muslim belief???

[damombomb]

I saw a document on it yesterday, they seem to believe that giving to poor, and praying 5 times a day and fighting for ali,
is the key, especially dieing for him, they don,t understand that Jesus will set them free, there is no burden in him, if they will
accept him. Their false beliefs burden them down, Jesus came to set all free, if they,d only call out to him

 

[theBibleisawsome]

If you want to know what Muslims believe then why are you asking Christians? "You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart." Jeremiah 29:13. Ask yourself if you are seeking God by wondering about what is true or not. It's better to have searched with an open mind and have good reasons why you believe in Christianity over Islam than to live your life with one perspective. What would happen if you wanted to convert a Muslim? Not much, or you'd just avoid them in general which isn't Biblical. Jesus told us to go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. How could we do that without understanding? And what's the most dominant religion that's not Chrisitianity? Islam. So learn about it. From Muslims. So that you have an accurite picture of what an actual Muslim believes not just Christian here say.

I don't wanna be a muslim. Im curious what they study so I know for future things. Im asking fellow Christian s about what the muslims believe. I follow Christ and he is my Lord. Im not gonna convert to muslim im sorry if anyone got that interpretation from my post that was not my intention. God bless u all in Jesus name.

 

[SantoSubito]

As for the beads they're like an Orthodox Chotki except instead of the Jesus prayer being said on each bead they say one of the names of Allah and instead of 100 beads they have 99. Also just read the Quran, it's not magical and it doesn't have voodoo powers, reading it will in no way harm you.

 

[1Christianwarrior316]

004.157: That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah”;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

005.075: Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!

019.035: It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, “Be”, and it is.

019.088: They say: “(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!”
019.089: Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!
019.090: At it the skies are ready to burst, the earth to split asunder, and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin,
019.091: That they should invoke a son for (Allah) Most Gracious.
019.092: For it is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that He should beget a son.

Above are a few verses that are taken out of the quran/koran.
The first verse clearly denies the crucifixion of our Lord and Savior.
The other verses clearly deny that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And even goes as far as to call the truth “most monstrous!”

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Scripture tells us,
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

From the research I have done so far in the quran/koran, it is obvious who the author who inspired it is!
For anyone to believe that God and Allah are the same are being misled in my opinion.

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316

 

[Shwagga]

I don't wanna be a muslim. Im curious what they study so I know for future things. Im asking fellow Christian s about what the muslims believe. I follow Christ and he is my Lord. Im not gonna convert to muslim im sorry if anyone got that interpretation from my post that was not my intention. God bless u all in Jesus name.

What specific questions did you have as to what Muslims believe? Do you want to know what they believe about Jesus? What they believe about heaven and hell? What is it exactly? I'm asking so we can better assist you here.

 

[AtonedFor]

Any born-again believer who compares the Qur'an with the Bible should soon realize that:
Allah is NOT the God of the Bible ... because of the major disagreements/contradictions.

Too bad that Mohammed and his buddies didn't follow the Lord's WARNING ...
1 John 4:
1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God.
And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

I.E. Mohammed should have tested the spirit who called itself "Gabriel".

Satan ---> false "angel" (demon) "Gabriel" ---> Mohammed ---> Islam

Reminder ... Satan is the most incredible liar and deceiver ever to be on planet earth!
.

 

[theBibleisawsome]

What specific questions did you have as to what Muslims believe? Do you want to know what they believe about Jesus? What they believe about heaven and hell? What is it exactly? I'm asking so we can better assist you here.

Im asking how do they view Jesus is the Son of God . Like what's their view that he's not the Son of God. What do they claim is their proof that Jesus isn't the Son of God.

 

[1Christianwarrior316]

Im asking how do they view Jesus is the Son of God . Like what's their view that he's not the Son of God. What do they claim is their proof that Jesus isn't the Son of God.

@theBibleisawsome...

Hope you and others take the time to check out these links.
BEHOLD THE BEAST
ISLAM 101

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316

 

[GMG42]

I saw on a youtube video that Obama was from another planet, is that true too? Don't believe everythign you see on youtube.


