You both say you are lambs but speak like dragons! Shall I show the proof of your fruit? Please say yes, because I have been holding on to all this for far to long.
I don't speak to you like a dragon and I don't call you names.
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You both say you are lambs but speak like dragons! Shall I show the proof of your fruit? Please say yes, because I have been holding on to all this for far to long.
Your understanding of covenants is much like your understanding of Revelation. You see the trees, but miss the forest.
I did agree with some of what you wrote, and went on to tell you what I did disagree with. It's called conversation. Read more carefully:LOL! Do you care to read your own words AGAIN??!!
You said: "I don't disagree. God is a covenant God. But the promises are in the seed...Christ. Thus, all the promises of God are in Him yes and in Him amen."
So, now you're trying to say that "I don't disagree" really means "I disagree"??!!
ONLY the Mosaic covenant is no longer in force. Tons of irrefutable evidence makes this clear.Both the Abrahamic and Davidic covenants are extensions of the covenant of grace in Genesis 3. These were fulfilled by Christ and came definitively with Christ. They have been coming progressively since that time, and will come consumatively at His return.
The Mosaic covenant is no longer.
Since only the new covenant exists, the only way forward for anyone, Jews included, is under a covenant of grace...the new covenant.
So now the question is: What Exactly Did God Do After the 'Limited Outpouring' to Delay the 'Cosmic Signs'
which should have appeared within the next 6-7 years (70th week)?
And I'm perfectly okay with that. Now, if your side could ever learn to express this without disparaging others, you will have learned how to love and fulfilled the law of Christ.Ditto. That's EXACTLY how I see you.
So to you, the 70th week of Daniel tribulation is done and over. Therefore the pre-trib rapture is done and over as well.No. Tribulation was abundant leading up to the destruction of Jerusalem.
I did agree with some of what you wrote, and went on to tell you what I did disagree with. It's called conversation. Read more carefully:
Agree: God is a covenant God.
Disagree: but the promises are in Him.
I went on to explain that the promises are not fulfilled by Israel, but Christ.
Until you guys understand this, you will not understand covenants or eschatology.
I didn't deny that the Davidic and Abrahamic covenants weren't still in force. I merely said they are all part of the covenant of grace...the new covenant...which began to be unveiled in Genesis 3 and was progressively revealed throughout history and fully revealed in the NT.ONLY the Mosaic covenant is no longer in force. Tons of irrefutable evidence makes this clear.
The others are fully in force and eternal in nature. And there is zero scriptural evidence to say otherwise. Your fantasies to the contrary are NOT evidence.
And to say otherwise is..... calling God a liar and therefore a bald faced lie.
I did agree with some of what you wrote, and went on to tell you what I did disagree with. It's called conversation. Read more carefully:
Agree: God is a covenant God.
Disagree: but the promises are in Him.
I went on to explain that the promises are not fulfilled by Israel, but Christ.
Until you guys understand this, you will not understand covenants or eschatology.
Oh yea, everybody on CC knows who is legitimately proclaiming the truth in righteousness and who are the frauds.cv5 may be breathing out fire and brimstone, but he doesn't use double negatives to ask and answer questions.
At least you admit it.Oh yea, everybody on CC knows who is legitimately proclaiming the truth in righteousness and who are the frauds.
It's the slithering and hissing. You just can't miss it.....![]()
I appreciate the discussion. It was mostly civil.Seriously? No one ever said that the promises were fulfilled by Israel. They are fulfilled by God/Jesus FOR Israel because He made certain promises to them that He plans on keeping.
If you ever want your clock cleaned again just let me know.At least you admit it.
Since when are we supposed to love lies and heresies and those who deny Biblically confirmed accurate doctrine and call God a liar?And I'm perfectly okay with that. Now, if your side could ever learn to express this without disparaging others, you will have learned how to love and fulfilled the law of Christ.
You haven't cleaned anything but when the pit opens I'm sure you will find work.If you ever want your clock cleaned again just let me know.
Exactly so maybe you should repent.Since when are we supposed to love lies and heresies and those who deny Biblically confirmed accurate doctrine and call God a liar?
Thanks for the discussion.Since when are we supposed to love lies and heresies and those who deny Biblically confirmed accurate doctrine and call God a liar?
Does not apply when exposing heretics and heresies. Obviously.James 1:26.