Same sex marriage is an abomination and if you support it you are not a christian

[Nattmaran]

why are there people on this forum (a christian forum) showing their support for same sex marriage.

I do find that far to few on this forum supports same sex marrige. But I am glad that it is becoming more accepted and that the more open minded christians are not afraid to speak up.

its wrong. praise God a majority of people here still reject and oppose the gay agenda and their immoral turns.

Lots of things are "wrong" in the bible. But it is written a very long time ago and can't be applied to our time. Noone does that. And please... don't make me bring up examples of stoning and slavery... again.

but if someone says they support same sex marriage, id automatically say they are not a genuine saved christian, and have fallen for the devils lies. if a person really was a christian the Holy Spirit would have put it in their mind that homosexuality was a sin.

Ah... so if they do not share your views on the world they are THE DEVIL. Simple way of life... I would also be like that... but I find that narrow minded people are both scary and lost so I rather listen to my heart and pray to Jesus for guidance that listen to you and your likes.

and please no supporters of this abomination tell me that i have no love or no compassion etc.

I believe you have love and compassion. You are just a bit narrow minded.

because quite frankly homosexuality is disgusting and is 100% oppose to God's plan and was not meant to be.

I find some sort of food disgusting, I find your views on homosexuality disgusting, I find the parts in the bible where women are treated like inferior beings disgusting. But that does not make me say that they are not a part of Gods plan.

God hates sin. this is how true christians should feel in regards to this topic.

I think it is your disgust that makes you say this.

 

[GOD_IS_LOVE]

Lots of things are "wrong" in the bible. But it is written a very long time ago and can't be applied to our time.

Excuse me, but your profile says you're a Christian. Did you hear that the Bible is the Word of God, applicable to all times and all places? If you don't believe that, by what do you guide your life as a Christian?

"Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away." (Matthew 24:35)

Noone does that.

Maybe no one that you know.

"Blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” (Luke11:28)

 

[Strong1]

I think the OP should speak to sin as sin. Yes, same sex marriage is an abomination. This is true. God hates sin. Period. so really if you condone ANY type of sin, your Christianity is questionable.
It amuses me how, we tend to not have discussions like, "Lying is a sin, so if you condone it, then your Christianity is in question." See if this were the topic, then people like Nattamaran would probably have no argument. But let me propose another question if I may, How could any christian condone a sin such as same sex marriage? You say, because gays have rights just like Christians do? Would you feel that same right goes to one who's sexual desires steer toward an animal? Or child? Any sexual affection that desires ANYONE/THING other than what God created from the beginning. (male and female) is a perversion of God given sexual desires.


And no, people are not born gay!
There are many times that evil, and perversion presents itself into my thought life. It's what I do with those thoughts that can become sin.

 

[FSUBoy966]

I think the OP should speak to sin as sin. Yes, same sex marriage is an abomination. This is true. God hates sin. Period. so really if you condone ANY type of sin, your Christianity is questionable.
It amuses me how, we tend to not have discussions like, "Lying is a sin, so if you condone it, then your Christianity is in question." See if this were the topic, then people like Nattamaran would probably have no argument. But let me propose another question if I may, How could any christian condone a sin such as same sex marriage? You say, because gays have rights just like Christians do? Would you feel that same right goes to one who's sexual desires steer toward an animal? Or child? Any sexual affection that desires ANYONE/THING other than what God created from the beginning. (male and female) is a perversion of God given sexual desires.


And no, people are not born gay!
There are many times that evil, and perversion presents itself into my thought life. It's what I do with those thoughts that can become sin.

Considering every medical and psychological group in America has called aversion therapy unethical and dangerous, clearly science doesn't agree with you saying "People are not born gay!"

And you can't compare having sex with a girl (if you're a girl) with having sex with an animal or child. Two consenting adults is different from a consenting adult man and a dog, or a consenting adult man and a 12 year old girl. There are clear psychological and philological reasons why a child or animal cannot consent to sex with an adult human. And before you start talking about incest, may I remind you that having sex with your first cousin is still legal in many states. And marrying them. If far right Republican Christians REALLY cared about what the Bible said, they'd get those laws overturned before they attack same sex marriage. This is just hatred, plain and simple.

