What do you think about Narnia? is it demonic?

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dominicanbeauty

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ONE FANTASTIC MOVIE IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY ME N MY FAMILY REALLY ENJOINED IT :D
 

loveme1

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Our long suffering Lord, gave us all the information we needed in the Bible.

If only we could apply it.

Well, the harvest will come, we were all warned.

God bless you all x
 
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rainacorn

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I am not having difficulties, I am very concerned for others being mislead.

You can turn it, however you like, but the truth will remain the Truth.

God bless you all x
What makes the website bonkers is that whoever wrote it clearly hasn't read the books. The observations about the characters are superficial and say nothing about the journey each of them take. How many of us were not born perfect but still came to know the Lord? How many of us have taken wrong turns in our lives, but still came to know the Lord?

To say that a character is pure evil because they start out bad is like saying you (at your lowest point) could never know God or be in a better situation. It's straight up ignorant.

I really seriously worry about the people who see demons everywhere they look. We are supposed to be free in Christ, not scared out of our minds.
 

loveme1

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I am in no way scared, why you would think that I have no idea.


Maybe some are afraid to admit that, what they have enjoyed, is not what they believed it to be.

After all we all know a wardrobe is for storing our clothes don't we. I guess it is all just good fun, like everything else in this world.

The problem is the deception is so deep.....
That when you offer something against the majority, it is the messenger ends up the "scared out of our minds" type of person.
Never once did i ask for anything, other than you look at this.
I did not try to sell an alternative.
Yet you will pay money for paganism entertainment and declare it "fantastic" !

God bless you all x
 

loveme1

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Well if the writer declares it for himself, then not sure how viewers can deny it.

C.S. Lewis embraced paganism as a “sister” religion to Christianity and viewed it as a necessary link in the “myth turned reality” of Christianity. C.S. Lewis’ view of paganism offers a bridge for the pagan, and a deeper, broader self-understanding for the Christian.


According to Lewis, paganism, therefore, is intricately interconnected to Christianity historically and theologically through their shared “myth.” In this sense, paganism, rather than the enemy or adversary of Christianity, was the precursor to Christianity, the older “sister” of Christianity. As Walter Hooper wrote of Lewis’ concept, “he viewed paganism not as an evil child of Satan but rather as a ragged and wild but essentially good uncle of Christianity.”[14] Such reasoning makes sense from a man who first experienced the touch of “Joy” through pagan myths and later found his way to God in Jesus Christ through those same myths. It is almost as if C.S. Lewis lived out, in his one lifetime, the great history of paganism’s longings as expressed in pagan myths and then found its fulfillment in the historical person of Jesus Christ.
 
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rainacorn

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When you copy/paste websites, provide a link, please, lest these thoughts be mistaken for your own.
 
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Well if the writer declares it for himself, then not sure how viewers can deny it.

C.S. Lewis embraced paganism as a “sister” religion to Christianity and viewed it as a necessary link in the “myth turned reality” of Christianity. C.S. Lewis’ view of paganism offers a bridge for the pagan, and a deeper, broader self-understanding for the Christian.


According to Lewis, paganism, therefore, is intricately interconnected to Christianity historically and theologically through their shared “myth.” In this sense, paganism, rather than the enemy or adversary of Christianity, was the precursor to Christianity, the older “sister” of Christianity. As Walter Hooper wrote of Lewis’ concept, “he viewed paganism not as an evil child of Satan but rather as a ragged and wild but essentially good uncle of Christianity.”[14] Such reasoning makes sense from a man who first experienced the touch of “Joy” through pagan myths and later found his way to God in Jesus Christ through those same myths. It is almost as if C.S. Lewis lived out, in his one lifetime, the great history of paganism’s longings as expressed in pagan myths and then found its fulfillment in the historical person of Jesus Christ.
Rene Girard line one!
 
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I read the Narnia books and I like them, but I'll admit I had a big problem with the fauns, nymphs and Bacchus, because of their pagan, idol-worshipping, evil origin. If he would have kept Bacchus and the drunkenness out, it would have been much better.

Also, Lewis was sexist about the magicians in his series. If the magic-user was female, she was automatically a wicked witch. But if the magic-user was male, there was a chance he could be a good wizard. I thought magic use was forbidden by the Bible, why do Christians write stories about good wizards? I've read other books written by Christians with good magicians in it. Lord of the Rings by Tolkein, and Donita K. Paul's dragon riders series. There's also Stephen Lawhead's Pendragon series.

I guess you are a fantasy hater. That's too bad. There are many good fantasy books and movies that glorify the Lord. Fantasy gives us a glimpse of heaven. It stretches are imagination. The Bible could be considered a wonderful work of fantasy. Of course, the Bible is true, but it has fantastic imagery. Read Revelations, and some of the prophecies in Ezekiel and Daniel.


