Missing the point...

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The point of the christian life is not to have a compiled set of standards to judge other people or society on.

The point is to become free from evil, evil abounds and enslaves. If you read and pray and prostrate yourself to God, and the result is that you believe you are better than those who don't do those things, you are a Pharisee.
 
I disagree, your comment is partly right and partly delusional. I say to all that whoever stands for liberalism does not stand with God, and God will not stand with them.
 
Liberalism is a feature of human thinking and indeed has no place in the church. My comment was aimed at pointing out that judgements of others also can not be a feature of the church, for judgement alone rests with God.
 
Yes indeed only Christ will have final judgement of all things. Yet no matter what we say, we will always judge others by the things they do. Also we may judge others just as we may swear by things, but if we are hypocrites in the matter, then be prepared to be judged equally. We have all sinned and no one is perfect and thus we have no right to judge others, for there is only one judge who is our Lord Christ. However i ask, will you not judge those close to you or the ones you choose to love. We all make judgments on others to see who is appropriate to stand with us. No one should associate their personal lives with those ungodly for they will corrupt your mind from seeing right from wrong and will distance you from God. The sinners in life who are wicked and vile can be so cunning to distance yourself from God. So if you choose to judge someone then do so in your own mind and do not boast to others of your judgement.

When i see someone do something ungodly and know that the truth is clear and i am no hypocrite in the matter i will judge them in my mind, not to harshly disgrace them but knowing their minds are delusional. Judging someone to be good or bad has a huge danger to everyone. To take an example, when you see someone wearing a cross around their neck you will think they are a Christian and having this assumption will make people see all things done by this person to be Christian like. Some people on this site are also a typical example, as we will think this being a Christian site we would only expect the Godly to be here, yet there are some here who call themselves Christian and know the Bible yet they go against Gods word and thus these people are not true Christians but false deceivers. Yes, some will be misguided in the beginning but once they have learnt of the Truth and then still go against it, then they are not people of God. So we must always have judgement to some extent to know the person, obviously you cannot judge by sight but once you learn personally about that person then things will add up to know who they really are inside.
 
I disagree, your comment is partly right and partly delusional. I say to all that whoever stands for liberalism does not stand with God, and God will not stand with them.

I'm beginning to think you just like to disagree with people.
 
I would say your statement is actually incomplete Ninja but you are right. It's not religion that we live by, rather by Christ. Through Him. If we live by Him and through the Holy Spirit, we automatically fulfill the law.
 
I'm beginning to think you just like to disagree with people.

This may appear so since i just wish for people to get the full wisdom of the Truth and not leave out parts that make a difference. Go back to my post on "What's next". NinJaGGS was right and i do not disagree, but simply he must acknowledge other parts to this statement to not be misguided by what people make out the Bible to mean when it truly doesn't mean what people believe it to mean. No one is perfect and i will question myself on what people say and from that i will make my decision. Since a wise man will love those who rebuke him to teach him what is right and the wicked man will despise those who rebuke him.
 
This may appear so since i just wish for people to get the full wisdom of the Truth and not leave out parts that make a difference. Go back to my post on "What's next". NinJaGGS was right and i do not disagree, but simply he must acknowledge other parts to this statement to not be misguided by what people make out the Bible to mean when it truly doesn't mean what people believe it to mean. No one is perfect and i will question myself on what people say and from that i will make my decision. Since a wise man will love those who rebuke him to teach him what is right and the wicked man will despise those who rebuke him.

Thanks for proving my point.
 
Judgement has a different connotation than discernment. Since we are called to be wise, as well as compassionate we have to be very cunning about how we go about our spiritual lives... I love the scripture you quoted about how a delusional person will hate those who rebuke him, but a righteous man will bless that man who rebukes him. If I hate the man who makes me deeply question my own beliefs then I'm not really looking at things very deeply... using the discernment I mentioned I see that the man who rebukes me does me a great service... taking that to another level (i know they don't exactly fit, but i think in this case i may have something...) Enemies do me a greater service by busting down my pride and ungodly pursuits, they cannot touch my life in God, they can only affect material unless I take it to heart what they do to me.... With a little discernment I can see how enemies have done me a great service! God bless enemies... But really, I know what I have been told through scripture, but taking that gift of divine knowledge and then twisting it to condemn my brothers and sisters all over the world is very perverted. this is a sin i struggle with daily and i am very concerned for others that they not fall into the pitfall that is encouraged to an insane degree in American society in particular.... with our freedom of choice our society cultivates an attitude of judgement and labeling, we are almost set up to judge that america is justified in military action, that america can "save" people when people, given free will as we are, often choose some very odd things that fail to bring any true joy, and quite often complete misery.. Now we even have the right to marry members of our own sex? People ask aloud where it will end... I can make a prediction that it won't end very happily... very unfortunate as we are all worth more than all of the treasure in the world.... I jump around with topics because this is all one world... there is no such thing as freedom in the way it is understood here. Freedom to become enslaved by passion? Freedom to be prideful and judge others? it all ties in together.... I used to take alot of what I say for granted.... thats why i'm pointing it out, these obvious contradictions in society and our beautiful Christian religion... and it is indeed it is not a religion, but a way of life! a most difficult and heavenly way of life, but God helps us by his power to conquer demons! as long as we have the discernment to know when we need help... i find im in great need of help very consistently... these topics i mention can have volumes and volumes written on them in explanation... but rather just read the Scripture, its all in there, how Lucifer wanted to be God.... so he usurped the position of God, the seat of judgement, for God alone is judge. Take a lesson from our man-hating chief demon, don't judge, least you fall into hell, which is here.... ready and waiting for us, in the afterlife, but also in this life, anger is hell, lust is hell, idolatry is hell, let us repent in this life before we carry that hell into eternity!
 
Freedom is in GOD! may you find true freedom in his love and peace