 

[Sose]

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[Strong1]

Considering every medical and psychological group in America has called aversion therapy unethical and dangerous, clearly science doesn't agree with you saying "People are not born gay!"

And you can't compare having sex with a girl (if you're a girl) with having sex with an animal or child. Two consenting adults is different from a consenting adult man and a dog, or a consenting adult man and a 12 year old girl. There are clear psychological and philological reasons why a child or animal cannot consent to sex with an adult human. And before you start talking about incest, may I remind you that having sex with your first cousin is still legal in many states. And marrying them. If far right Republican Christians REALLY cared about what the Bible said, they'd get those laws overturned before they attack same sex marriage. This is just hatred, plain and simple.

God hates SIN. I couldnt care less what science says. God says Two people of the same sex to lay down with each other sexually as a man and a woman would is an ABOMINATION. Get upset all you want, at the end of the day it is God who is correct. Not you, or anyone else who wants to follow after sin, or condone it.

Just because you cant accept the truth does not exempt it from being what it is. truth.

 

[FSUBoy966]

God hates SIN. I couldnt care less what science says. God says Two people of the same sex to lay down with each other sexually as a man and a woman would is an ABOMINATION. Get upset all you want, at the end of the day it is God who is correct. Not you, or anyone else who wants to follow after sin, or condone it.

Just because you cant accept the truth does not exempt it from being what it is. truth.

Ooo, you mad, huh? Just because you believe something doesn't make it truth. Sorry...

 

[Strong1]

Ooo, you mad, huh? Just because you believe something doesn't make it truth. Sorry...

Yes, you sound like your about 20 years old....... You could never make me mad, I am perfectly sane.......God's word will forever stand true. I believe what God says. If you have a problem with truth, ask God to deal with your heart on why you accept anything other than truth.

 

[FSUBoy966]

you're*

I just think it's funny that you're so sure that you're right and that I'm wrong. The best part is, we both read the same Bible. I guess I just focus on the love parts and you focus on the spiteful angry parts.

 

[Strong1]

you're*

I just think it's funny that you're so sure that you're right and that I'm wrong. The best part is, we both read the same Bible. I guess I just focus on the love parts and you focus on the spiteful angry parts.

God is spiteful and angry?

 

[FSUBoy966]

that's how HUMANS have portrayed Him in the Bible. It wasn't exactly puppies and rainbows that drowned the world with a flood or gave Deborah visions of a woman driving a stake through her enemy's head... God is an angry God in the Old Testament. If you don't see that... I don't even know. After Eve ate that apple, God isn't really shown to be too happy with human beings as a whole until Jesus.

 

[Strong1]

So now that Jesus came, all is changed? Now God is okay with certain sins? His ways are now changed? You need to read the Word with understanding my friend.

 

[sadlonelymissjennifer]

Hmmm, my Bible says we are to love thy neighbor. Not sure what yours says. That is being judgmental to not love all regardless.

 

[Strong1]

Hmmm, my Bible says we are to love thy neighbor. Not sure what yours says. That is being judgmental to not love all regardless.

See, your comment is so typically uninformed.

why would you say it is judgemental to not love all regardless? Did I ever say anything about not loving those who are in same sex marriages? Did I.
Why do you assume that if one does not agree with someones actions or behaviour that means it is non loving? How ignorant and foolish do you sound.
Even parents at times do not condone their childrens behaviour........does that mean love is lost?
this conversation has nothing to do with loving someone, we are talking about condoning sin.
Where do you even come from with that?

This is exactly why some call themselves christians and lead others astray by their false teachings of tolerance where sin should be rebuked.

You think God is so loving that He will permit you to live against his will, and still be in good standing with Him?
Ya right. He is a much better Father than any one of us could be, and none of us would watch our children stray in to sinful areas and smile and act like it's OKAY. Please.
God loves all. He does not love sin. we should be striving to be like Him.