Muslims believe in Allah, which is the same God Christians worship. They do believe in Jesus, but not that he is the son of God. They believe Jesus was just a prophet, and Mohummad was the main prophet that had a vision or something from Allah.

Eventhough their religon is not of God, their religon is peaceful despite what some of the fanatics actions have been. They are peaceful people in general.

Do you honestly believe Yahweh and Allah to be the same God?

 

[Elizabeth619]

Do you honestly believe Yahweh and Allah to be the same God?

No. I don't believe they are the same God. I also don't believe in the Muslim religon. What's your point?

 

[Saul_Durian]

Idk, I can see them both being the same God.

Think of it like a movie (yes I know bad analogy)

But you ask 3 people to describe the same movie, and you will get 3 very different descriptions of the same thing. I can easily imagine that God is the same way. Not saying I believe in the Muslim religion. But they do believe in "the one true God" just as Christians and Jew do.

 

[1Christianwarrior316]

Idk, I can see them both being the same God.

Think of it like a movie (yes I know bad analogy)

But you ask 3 people to describe the same movie, and you will get 3 very different descriptions of the same thing. I can easily imagine that God is the same way. Not saying I believe in the Muslim religion. But they do believe in "the one true God" just as Christians and Jew do.

Since you don't know, it might be a good thing for you to do a little research in the matter.
The Holy Bible says,
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

The quran/koran says,
019.088: They say: “(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!”
019.089: Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!
019.090: At it the skies are ready to burst, the earth to split asunder, and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin,
019.091: That they should invoke a son for (Allah) Most Gracious.
019.092: For it is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that He should beget a son.

The Holy Bible says,
Mat 27:35 And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.

The quran/koran says,
004.157: That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah”;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

Since these verses contradict each other common logic would tell you one of them is a lie. And we know who the father of lies is.
Yahweh and Allah are not the same God!!!

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316

 

[Shwagga]

Im asking how do they view Jesus is the Son of God . Like what's their view that he's not the Son of God. What do they claim is their proof that Jesus isn't the Son of God.

Well their ultimate authority is the Qur'an, the sayings of Muhammad and the lifestyle of Muhammad. The early commentaries on the Qur'an are seen as authoritative to the majority of Muslims, but not binding. So, for a Muslim, they believe that Jesus is not the son of God because in their book, their God said that Jesus is not the Son of God and that Jesus never claimed to be a God and be worshiped, etc.

Most Muslims believe and one could claim that the Qur'an itself holds this view, that when we say "Son of God" as Christians we mean in a biological sense. So in this view, according to that logic, if God has a Son that means God has a wife too. Now you would expect the Qur'an if it is truly from God to accurately represent what we believe, right? Unfortunately that is not the case. The Qur'an completely misrepresents what we believe as Christians and misrepresents even what Jews believe.

So, again to specifically address your question Muslim believe it because the Qur'an says so. They therefore must believe that the Bible is corrupted, even though the Qur'an says that God sent the Bible (using Bible as a loose term) and that God's word cannot be corrupted.. So that's another problem in Islam itself.

Hope that helps answer your question, if not let me know. If you want more details or want me to be more specific then I can be (with references and etc)..

God bless you! Glad you're here asking questions about these important issues.

 

[Israel]

Mathew 12:23-27

23And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?

24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.

25And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

26And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

27And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.


When what we may say is a miracle happens to a muslim, do we say that it is by satan that the miracle happened?

Now most of us here I would hope, understand this basic principle in a black man and a white man here in America. How history was shaped and because of the "APPEARANCE ", the color of skin and still is today.

And yet we do it in religion all the time! We judge based off appearance of "how" one may worship over the content of that man himself! To that I say that if satan casts out satan, no wonder this kingdom on earth can never stand!

There is but ONE Spirit that sustains all. By the flesh, Allah is no better than Jesus if both are claimed to cast out devils by satan. Our Father is in control of EVERYTHING.

 

[Shwagga]

Mathew 12:23-27

23And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?

24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.

25And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

26And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

27And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.


When what we may say is a miracle happens to a muslim, do we say that it is by satan that the miracle happened?

Now most of us here I would hope, understand this basic principle in a black man and a white man here in America. How history was shaped and because of the "APPEARANCE ", the color of skin and still is today.

