Satan has been behind you all day. Or is he in front of you?, hard to tell with all the smoke.
Replacement theology? Yes or No.
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unworthy of the Holy Spirit?? That is Dragon speech if there ever was! You are not the Lord! You cant judge who is worthy. Wow, the blatant disregard of his authority.
Let me ask you a question straight out and I want a direct answer. No wishy washy mush. Do you really think people who are praying to Mary or the saints are doing so because they are filled with the Holy Spirit?! That's NOT what Jesus said to do, it is disobeying His word. I just showed you what can happen to ANYONE, including a POPE, when people choose to make the wrong choices and follow the wrong people instead of the Word of God.
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I do not find a biblical example of believers praying to departed saints, nor do I find any apostolic instruction to do so.
Therefore, I cannot attribute that practice to the teaching of the Holy Spirit.
However, I would also be careful not to declare that every person who does it is unsaved.
The practice itself should be tested by Scripture, and I do not believe Scripture supports it.
What's that saying, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"? I'm not saying what I do out of hate for people, but as a warning as to how subtle Satan can work. The Catholic church endorses those Marian visions, like the Lady of Fatima and the Lady of Guadalupe. It sounds innocent enough when you don't read the transcripts of those visions carefully. Those visions show Mary stating things like asking people to build churches in HER honor, to pray to (the Rosary) and seek HER, in order to gain favor and protection. Do you think the real mother of Jesus would ever say such a thing? When people invoke Mary in their prayers, they are opening a door for any other spirit to come in to deceive them without even realizing it. God/Jesus isn't going to be very forgiving for people who fall into the Marian worship trap. If Pope John Paul II had read His Bible instead of following philosophers, mystics, and people like Manafort, he'd know better. So, Jesus expects us to know His word to escape the traps of Satan. Rejecting what God/Jesus taught in his word makes people ripe to be fooled by Satan and a future Anti-Christ. He'll be as subtle as Satan.
So, if people really took the time to research what really happened AFTER the vision of the Lady at Guadalupe, they'd find that all those Mexicans they thought converted did nothing but go back to calling Mary by the name of their former pagan goddess a short time later. Allowing pagan cultural practices to seep into Christianity was a HUGE MISTAKE and the Catholic church allowed it to happen.
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@OMC, I'll let you in on something else some Catholic churches endorse. Some of them actually offer a 33 day course on Marian Consecration and how to TOTALLY consecrate yourself to Mary. Those classes TEACH people to offer their bodies, souls, and lives to Mary as a means to get to Jesus Christ, and that's no joke. THIS is how SATAN works. Most Catholics don't think anything of it because they've been CONDITIONED to believe whatever their church tells them is safe and if they leave the Catholic church, that they no longer are a member of the church of God. This is NOT how Christianity should be practiced.
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Well well. The PhD Bible answer man didn't actually have any answers did he? And ran for cover when called upon to commit to answer this simple question:
"Please, I beg you, LIST if you can 3-5 significant "eschatological heresies" that you have identified on this thread."
And when defeated and exposed as a hapless rube rather than the astute scholar he claims to be, he hurls fresh Papal bull cow patties in a fit of infantile churlish angst.
Indeed, after 31K posts, you become quite expert at reading the room. And I had @OMC pegged a long long time ago....
Love you too.Well well. The PhD Bible answer man didn't actually have any answers did he? And ran for cover when called upon to commit to answer this simple question:
"Please, I beg you, LIST if you can 3-5 significant "eschatological heresies" that you have identified on this thread."
And when defeated and exposed as a hapless rube rather than the astute scholar he claims to be, he hurls fresh Papal bull cow patties in a fit of infantile churlish angst.
Indeed, after 31K posts, you become quite expert at reading the room. And I had @OMC pegged a long long time ago....