What if repentance is not about feeling guilty, regretful or ashamed? How do you define repentance?

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That what the gnostics claim.

They claim when they sin it was their body out doing sinful things but they themselves had nothing to do with it.
That is not saying that when we sin, only our flesh is sinning.
Nor that our soul was not involved with what the flesh initially desired to do.

A little knowledge can be used to try to impress others.
But it does just the opposite when that knowledge is misapplied and stumbled over.
 
In Proverbs 3:1, it uses the Hebrew word "Torah", so it is certainly referring to obeying the Torah as the way to trust in God in all of our ways it was certainly given in accordance with God's wisdom. Likewise, in Revelation 22:14, those who kept God's commandments are given the right to eat from the Tree of Life, in Luke 10:25-28, Jesus affirmed that the way to inherit eternal life is by obeying the greatest two commandments of the Torah, and in Hebrews 5:9, Jesus has become a source of eternal salvation for those who obey him. Before Adam and Eve had eaten from either Tree, they were at a crossroads between eternal life and mortality where eating from the Tree of Life would have given them to have eternal life while eating from the Tree of Knowledge caused them to become mortal, and in Deuteronomy 30:11-20, the Israelites were at the same crossroads where Moses placed before them a choice between life and a blessing for obedience to the Torah or death and a curse for disobedience to it. Likewise, God placed cherubim to guard the way back to the Garden and instructed for cherubim to guard the Ark of the Covenant, so we have the same choice of whether we are going to repent. The Bible also repeatedly refers to the Torah as being God's way, such as with Deuteronomy 10:12-13, 1 Kings 2:1-3, Isaiah 2:2-3, Joshua 22:5, and Psalm 119:1-3.


The Torah is God's commandments, so please explain how you can agree that the Law of Christ does not replace God's commandments while also taking the position that Christ's commandments replace the Torah.

The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob has the character traits that the Torah was given in order to teach us how to embody, so the goal of Torah is to teach us how to love God through embodying His character traits, which is why the Bible repeatedly states in both the OT and the NT that the way to love God is by obeying His commandments. The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact likeness of His character (Hebrews 1:3), which he embodied through his works by setting a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to the Torah (Hebrews 1:3), so the way to love the Son is exactly the same as the way to love the Father and that the commandments of the Son are exactly the same as those of the Father. In John 14:23-24, Jesus said that if we love him, then we will obey his teachings, if we don't love him, then we will not obey his teachings, and that his teachings were not his own but that of the Father, so he did not teach his own set of commandments that are distinct from those of the Father. Likewise, in John 15:10, Jesus used a parallel statement to equate his commandments with those of the Father.

The reason why God's Word leads us to God's Word made flesh is because he is the embodiment of it and it was given for the purpose of teaching us how to know, love, worship, believe in, testify about, and be one with him through following his example of embodying it, but the reason why it leads us to him is not so that we can then reject everything that he is and go back to being doers of what it reveals to be wickedness. Christ was sent as the promised seed to bless us by turning us from our wickedness (Acts 3:25-26). Someone who disregarded everything that their tutor taught them after their purpose has been fulfilled would be missing the whole point of their tutor.
The life we live in Jesus Christ is not a rule book of over 600 rules that Israel received.

The Mt Sinai covenant was the old covenant which the Israelites agreed to obey (Exodus 24).

Jesus placed us in a new covenant through His sacrifice on the cross, a covenant of grace.

Agape love towards the brethren and even our enemies is the hallmark of a true Christian.

Philippians 1:9-11
And this is my prayer: that your love may abound more and more in knowledge and depth of insight, so that you may
be able to test and prove what is best and may be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, filled with the fruit of righteousness
that comes through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.
 
All that you showed me, and that I understood?
Came to my understanding courtesy of the Holy Spirit.

We have no need for any man to teach us what to think.
Even about what we are being taught by a man.
The Spirit will teach us what to think about all things needing to be understood.
why does Jesus command men to teach us? mt 28:19

Christ and His apostolic church are one in unity! mt 28:19-20
acts 9:4 eph 5:32

The Holy Spirit leads the apostles into all truth (Jn 16:13) they must teach us! (Matt 28:19)

Lk 1:4
Matt 5:14
Matt 6:33
matt 16:18-19
matt 18:17-18
Matt 28:19
Lk 10:16
Jn 20:21
Acts 2:42
Acts 16:17
Acts 8:31
Titus 1:9
Titus 2:12
Phil 4:9
1 tim 3:15
Colossians 2:7
Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught…

thks
 
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Don't listen to men?

Jesus commands us to listen and obey men!

Men are commanded by Christ to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation! mt 28:19

The witnesses of Jesus Christ!
acts 1:8

He who hears you hears me!
Lk 10:16

He who receives the one I send receives me! Jn 13:20

acts 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

acts 2:42 doctrine of the apostles.

acts 8:31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

Acts 16:30
And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

acts 16:17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.

1 cor 11:23
For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you...

2 thes 2:15
Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

to reject them is to reject Jesus Christ!

and commandments!

mt 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Acts 1:2
Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:

1 thes 4:2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.

all the teachings of men!

but you will refuse to believe and obey!

all the teaching of the apostolic church are binding (mt 16:18-29) on all christians includes the 255 dogmas with the decrees of the valid councils!

Amen?
 
why does Jesus command men to teach us? mt 28:19

Christ and His apostolic church are one in unity! mt 28:19-20
acts 9:4 eph 5:32

The Holy Spirit leads the apostles into all truth (Jn 16:13) they must teach us! (Matt 28:19)

Lk 1:4
Matt 5:14
Matt 6:33
matt 16:18-19
matt 18:17-18
Matt 28:19
Lk 10:16
Jn 20:21
Acts 2:42
Acts 16:17
Acts 8:31
Titus 1:9
Titus 2:12
Phil 4:9
1 tim 3:15
Colossians 2:7
Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught…

thks
Right!

As someone here in error lays claim to...
" Jesus is to teach us all directly by the Holy Spirit."

That opens one to demonic counterfeits with no checks and balances.

But if it were true?
That all we need is ourselves and the Holy Spirit?

Why send men to teach?

Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father ​
and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,​

Matthew 28:19
 
That is not saying that when we sin, only our flesh is sinning.
Nor that our soul was not involved with what the flesh initially desired to do.

A little knowledge can be used to try to impress others.
But it does just the opposite when that knowledge is misapplied and stumbled over.
the claims of gnostics rarely meet the truth, you right without the free will consent there is no sin.

thks
 
The life we live in Jesus Christ is not a rule book of over 600 rules that Israel received.

The Mt Sinai covenant was the old covenant which the Israelites agreed to obey (Exodus 24).

Jesus placed us in a new covenant through His sacrifice on the cross, a covenant of grace.

Agape love towards the brethren and even our enemies is the hallmark of a true Christian.

Philippians 1:9-11
And this is my prayer: that your love may abound more and more in knowledge and depth of insight, so that you may
be able to test and prove what is best and may be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, filled with the fruit of righteousness
that comes through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.
Amen! Lk 1:75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.
 
That's why you should stop misapplying and stumbling over the knowledge you thought you had.

Did you know that your kind is nothing new to those who have doing this for a while?

Your only effective moments will be with baby Christians.