And yet we do it in religion all the time! We judge based off appearance of "how" one may worship over the content of that man himself! To that I say that if satan casts out satan, no wonder this kingdom on earth can never stand!

There is but ONE Spirit that sustains all. By the flesh, Allah is no better than Jesus if both are claimed to cast out devils by satan. Our Father is in control of EVERYTHING.

You are dealing with things on a very surface level and not considering what Islam actually is and what Islam is all about. Islam is a denial of the fundamental Christian beliefs such as Jesus being the Son of God, we are justified by faith alone, we are saved by Jesus' atoning, sacrificial death on the cross and much more.

The Qur'an clearly teaches that God is not a Father, because He has no children. However, the Bible teaches (from the Hebrew scriptures to the NT) that God is a Father and does have spiritual children. How can these both be the same God?

Islam and Christianity are not the same kingdom, don't deceive yourself by not studying past the surface level. There are so many resources available to help you understand what Islam is and there is no reason to hold to this view that Christianity and Islam are two sides of the same coin.

 

[loveme1]

Was Rome behind Islam? ... Could be the reason why they never got past Rome

 

[dishchat]

Idk, I can see them both being the same God.

Think of it like a movie (yes I know bad analogy)

But you ask 3 people to describe the same movie, and you will get 3 very different descriptions of the same thing. I can easily imagine that God is the same way. Not saying I believe in the Muslim religion. But they do believe in "the one true God" just as Christians and Jew do.

I agree with you that both are the same God. Allah means God. But I believe muslims have wrong teachings and that the angel who visit Mohamet was not Gabriel because he denied that Jesus died on a cross. So they are wrong.They have any prophecy to prove it.

 

[mori]

Was Rome behind Islam? ... Could be the reason why they never got past Rome

My history is weak, but I was under the impression Rome wasn't that much of a player in the 4-6th centuries. If we're looking for conspirators, wouldn't Constantinople look more probable?

In any case, if you're suggesting a relatively small cabal in Rome engineered the rise of Islam, that doesn't require too much machinery. At the same time, however, it wouldn't have afforded Rome any protection. Keeping in mind that there were no clear successors after Muhammad, you have to wonder how the secret was kept. And if the secret was kept, how did it influence the disparate groups of Muslims?

That's the thing about Islam - we have a decent idea of its history. I don't see any reason to suspect hidden hands. We even have names of particular sponsors, if we're looking for a money trail.

However, in some ways, the ideas of Rome are certainly responsible for certain phenomena in Islam. Having observed the difficulties Christians had because they didn't begin with a completed canon, the finality of the Quran and Muhammad-as-prophet were given a great deal of emphasis. Debates over the Trinity must have reinforced his disgust at what he perceived to be polytheism. Beyond that, however, his dialogues with Jews were much more influential.

 

[Israel]

You are dealing with things on a very surface level and not considering what Islam actually is and what Islam is all about. Islam is a denial of the fundamental Christian beliefs such as Jesus being the Son of God, we are justified by faith alone, we are saved by Jesus' atoning, sacrificial death on the cross and much more.

The Qur'an clearly teaches that God is not a Father, because He has no children. However, the Bible teaches (from the Hebrew scriptures to the NT) that God is a Father and does have spiritual children. How can these both be the same God?

Islam and Christianity are not the same kingdom, don't deceive yourself by not studying past the surface level. There are so many resources available to help you understand what Islam is and there is no reason to hold to this view that Christianity and Islam are two sides of the same coin.

When performs something miraculous in the name of Jesus, we know that it is by the Spirit that it was accomplished. But when the EXACT SAME MIRACLE happens in the name of Allah, of whom do you give credit to?

Again there is but ONE Spirit.

 

[Shwagga]

When performs something miraculous in the name of Jesus, we know that it is by the Spirit that it was accomplished. But when the EXACT SAME MIRACLE happens in the name of Allah, of whom do you give credit to?

Again there is but ONE Spirit.

What miracles are you talking about that are being done in the name of the God of Islam? Are you saying all miracles are from the true God? Where are you getting this idea from?

There is not just "one Spirit" in the world.. There are many spirits, which is why 1st John 4 starts off by saying "test the spirits"..