Trying to sneak extreme right wing politics into the Christian faith

[1Christianwarrior316]

YES I have right-wing politics too

Keep the commandments. And one day rule them with a rod of iron, keep His precepts including what Jesus said, yes it sounds a bit right-wing to me. And that’s my right-wing politics.

But the right wing politics of this world is different to Gods.

1John2:15Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

Matt4:8Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;9And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

You know brother, while we are in this world does not mean we are of this world. We are sojourning amongst the tares till the time of the great harvest. As we are a light unto a dark world, for some of the wheat to become politically involved and promote Godly values amongst the tares shows more of a love for mankind than love for the world.
If people recognize Islam as the beast in Revelation it has nothing to do with politics as you would assume. It has to do more with a desire to understand God’s Word by using sound hermeneutics instead of man’s doctrine to come to a clearer exegesis of scripture.
Your thread is titled, “Trying to sneak extreme right wing politics into the Christian faith.” And it seems to me that you’re the one wanting to make it a political issue in this thread because some people disagree with your interpretation of scripture which is based on the precepts of man.

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316

 

[doulos]

Sharia law is not threating Weston society, Sharia law would be lucky to infiltrate the rest of the countries they are in, never mind crossing over into a new border. The Weston world leaders do not fear Sharia law, it fears lunatics getting a hold of nuclear weapons and suicide bombers.

Were you get the west fearing Sharia law I don’t know, it maybe your fear, but it’s not the Weston governments fear, and apparently they are wiser than you.

Luke16:8And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.

When a Weston government starts to do things that are not Christ like, like throw Foreigners out of their country so they can have more, then that government is becoming antichrist too.


So it beats me why you are defending them.

YAWN do you have anything productive to add to the discussion? Don’t you live in Australia? http://www.google.com/search?q=australia+tells+muslims+to+leave&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&ie=utf8&oe=utf8&rlz=1I7PRFA_en
So it’s ok for the country you live in to tell muslim’s to leave but then you criticize other country’s for doing it. Very interesting. As for as the western countries go, you speak with out knowledge. Sharia law is already infiltrating the courts in the US.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/sharia-in-new-jersey-muslim-husband-rapes-wife-judge-sees-no-sexual-assault-because-husbands-religio.html

http://freethoughtnation.com/contributing-writers/63-acharya-s/655-pennsylvania-judge-imposes-islamic-law-on-assaulted-parade-goer.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-pc6FHp0Gc

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1242110053001/judge-rules-american-courts-can-use-sharia-law

http://www.thomasmore.org/news/sharia-law-gains-foothold-us-federal-judge-upholds-government-funding-islam

And just an fyi I don’t mind muslims being here so long as they abide by our laws and don’t try forcing me to live under sharia law. Sadly as history proves when the muslim population of a country gets large enough they start pushing for sharia law to take over.


But as your posts have repeatedly demonstrated you have a propensity to ignore the facts and attack those who hold a different view then you. So I doubt if you will even take the time to check out the links provided.


Mat 6:24No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

I’ll continue to serve Christ and stand against the spread of the antichrist religion known as Islam. If you are comfortable taking the PC stance and helping the antichrist religion of Islam to spread that is your choice. I believe we are done here no sense continuing . Be blessed peterT

 

[loveme1]

islam is spreading, because those in power want it to spread.

Passive aggressive behavior.... "human rights" "political correctness".................

If some of you would take your eyes of the gun and see who is firing................

 

[1Christianwarrior316]

islam is spreading, because those in power want it to spread.

Passive aggressive behavior.... "human rights" "political correctness".................

If some of you would take your eyes of the gun and see who is firing................

Jesus said,
Mar 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.

Do you actually think we do not know who's behind the smoking gun?


In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316

 

[loveme1]

Jesus said,
Mar 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.

Do you actually think we do not know who's behind the smoking gun?


In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316

If I have misunderstood you then please correct me by revealing who the wolves in sheep clothing are?

 

[1Christianwarrior316]

If I have misunderstood you then please correct me by revealing who the wolves in sheep clothing are?

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

 

[loveme1]

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Notice the plural.

You can continue to shout stop islam, but time will reveal all things, and all things must come to pass for good.

Times will get tough, and through this the Glory of Yahvah God and Yahshua will be magnified and strengthened.

These people under estimate the Most High, and over estimate themselves.

They do not realise that he could take the breath from them at any moment, but all things are for the harvest of those that love and obey and accept Salvation.

