the spiritual seed of Abraham

The Sand of the sea: Symbolizes an equally vast, immeasurable multitude, emphasizing that the promise of descendants will be beyond human counting

Here's a Random fact for you

The difference, mine has a context

Astronomers estimate the observable universe contains roughly 200 sextillion stars (about 2 × 10²³), based on ~2 trillion galaxies each holding around 100 billion stars.​

 
I'm the one trying to help you understand that you need to walk in the New Covenant.
You are in the ditch trying to lead others in to the ditch causing others to stumble and not abide in Christ.



That's the error the devil deceived you in to believing.

Big different between the law of Moses (old covenant) and the Law of Christ (New Covenant)

Hebrews 3:5,6
And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;
But Christ as a Son over His own house; whose house are we, IF we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

Now, there is a new house, the Body of Jesus Christ! Under the New Covenant that the Lord said would come forth, we see Jesus Christ as the High Priest. The old covenant with it’s laws and regulations have been taken away because thru Jesus Christ a new and better covenant has come in to place.

Hebrews 10:9
Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

God said He would make a New Covenant - see Jeremiah 31:31-34
You apparently missed this important detail from the Word of the Lord.

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath Jesus obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also Jesus is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

And with the changing of the priesthood, God’s Word tells us there is also a change of the law.

Hebrews 7:12
For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

God’s people are no longer living under the Law of Moses. Now God’s people are living under the Law of Christ (also called the law of liberty, law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus – see Galatians 6:2, 1 Corinthians 9:21, James 2:12, James 1:25, Romans 8:2)

False witnesses said that Paul didn't keep the Torah

Acts 20

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What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come.

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Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them;

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Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the Law.

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As touching the gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.

26​

Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.

Paul helped to pay for the Animal Sacrifices that were required to end a Nazarite Vow according to the Torah.

Do you believe Paul was a Hypocrite, He pretended to keep the Torah when he was around Jews, but didn't keep it when he was around other Ethnos-Races?

Either Paul is a hypocrite or you are a false witness

Paul is not a hypocrite
 
The claim that the Sabbath was only an Old Covenant institution fails when Scripture's timeline is examined. The Sabbath was not introduced at Sinai. It appears before Israel existed as a nation...Genesis 2:2–3 states: "God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it He rested from all the work of creating that He had done." The Sabbath is rooted in creation itself, not merely the Mosaic covenant...Then, when the Ten Commandments were given, the 4th commandment does not say "create a new Sabbath." It says: "REMEMBER the Sabbath day by keeping it holy." — Exodus 20:8 To remember something means it was already established and known...The commandment connects directly back to creation: "For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth... but He rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy." — Exodus 20:11...So the biblical sequence is: Creation → Sabbath established → Israel commanded to remember → Sabbath observed. The question is not whether the Sabbath existed under the Old Covenant. It clearly did...The question is whether something established by God at creation and included in the moral law is abolished simply because the Old Covenant reached fulfillment. To also note that marriage as well was also included in the mosaic laws and establish in the days of creation but yet we do not say that marriage is fullfilled. We cant be isolating the Sabbath alone. Jesus said: "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath." — Mark 2:27...Notice He did not say the Sabbath was made only for Israel. The foundation of the Sabbath is creation, the command is remembrance, and its purpose predates Sinai. In the book of Revelations 1:10 “I was in the spirit in the Lord’s day” Jesus said he is Lord over the sabbath day and John is busy addressing Jesus himself when he is talking about his experience on the Lord’s day, the Lord’s day is the day Jesus is Lord over which as he said is the sabbath day thus the Lord’s day is Sabbath.
The Old Testament sabbath only applies to the creation of this earth which was a physical covenant so a physical rest.

The New Testament is a spiritual covenant so a spiritual rest.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Jesus took the physical ordinances of Israel out of the way nailing them to His cross because they were contrary to us for they had no bearing on salvation.

So they do not apply in the New Testament which includes the sabbath days.

Which let not person judge you concerning the physical ordinances so I will not listen to them.

The ordinances were a shadow of things to come, and the physical laws was a schoolteacher until Christ came and then we are not under a schoolteacher anymore.

Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Joh 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

Heb 11:16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

This heaven and earth will pass away and there will be a new heaven and earth which is the place Jesus went away to prepare for the saints.

The saints belong to that heaven and earth and celebrate that.

Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

Isa 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

Isa 28:12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

In the New Testament it is a spiritual rest yet many will not hear but they want to judge people saying keep the physical sabbath which they do not have to keep.

Mat 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Mat 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

Mat 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Jesus told the rich man to follow the commandments that have to do with loving people to inherit eternal life for love is the fulfilling of the law and does not mention keep the sabbath day for eternal life.

They had to keep the sabbath while Jesus was on earth for the Old Testament was still in affect.

But after Jesus shed His blood to give salvation we no longer go by the physical sabbath.

The New Testament does not say keep the physical sabbath but says it is taken out of the way.

Mrk 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath.

Man was not made for the sabbath but the sabbath was made for man so it can change.

Which it changed to a spiritual rest.

Or will you judge and not hear.
 
False witnesses said that Paul didn't keep the Torah

Paul stopped following the old covenant and started follow Jesus in the New Covenant when he got born again.
The judaizers hate that about Paul.

The Judaizers were a faction of early Jewish Christians who believed the Old Testament’s Levitical laws still had to be followed by all Christians. They pushed for Gentile converts to be circumcised and were strongly opposed by Paul (including in the incident at Antioch).