 

[NoFallTooFar]

No, the whole mixed fabrics thing was about not combining two different garments. This was done to mantian a state of holiness, because the Israelites were to separate themselves from other people. The state of holiness was necessary so that God could dwell with the Israelites. However, since the death and ressurrection of Jesus, we're not longer under the levitical sacrifice system. The Jews and Gentiles have become one people, united by Christ. The whole wearing mixed fabrics was a part of the old Levitical system, which is about obediance and the Israelites separating themselves and mantianing holiness so that God could dwell with them.

As for "not shaving their beard," the passage you're referring to is not really about shaving in the sense that we think of shaving today. Let me quote the passage first.

You shall not round off the hair on your temples or mar the edges of your beard.
Leviticus 19:27

The phrase "round off the hair" means to violently rip the hair out of your head. This was a ritual done by other tribes in the land as a (strange) way to worship pagan gods. I don't know of anyone who goes around violently ripping their hair out as an act of worshiping a pagan god, so I generally don't think we need to be worrying about this.

As far as homosexuality is concerned, we are called to love everyone, that includes homosexuals. Yes, homosexuality is a sin, and it's clear as day throughout the old and new testaments. I think my personal website sums up the stance of homosexuality. In my opinion, the problem in society isn't the growing community of homosexuals, or homosexual supporters, it's how we're preaching against it. Pointing fingers and saying "You're sinning and going to hell" isn't going to bring the homosexuals to repentance. Not only that, but that's an incomplete and inaccurate picture of what Christianity is all about.


Homosexuality

^This is a link to my website if anyone is interested.

No. in the OT law, shaving your beard was a sin, I however, shave anyways. The thing is, we all sin. Might not be as often, but we do.

I agree with your stance on homosexuality.

 

[megaman125]

Considering every medical and psychological group in America has called aversion therapy unethical and dangerous, clearly science doesn't agree with you saying "People are not born gay!"

And you can't compare having sex with a girl (if you're a girl) with having sex with an animal or child. Two consenting adults is different from a consenting adult man and a dog, or a consenting adult man and a 12 year old girl. There are clear psychological and philological reasons why a child or animal cannot consent to sex with an adult human. And before you start talking about incest, may I remind you that having sex with your first cousin is still legal in many states. And marrying them. If far right Republican Christians REALLY cared about what the Bible said, they'd get those laws overturned before they attack same sex marriage. This is just hatred, plain and simple.

No, science does not have evidence that people are born gay.There's no evidence for a gay gene, and if people were born gay, then the doctor would be able to tell at birth, if the baby is gay.

Homosexuality is a sin, plain and simple. There's no getting around this. Just like we aren't going to sit here and try to justify any other sin.

No. in the OT law, shaving your beard was a sin, I however, shave anyways. The thing is, we all sin. Might not be as often, but we do.

I agree with your stance on homosexuality.

No, shaving your beard was not a sin in the OT. Again, that passage is talking about violently ripping out your hair. If shaving your beard was a sin, then why in Leviticus does it command lepers to shave all their hair? Shaving is not the sin here, worshiping pagan gods by violently ripping out your hair is what the sin is here.

 

[Friend63]

I agree totally.

 

[NoFallTooFar]

No, science does not have evidence that people are born gay.There's no evidence for a gay gene, and if people were born gay, then the doctor would be able to tell at birth, if the baby is gay.

Homosexuality is a sin, plain and simple. There's no getting around this. Just like we aren't going to sit here and try to justify any other sin.



No, shaving your beard was not a sin in the OT. Again, that passage is talking about violently ripping out your hair. If shaving your beard was a sin, then why in Leviticus does it command lepers to shave all their hair? Shaving is not the sin here, worshiping pagan gods by violently ripping out your hair is what the sin is here.

Many homosexuals also say that homosexuality was a form of pagan worship.

I'm not saying not to shave, but I'm not gonna justify it. I'm humble enough to admit I have sin.

 

[Alex314]

"I am the Truth." (Jesus Christ)

"I am the truth." (AZ)
AZ - I Am the Truth - YouTube
Blanket statements like that really don't mean anything to the majority of the world who isn't Christian, you know.

Because your viewpoint on truth is "Anything goes."

No, my viewpoint on the truth is that it is out there somewhere and it it our duty to find it. The truth is cold and hard, the truth is the universe couldn't care less about us. The truth is that the universe is governed by laws that we don't yet understand why or how those laws came to be, but such laws explain the expansion of the universe from a single point 14 billion years ago. That is truth. The truth is that we humans are one amongst billions of species to share a planet wracked by disasters caused by geological and meteorological forces against which we are totally powerless. That is the truth.
The truth hurts. But that is no reason to avoid it.

How could any christian condone a sin such as same sex marriage? You say, because gays have rights just like Christians do? Would you feel that same right goes to one who's sexual desires steer toward an animal? Or child? Any sexual affection that desires ANYONE/THING other than what God created from the beginning. (male and female) is a perversion of God given sexual desires.

If you equate homosexuality with pedophilia and zoophilia (bestiality) then I am allowed to equate religion with fanatics and suicide bombers. You really ought to make sure your argument is well constructed before you voice your opinion.

And no, people are not born gay!

Indeed, people are born asexual. Babies have no sexual inclinations whatsoever. Young children have no sexual inclinations whatsoever. It is only when puberty hits that one's sexual orientation develops.

No, science does not have evidence that people are born gay.There's no evidence for a gay gene, and if people were born gay, then the doctor would be able to tell at birth, if the baby is gay.

There is no way to tell at birth either whether a person will be left or right handed, and there are no left or right handed gene. Should we then say that left-handed people choose to be that way?
The thing is that not only does one have genes, there is also the field of epigenetics, which studies how the environment can turn on or shut off certain genes during development, and such changes can explain why two identical twins raised under different circumstances can mean one is gay and the other is not. However, the fact that if one identical twin is gay and that there is a 50% chance that the second twin is gay too, shows a very strong correlation that yes, homosexuality is in part tied to genes.

God hates SIN. I couldnt care less what science says.

I'm guessing when the doctors say that you have a cancer and that you'll need radiotherapy treatment, you'll tell them "No thanks, I don't believe in that science stuff, I'll use faith healing" then? Funny how people don't care about science despite its everyday presence in our everyday lives. Anything with electricity? Science. Plastics and polymers? Science. Internet and telephone? Science. Our understanding of the stars? Science. Our ability to predict earthquakes and volcano eruptions? Science. Without science, you would have none of that. Without science, you would not have been able to type onto a plastic keyboard to activate piezoelectric receptors to send electric messages to a computer chip interpreting the binary code to carry out instructions such as making letters appear on a screed due to our understanding of light (science) and sending information to another computer thousands of miles away, so that it may display the exact same message. So think twice before dissing science.

God says Two people of the same sex to lay down with each other sexually as a man and a woman would is an ABOMINATION. Get upset all you want, at the end of the day it is God who is correct. Not you, or anyone else who wants to follow after sin, or condone it.

God also says that bats are birds and rabbits chew cud. God also says that lobsters are an abomination unto you. Get upset all you want, at the end of the day, reality is reality, no matter what any holy book says. Yours is no more infallible than any others'.

Just because you cant accept the truth does not exempt it from being what it is. truth.

Oh the irony.

 

[frankleespeaking]

I do find that far to few on this forum supports same sex marrige. But I am glad that it is becoming more accepted and that the more open minded christians are not afraid to speak up.



Lots of things are "wrong" in the bible. But it is written a very long time ago and can't be applied to our time. Noone does that. And please... don't make me bring up examples of stoning and slavery... again.



Ah... so if they do not share your views on the world they are THE DEVIL. Simple way of life... I would also be like that... but I find that narrow minded people are both scary and lost so I rather listen to my heart and pray to Jesus for guidance that listen to you and your likes.



I believe you have love and compassion. You are just a bit narrow minded.



I find some sort of food disgusting, I find your views on homosexuality disgusting, I find the parts in the bible where women are treated like inferior beings disgusting. But that does not make me say that they are not a part of Gods plan.



I think it is your disgust that makes you say this.

what does that symbol represent at the bottom of your page it looks like a fist and a cross in rainbow colors