Rebelling against the Most High is mans biggest downfall.

When he says jump don't even consider how high, by obeying his command you could jump to the top of the mountain if that is his desire.

Almighty Yahvah God and Yahshua our Messiah all glory and praise forever and ever.

 

[1Christianwarrior316]

Notice the plural.

You can continue to shout stop islam, but time will reveal all things, and all things must come to pass for good.

Have I said anything about stopping Islam? More like exposing Islam for what it truly is. And how would you loveme1 witness to these souls that have been brought into submission at a very young age?
You are correct, time will reveal all things which will come to pass according to God's will. But I believe you are mistaken by saying for the good when so many souls will be lost to a religion that denies Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Jesus said,
Mat 9:37 Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the laborers are few;
Mat 9:38 Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he wil lsend forth laborers into his harvest.
As Islam continues to grow the laborers are indeed few. With so many people claiming to be Christians why is it we have failed to spread the Gospel of Christ unto these lost souls while it is one of the fastest growing religions in the world?
And not just the lost souls in Islam but lost souls everywhere. Is it because we have listened to unsound doctrine for so long that a little leaven has leavened the whole lump? Has the salt lost it's savor?
It is no wonder the Lord says to the Laodicean church, "I will spew thee out of my mouth."
Do you not see the sad spiritual condition of the church today due to false doctrine that's turned the truth into a lie?

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316

 

[loveme1]

Have I said anything about stopping Islam? More like exposing Islam for what it truly is. And how would you loveme1 witness to these souls that have been brought into submission at a very young age?
You are correct, time will reveal all things which will come to pass according to God's will. But I believe you are mistaken by saying for the good when so many souls will be lost to a religion that denies Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Jesus said,
Mat 9:37 Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the laborers are few;
Mat 9:38 Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he wil lsend forth laborers into his harvest.
As Islam continues to grow the laborers are indeed few. With so many people claiming to be Christians why is it we have failed to spread the Gospel of Christ unto these lost souls while it is one of the fastest growing religions in the world?
And not just the lost souls in Islam but lost souls everywhere. Is it because we have listened to unsound doctrine for so long that a little leaven has leavened the whole lump? Has the salt lost it's savor?
It is no wonder the Lord says to the Laodicean church, "I will spew thee out of my mouth."
Do you not see the sad spiritual condition of the church today due to false doctrine that's turned the truth into a lie?

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316

Yes, it is sad, but we are all witnessing this because man will not listen to Yahvah God.

islam is being allowed to play it's part in teaching man that following man and not Yahvah God is to their own destruction.

There is no good while we are disobedient, there is no hope without our Yahvah God.

People desire to become gods, and believe he is a "tyrant" and the devil is their helper in escaping his authority....


On this basis we will learn the hard way.


Almighty Yahvah God for his name sake will teach us that he is righteous and all powerful and all loving.

The god the egyptian and others of the bible were worshiping, wanted child sacrifice and allowed wickedness.

Our Almighty Yahvah God, gave his son for our sacrifice in an act of love and mercy.

The whole thing is about good v evil.

Anyone that goes against Yahvah God is evil, even if it seems loving and peaceful by our standards..

Disobedience is not tolerated because he knows where it leads.

He is a jealous Yahvah God and he will not allow this evil to take those that love and obey him.


That is why we are given the 10 commandments and why we are told the 7 things he detests.

Yahshua the Messiah came to bring salvation for our sins. Everything happens for a reason and it all leads to good for those that accept.


Voting in a "Christian" leader will not change destiny, for anyone seeking such position is of this world.....

Those of us that trust in the Most High know it is not our place to bring the world to order, it is about spreading the news of Salvation and love from our creator, Our Father , Our loving Yahvah God.

 

[Consumed]

God in His wisdom revels the Son to whom He chooses. Meantime love as He does, unconditionally. God gives the seed, one plants, another waters however it is God who brings the increase. So, what are we sowing or watering, Gods seed?

ABC christianity

 

[doulos]

islam is spreading, because those in power want it to spread.

Islam is growing because the church has failed.
Mat 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
The church was given the key we have no one but ourselves to blame for what has been loosed. Much damage has already been done and it may already be to late to repair the damage. But as Christians it is our duty to stand against the antichrist religion of Islam. Who wants to stand before God on judgment day and say I didn’t stand against it because to do so would be politically incorrect? Not I!

Passive aggressive behavior.... "human rights" "political correctness".................