I write fantasy stories. In my stories it is usually the bad guys that use magic. The heroes might have miracle-magic, some sort of Holy Spirit power, usually my heroes are Christians. They are not always human though. I like to write and imaginary fantasy creatures. I have good Christian dragon characters, fairies, elves, unicorns and mermaids/mermen. Sometimes I borrow themes from traditional fairy tales. I often make it clear in my stories that my characters are Christians and that it is Jehovah God and His son Jesus Christ they are worshiping.
 

loveme1

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The Bible could be considered a wonderful work of fantasy




Where our Heavenly Father tells us this is not good, C.S takes it upon himself to use paganism to introduce people to Christianity.

It is nothing to do with me being a fantasy hater, I simply do not see why it is accepted.

And offered a different prospective, of what so many seem to accept.

People have assumed that I am someone that is scared of demons, and I personally have "issues"

I am a born again Christian, and I do not fear the darkness.

My God is Almighty what is there for me to fear? I come in peace and love. If I am wrong then so judge me God.
 

loveme1

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Psalm 91

1He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

2I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.

3Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.

4He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.

5Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;

6Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.

7A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.

8Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.

9Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;

10There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

11For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.

12They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.

13Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.

14Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.

15He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.

16With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.
 
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Relena7

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Though it has a lot of weird creatures, I don't particularly think it is demonic.
Unless people start creating weird new religions and churches based on fantasy created in the narnia stories and movies, I don't see much harm to it. People just treat it like it is - a story. Like every other story.
 
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KiwiCA

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Loveme, aside from getting your information from THE INTERNET where people can make up absolutely any biased conjecture they like, as opposed to actually reading his autobiography 'Surprised by Joy' or his other books, particularly "The Screwtape letters" (which looks at spiritual warfare) and "Mere Christianity" and finding his BBC sermon transcripts? Instead of just accusing, why don't you look at both sides to the argument, there are plenty of books written by Christian and non christian alike who researched and explain the christian themes in the book.

Find his actual material (other than his narnia books) read them all and come to your own conclusion instead of getting accusatory ideas about a one themed series from rabble rousers who sound like they know diddly squat about CS Lewis.
 
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KiwiCA

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Also, Lewis was sexist about the magicians in his series. If the magic-user was female, she was automatically a wicked witch. But if the magic-user was male, there was a chance he could be a good wizard.
Umm what about the first book, 'The Magicians Nephew" ??? Digory's uncle was the magician and we all know how incredibaly stupid and evil he was and how seduced he was by Jadis (the white witch). So that disproves your 'Lewis is a sexist' theory lol.
 

loveme1

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Loveme, aside from getting your information from THE INTERNET where people can make up absolutely any biased conjecture they like, as opposed to actually reading his autobiography 'Surprised by Joy' or his other books, particularly "The Screwtape letters" (which looks at spiritual warfare) and "Mere Christianity" and finding his BBC sermon transcripts? Instead of just accusing, why don't you look at both sides to the argument, there are plenty of books written by Christian and non christian alike who researched and explain the christian themes in the book.

Find his actual material (other than his narnia books) read them all and come to your own conclusion instead of getting accusatory ideas about a one themed series from rabble rousers who sound like they know diddly squat about CS Lewis.
We were talking about Narnia, this is what is being aimed at children.

And many years ago i did get to see the Lion, Witch and wardrobe on tv, and i thought the idea was ridiculous, never got past the wardrobe idea. And an evil Witch scaring children. And a lion that seemed to be friendly.

I think this is just one of many deceiving ideas sold under the Christianity label.

God knows best.
 

Mrdll

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You know, if you are looking for demons you can find them in church too! They are everywhere and anywhere! However, just like satan they cannot be in more than one place at a time! As for the movie or books of Narnia? I find them very entertaining and yes I can see the Biblical connection in them, including demons. I have seen and heard many things about this subject and I still not only watch the movies, I own them! I am looking to Jesus, not satan!

You know what gets me is that the ones, religious people, who write these reviews like the one you posted are wanting your money after they slam something that was made for entertainment and monitary gain. What I mean by that is that these same people are the ones who beg for your money every week and in some cases everyday on TV! I guess you could go to my job and find demonic activity there too!

Enjoy the movie and see what God shows you in it. Quit looking for demons hiding behind every bush, book, and movie. Just sayin!

Keeping your eyes on Jesus, the author and finisher of your faith.
 

Kimber321

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it was written as allegory..of course, this was also back in the day when hallucinogenics were legal (note: Alice in Wonderland) It is a beautiful story... Now, if you're using it to TEACH your children about Christ...there's just a whole other problem going on. If you're studying it...meditating on it...etc. Yeah, problem!

Christian music always has christian songs on the top 10 christian music charts. :)
 

dscherck

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We were talking about Narnia, this is what is being aimed at children.

And many years ago i did get to see the Lion, Witch and wardrobe on tv, and i thought the idea was ridiculous, never got past the wardrobe idea. And an evil Witch scaring children. And a lion that seemed to be friendly.

I think this is just one of many deceiving ideas sold under the Christianity label.

God knows best.
Yes, because it's not like Our Lord is ever described as the "Lion of Judah" or anything like that! The craziness of believing in the imagery of a friendly lion! Absurd!