Either Paul is a hypocrite or you are a false witness

When the false teachers teach their false doctrines and someone does not agree to follow their false doctrines, the false teachers frequently claim those not agreeing to follow their false doctrines are false witnesses so this is par for course.
 
As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David My servant, and the Levites that minister unto Me. Jeremiah 33:22

The Stars-Hosts of heaven: Represents the vast, uncountable number of God’s people, the spiritual seed of Abraham

The Sand of the sea: Symbolizes an equally vast, immeasurable multitude, emphasizing that the promise of descendants will be beyond human counting

Here's a Random fact for you

The difference, mine has a context

Astronomers estimate the observable universe contains roughly 200 sextillion stars (about 2 × 10²³), based on ~2 trillion galaxies each holding around 100 billion stars.​

So which is it? Sand or stars? Symbolic or exact? Seems you want to play both sides while making very serious accusations about others.
 
Regardless of denomination and traditional teachings.....

Let's see.

One group of people mostly SDAs say that law will slowly be placed on people to observe Sunday as a day of rest.
They have been predicting this for many years but have never set a day or date.
They believe that the world will be divided into two classes.

Those that keep ALL the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus.
And those that follow the beast and his commands and teachings..

God's commandments vs Man's commandments.

Rev 14:9 KJV And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,Rev 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, .....

Throughout history the Catholic church was always seen as the beast and antichrist. All the reformers identified the Roman church as the Antichrist.

The Roman Church has gone into a state of changing the thinking and diverting the attention off itself for the last 200 years. Today she still calls herself the the mother church and has not changed.
She killed people for reading the Bible in the dark ages.
The Roman Church says that Sunday worship is her sign and mark.

If this is all wrong and Sunday means nothing (which is what you think) then so be it..

But if laws are enforced to make Sunday the day of rest then you should reconsider your stance.

It is one of many interpretation of what mark of the beast is. Which One is right ✅️

It is a prophecy that I believe is being fulfilled slowing but surely..

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Why is the Sabbath such a hill to die on? Why did Jesus not say that the Sabbath was one of the greatest commandments? Why is it that Christians, who are in the New Covenant, insist on keeping the law given to Israel?

I pray most days against the Satanic Catholic organisation. There are believers who have yet to wake up, but the organisation itself is evil. Sunday worship was common long before Catholicism existed.

There are no laws proposed or implemented that I know of that enforce Sunday worship. The opposite where I live. It used to be that the nation shut down on a Sunday. Now it's much the same as any other day for many. Shops are open, as are pubs and clubs, and sport is played. No one is forced to attend church.

The world is increasingly secular. Poland is something of an exception but church attendance is not mandatory on any day. It's another SDA false prophecy.

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That's your response to a scriptural reference?

Don't you know the 2 laws:
Love God and love your neighbor
Sum up/support the 10 commandments?

But what's the point in giving you those references too?

I refuse to help you add sin to sin by giving you more scriptures to reject.
I am too old and too tired to deal with people who reject the simplicity of God's word. Maybe I'll get a bit more sleep and be motivated to contend with you and others who seek to impose the law on God's grace. So yeah, whatever.
 
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False witnesses said that Paul didn't keep the Torah

Acts 20

22​

What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come.

23​

Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them;

24​

Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the Law.

25​

As touching the gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.

26​

Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.

Paul helped to pay for the Animal Sacrifices that were required to end a Nazarite Vow according to the Torah.

Do you believe Paul was a Hypocrite, He pretended to keep the Torah when he was around Jews, but didn't keep it when he was around other Ethnos-Races?

Either Paul is a hypocrite or you are a false witness

Paul is not a hypocrite
Paul did talk about eating meat that sacrificed to idols. In some case go ahead eat, in other case for the sake of weak, don't eat.

1st Corinthians 8
 
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We're exhorted to congregate on the first day of the week, which is not the Sabbath.
Wrong.
No scripture commands to congregate for weekly religious services on the first day of the week.

The indoctrinated teachings of Sunday keeping churches will tell you that.
 
Wrong.
No scripture commands to congregate for weekly religious services on the first day of the week.

The indoctrinated teachings of Sunday keeping churches will tell you that.
You do not go to any assembly on any day. And you feed animals on Saturday. Based on your practice, we are all observing sabbath law.
Cheers 🍻 🥂
 
Wrong.
No scripture commands to congregate for weekly religious services on the first day of the week.

The indoctrinated teachings of Sunday keeping churches will tell you that.
Dang you're hard-headed! Exhort does not mean "command", otherwise I would have used the word "commanded".

The irony of you calling me indoctrinated is rich. I part ways with my pastor on a lot of stuff, but it sounds like you're an adventist, and if there's one thing I've noticed about adventists, they agree on everything. I could lump the mormons and joho's in there too.

When you agree with every single little thing your church teaches you, you're in a cult.

Anyway, I'm not motivated enough to carry this any further, so blocking you is just easier.

Yabba Dabba Doooo!
 
Your argument assumes that Israel's laws are universal. But we can't assume that in this discussion. You must prove that Israel's laws are universal, not assume it.
Not Israel's laws but God's laws.

The moral laws are universal

Jesus said i did not come to destroy the law... in Jesus's day which law was He referring to. There was no new Testament written when Jesus said it.

Mat 5:17-18
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
 
Not Israel's laws but God's laws.

The moral laws are universal

Jesus said i did not come to destroy the law... in Jesus's day which law was He referring to. There was no new Testament written when Jesus said it.

Mat 5:17-18
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
And which scriptural passage delineates the distinction between “moral” law and any other kind?