If some of you would take your eyes of the gun and see who is firing................

When it comes to Islam it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to recognize who is behind it. Islam teaches the exact opposite of the Gospel. If we continue to allow it to spread, Islam will force all to become antichrists or perish for their refusal. THE false prophet Muhammad started this false religion and by his own admission admits he was deceived by Jinns (supernatural creatures).

2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Like I said it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to be able to recognize who is behind the gun. Who besides satan would want to start a religion that teaches the exact opposite of the gospel and requires all it’s followers to become antichrists using violence to force the rest of the world into submission?

 

[Consumed]

If we continue to allow it to spread, Islam will force all to become antichrists or perish for their refusal.

if we allow?? Islam will force?? What happens??

And jesus is ??

 

[peterT]

I have a palestinian muslim next door to me. We talk all the time, he is very anti-jewish (they did alot to hurt his family when they lived outside jerusalem, so I can see why from a non biblical viewpoint.

I no more want to through him out of my country than I do jews, or catholics.

Your disrespecting a political party because of a few bad apples from some other country. That is wrong.

You yelling at people who yuou say hate, and call it a sin, hate, when you are doing the very thing your preaching against by hating a political group. and not just calling out a few bad apples in that group., there are bad apples in all groups. This is sorta hypocritical is it not

Interesting

Quote me where I am shouting at someone, or are you just making it up.

Quote me where I am being a hypocrite or are you just making it up too.

I have touched a nerve in you, offended your right wing politics or offended your love for democracy and the American way/dream or something.

“Hating a political group. And not just calling out a few bad apples in that group”

No that’s not right; I hate all political and right wing politics because they are all bad apples.

As the Bible says all the kingdoms of the world and the glory of then belong to the devil.Matt8:4

So if the kingdoms belong to the devil so dose they politics. love one and hate the other Jesus said.matt6:24.

“This is sorta hypocritical is it not”

I don’t think so unless you can show me from scripture.

PS

may be your mixing up me shouting at someone, with me preaching from the roof tops.

Matt10:27What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.

 

[doulos]

if we allow?? Islam will force?? What happens??

Islam is growing because the church has failed.
Mat 16:19And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
The church was given the key we have no one but ourselves to blame for what has been loosed. Much damage has already been done and it may already be to late to repair the damage. But as Christians it is our duty to stand against the antichrist religion of Islam.

And jesus is ??

The One who gave us the keys to the kingdom, placing the responsibility in our hands to spread the gospel and stand against evil in this world.

Rev 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen
Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Considering the condition of the world it doesn't look like we are doing a very good job does it.

 

[cfultz3]

Just throwing these titbits out there and are worth your time to verify:

How many know that the Mahii that some Muslims look for is very descriptive of the antichirst that we are to look out for?
How many know that the prophet which shall came along with this Mahdi is named Jesus, our false prophet?
How many know that it is by beheadment that these Muslims kill those they see as infidels? What does it say in Revelation about the saints being beheaded?
How many know that the name of their god turned sideways looks very similar to the number "666"?
How many know that their prophet was taught his religion by demons (jenns), as he admits?
How many know that the Iranian president believes he has been chosen to bring in the Mahdi through devastation? Do you think he is building those bombs for any other reason then to bring in his christ?

 

[doulos]

Just throwing these titbits out there and are worth your time to verify:

How many know that the Mahii that some Muslims look for is very descriptive of the antichirst that we are to look out for?

Which of the following verses tells us to look out for the antichrist that is similar to the muslim madhi?
1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
As we can see from the only 4 verses in Scripture that use terms antichrist and antichrists that there are many not just one and they have been in the world since John first wrote about them. Sadly due to man’s doctrines there is much confusion about antichrists. As a result many or so busy looking over their shoulder for this boogieman aka “the Antichrist” they fail to recognize the people of the beast (beasts are kingdom not the Antichrist) are staring them in the eye waiting for the right moment to pounce and take their head
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How many know that the prophet which shall came along with this Mahdi is named Jesus, our false prophet?

According to muslims Jesus was only a prophet. They expect Him to return with their Mahdi. They are mistaken their Madhi will never materialize and Jesus was not just a prophet, He is the Son of God. Why do you say He is our false prophet? If you are referring to THE false prophet in Rev that is cast into the lake of fire wouldn’t Muhammad be THE false prophet? Wasn’t he the one deceived by Jinns into starting a false religion that teaches the exact opposite of the gospel and requiring all of his followers to believe God has no Son making them all antichrists?

