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Yes we grow in faith by hearing the word, but hearing the word is not the origin of our spiritual faith. When God quickens someone to a siritual life he put his Spirit within them, faith is a fruit of the Spirit, therefore we receive spiritual faith from the Spirit and until we are born of the Spirit we cannot have spiritual faith. 1 Cor 2:14.
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This is impossible. One can not be "born again" into the spirit until all sin is removed. One must be "justified (declared righteous) before this happens. thus one must be Justified before they are born again.
since justification comes through faith, faith must come first. and as said so correctly. Faith comes by hearing. Do we hear what the HS is telling us, or do we reject.
Jesus explains it clearly in John 6.
36 But I said to you that you have seen Me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
How do we see and believe jesus? he explained this too.
vs 61 -63 When Jesus knew in Himself that His disciples complained about this, He said to them, “Does this offend you? What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before? It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.
Faith (trust) comes by hearing, which comes by the spirit (who teaches the natural man) we have two choices. Believe and be saved. Reject and not be saved, But have no excuse (romans 1)
since justification comes through faith, faith must come first. and as said so correctly. Faith comes by hearing. Do we hear what the HS is telling us, or do we reject.
Jesus explains it clearly in John 6.
36 But I said to you that you have seen Me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
How do we see and believe jesus? he explained this too.
vs 61 -63 When Jesus knew in Himself that His disciples complained about this, He said to them, “Does this offend you? What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before? It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.
Faith (trust) comes by hearing, which comes by the spirit (who teaches the natural man) we have two choices. Believe and be saved. Reject and not be saved, But have no excuse (romans 1)
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For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the measure of faith God has given you. ~ Romans 12:3
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God. ~ Ephesians 2:8
So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. ~ Romans 10:17
23 “‘If you can’?” said Jesus. “Everything is possible for one who believes.”
24 Immediately the boy’s father exclaimed, “I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief!” MARK 9
Faith is a gift from God that grows as we yield ourselves and grow in Him.
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God. ~ Ephesians 2:8
So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. ~ Romans 10:17
23 “‘If you can’?” said Jesus. “Everything is possible for one who believes.”
24 Immediately the boy’s father exclaimed, “I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief!” MARK 9
Faith is a gift from God that grows as we yield ourselves and grow in Him.
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Romans 12:3
(3) For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
Everyone has been given a measure of faith but, for it to grow we need to exercise it, we need to spend time reading His word. It is good to read about prophecies in the Bible that have been fulfilled and to believe then our faith in God's word will grow.
(3) For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
Everyone has been given a measure of faith but, for it to grow we need to exercise it, we need to spend time reading His word. It is good to read about prophecies in the Bible that have been fulfilled and to believe then our faith in God's word will grow.
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The faith in Eph 2:8 is not speaking of our faith but of Christ's faith Gal 2:16. Rom 10:17 after we are born of the Spirit and receive the Holy Spirit we then have access to faith because faith is a fruit of the Spirit Cal 5. Once we have faith, when we hear the word our faith increases. 2 Pet 2:2, As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that we may grow thereby.
Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Your question was “How do we obtain spiritual faith?
If we hear not the Gospel preached unto us then how is that faith comes? The beginning of our faith comes with believing that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, was crucified for our sins, raised the third day, and now sits on the right hand of the power of God. And this is done by those who preach the Word to those who are lost.
If it does not come by hearing the Word, than where pray tell where does it come from?
In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Your question was “How do we obtain spiritual faith?
If we hear not the Gospel preached unto us then how is that faith comes? The beginning of our faith comes with believing that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, was crucified for our sins, raised the third day, and now sits on the right hand of the power of God. And this is done by those who preach the Word to those who are lost.
If it does not come by hearing the Word, than where pray tell where does it come from?
In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316
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We are justified by faith, but not our faith, it is by Christ's fath that we are justified. Gal 2:16, Knowing that a man is not justified by the law, but by the faith "OF" Jesus Christ, even we have believed(our faith) in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith "OF" Christ, and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law(our acting upon our belief) shall no flesh be justified. Some translations has went so far as to change the word "OF" to "IN". Eph 2:8, For by grace are ye saved through (Christ's) faith; and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God.
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The Spirit cannot teach the natural man because the natural man cannot descern spiritual things 1 Cor 2:14. The only way that a natural man can come into contact with spiritual things is for God to quicken him (be born again) to a spiritual life by giving him the Holy Spirit, Eph 2:5. Ps 10:4, The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God, God is not in all his thoughts. John 6:40, The natural man cannot see or believe in Jesus, 1 Cor 2:14.
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Rom 12:3, The natural man cannot have faith unless God gives it to him(through being born of the Spirit, the new birth). Eph 2:8, is not talking about our faith, but is talking about Christ's faith, Gal 2:16. Rom 10:17, Faith is a fruit of the Spirit, Gal 5, we only have access to the Spirit when we are born again of the Spirit, Eph 2:5. Once we are born of the Spirit and have faith, then as we hear the word our faith grows, 1 Pet 2:2, As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby.