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{*note from zone:
i have never believed there will be ANY rapture other than the ressurection and change of our bodies, the living following the dead in Christ at His Second Coming.
i believe the Bible shows this clearly and the pretribulation "rapture" teaching Paul warned against in 2 Thessalonians 2 did indeed come to pass:
that false teaching, resulting in the worship of the devil instead of Christ IS THE LIE, and those who have not understood the sequence of events due to rejection of sound doctrine will be sent the strong delusion. what a tragic end for the 5 foolish virgins.
with that said this rather old set of articles from cuttingedge ministries is very interesting indeed, many believers are familiar with it, i post it here just in case any haven't seen it (cuttingedge still, in spite of the understanding shown in these articles still, as far as i know, holds to a pretrib rapture theory and is therefore suspect, imo*).....this is my position, i understand many disagree.
sorry if this is already dealt with in a thread somewhere....z}
http://www.angelfire.com/d20/philadelphians/fakerap.html
Title: ARE YOU PREPARED IF THE ILLUMINATI STAGES A FAKE RAPTURE OF THE TRUE CHRISTIAN CHURCH?
Subtitle: The Illuminati now claims to have the technical capability to stage the Rapture, they might just carry it out in order to throw extreme panic, confusion, and despair into the hearts of genuine Christians just before their beloved Antichrist arises. ....
(3 part article)
Dear Zone, I have found that pre-tribulationism does not present a defense against sin, antinomianism, and living in sin. One can believe in a pre-tribulation rapture and be a bad person, be a person who sins. Of course, not believing in it, one can still sin. But the Bible and Christ call us to resist sin and to call on Him for salvation, and He wants to save sinners who repent.
In Erie Scott
i have never believed there will be ANY rapture other than the ressurection and change of our bodies, the living following the dead in Christ at His Second Coming.
i believe the Bible shows this clearly and the pretribulation "rapture" teaching Paul warned against in 2 Thessalonians 2 did indeed come to pass:
that false teaching, resulting in the worship of the devil instead of Christ IS THE LIE, and those who have not understood the sequence of events due to rejection of sound doctrine will be sent the strong delusion. what a tragic end for the 5 foolish virgins.
with that said this rather old set of articles from cuttingedge ministries is very interesting indeed, many believers are familiar with it, i post it here just in case any haven't seen it (cuttingedge still, in spite of the understanding shown in these articles still, as far as i know, holds to a pretrib rapture theory and is therefore suspect, imo*).....this is my position, i understand many disagree.
sorry if this is already dealt with in a thread somewhere....z}
http://www.angelfire.com/d20/philadelphians/fakerap.html
Title: ARE YOU PREPARED IF THE ILLUMINATI STAGES A FAKE RAPTURE OF THE TRUE CHRISTIAN CHURCH?
Subtitle: The Illuminati now claims to have the technical capability to stage the Rapture, they might just carry it out in order to throw extreme panic, confusion, and despair into the hearts of genuine Christians just before their beloved Antichrist arises. ....
(3 part article)
Dear Zone, I have found that pre-tribulationism does not present a defense against sin, antinomianism, and living in sin. One can believe in a pre-tribulation rapture and be a bad person, be a person who sins. Of course, not believing in it, one can still sin. But the Bible and Christ call us to resist sin and to call on Him for salvation, and He wants to save sinners who repent.
In Erie Scott