How many know that it is by beheadment that these Muslims kill those they see as infide false prophet Muhammad ls? What does it say in Revelation about the saints being beheaded?

Yes beheading is one of the methods they are told to use. It might also be worth noting that there is at least one verse in the quran that specifically targets the people (Christians and Jews) of the book (Bible). I believe it is sura9:29-30 if my memory serves me correctly.

How many know that the name of their god turned sideways looks very similar to the number "666"?

HERE is an interesting article that discusses that.

How many know that their prophet was taught his religion by demons (jenns), as he admits?

Yes THE false prophet byMuhammad by his own admission was deceived by Jinns (demons), a quick google search will reveal quotes taken from the quran.

How many know that the Iranian president believes he has been chosen to bring in the Mahdi through devastation? Do you think he is building those bombs for any other reason then to bring in his christ?

Nothing more then a mad man who has been deceived. He follows the antichrist belief system started by THE false prophet Muhammad and believes Islam should conquer the world bringing about their falsely prophesied Mahdi. Of course we all know their prophecies are not real. Their prophets are not real prophets but false prophets. Will Irans president succeed in creating another world war prior to Christ’s return? Only time will tell.

 

[cfultz3]

How many know that the prophet which shall came along with this Mahdi is named Jesus, our false prophet?

According to muslims Jesus was only a prophet. They expect Him to return with their Mahdi. They are mistaken their Madhi will never materialize and Jesus was not just a prophet, He is the Son of God. Why do you say He is our false prophet? If you are referring to THE false prophet in Rev that is cast into the lake of fire wouldn’t Muhammad be THE false prophet? Wasn’t he the one deceived by Jinns into starting a false religion that teaches the exact opposite of the gospel and requiring all of his followers to believe God has no Son making them all antichrists?

Yes, according to Muslims, Jesus (the Scriptural Jesus) was only a phophet. Hence, why I said "the prophet which shall come along with this Mahdi". They teach that this prophet Jesus (who is under their christ, the Mahdi) will go out and convert Jews and Christians to Islam, and those who will not convert, he will kill them. Their Jesus is not our Jesus, accordingly, their Jesus will be the prophet who proclaims the Islamic christ named Mahdi.

So, that is the reason why I say their Jesus is our false prophet, that Jesus will preach about a false christ named Mahdi.

 

[JimJimmers]

When a right-wing government wants to throw out Foreigners and Muslims so they can continue their lifestyle to which they have become accustom too. That sounds so Christ like “NOT”.

Luke6:29And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also30Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.

Sharia law is not threating France, and yet if the extreme right-wing got in to government they would throw out Foreigners and Muslims out of the country.

And as for which side I’m on, I am on the Lords side, how about you.

So Peter, by your logic, all governments should follow Luke 6:29 and disband the police forces? Or maybe just not enforce any assault or anti-theft laws? Jesus was telling His disciples to not resist evil, not telling governments how to protect citizenry. I'm not suggesting we toss muslims out of western countries, but your argument is invalid.

 

[1Christianwarrior316]

if we allow??

The church has allowed the beast of Islam to grow due to being spiritually lukewarm. And because of lukewarmness and not knowing how to witness to these people many souls shall be lost. That is why Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in the world.

Islam will force??

Yes. Islam means submission and by the threat of dying many people submit. The people that reject this religion are called infidels and are subject to death. Islam gives the believer no chance to seek the truth for in doing so they again are subject to death. Would you not consider that a persons free will to seek the truth and forced into believing a religion not being forceful?

What happens??

What happens is Islam will continue to grow and continue to consume more and more. And many souls will lose eternal life.

And jesus is ??

AndJesus is, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, The Prince of Peace, Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Lamb of God. Amen. Amen.

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316

 

[Consumed]

The church has allowed the beast of Islam to grow due to being spiritually lukewarm. And because of lukewarmness and not knowing how to witness to these people many souls shall be lost. That is why Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in the world.
Yes. Islam means submission and by the threat of dying many people submit. The people that reject this religion are called infidels and are subject to death. Islam gives the believer no chance to seek the truth for in doing so they again are subject to death. Would you not consider that a persons free will to seek the truth and forced into believing a religion not being forceful?

What happens is Islam will continue to grow and continue to consume more and more. And many souls will lose eternal life.


AndJesus is, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, The Prince of Peace, Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Lamb of God. Amen. Amen.

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316

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