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N
Ok (Just so you know I'm not arguing, I'm actually wanting to understand more and these are the things which are coming to mind) So at what point do people get a bit crazy where they distort the bible and end up turning against and use "Richard Dawkins Theology" as you called it? Like the incident at the alcohol and firearms place.
And what's your opinion with female ministers? Bit of an unrelated point but what do you think of them?
And what's your opinion with female ministers? Bit of an unrelated point but what do you think of them?
you write that as if the one who wrote it thought it was supposed to be literal...it was a vision and a picture says a thoausnd words.
When they use passages like the last one you used to question Christian ethics. Don't know the incident your talking about. The bible is clear that woman should not preach or teach in the church.
When they use passages like the last one you used to question Christian ethics. Don't know the incident your talking about. The bible is clear that woman should not preach or teach in the church.
C
ok, i will give you a news article about somone raising from the dead, and you show me bideo of a talking snake, okay heres my link: Baby Found Alive in Coffin - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com
waiting for yours now
waiting for yours now
F
Lol, wow. Yeah your right a baby rose from the dead. I cant believe you would even try that. I don't need an artical, I have the Bible.
So your saying if you cant find an artical in the secular world to prove what the bible says, you don't believe it.
I just love how you presented it, "waiting for your nows" as if you just nailed this one with an internet story which cannot be confirmed as neither miracle or mistake. Amd of I was going search the internet for a talking snake so I can prove what God's said can happen. Sorry I believe God.
"There may be an investigation into the actions of the hospital staff.
This isn't the first time a premature infant has been wrongly pronounced dead." Theres your solid proof - lol.
Grow up man, prove the Bible with the Bible, not with fantasies and the internet buzz. I know atheist scorn the idea of Genesis being true as with the rest of the Bible, and cowards want to "fit in" with the world.
At the very least learn to make an argument using scripture not stories.
So your saying if you cant find an artical in the secular world to prove what the bible says, you don't believe it.
I just love how you presented it, "waiting for your nows" as if you just nailed this one with an internet story which cannot be confirmed as neither miracle or mistake. Amd of I was going search the internet for a talking snake so I can prove what God's said can happen. Sorry I believe God.
"There may be an investigation into the actions of the hospital staff.
This isn't the first time a premature infant has been wrongly pronounced dead." Theres your solid proof - lol.
Grow up man, prove the Bible with the Bible, not with fantasies and the internet buzz. I know atheist scorn the idea of Genesis being true as with the rest of the Bible, and cowards want to "fit in" with the world.
At the very least learn to make an argument using scripture not stories.
F
Context, that is why, you should try it: The very first verse tells us the book is going to be symbolic
REv 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John
John 12:31: Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
John 12:32: And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
John 12:33: This he said, signifying what death he should die.
IF I be lifted us - symbolism - the cross
Will draw all men unto me - symbolism - the gospel sent out to both Jew and Gentile for remmission of sins
John 21:18: Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.
John 21:19: This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.
The OT tabernacle, was a type, its rooms symbolized heaven (the HOly of hte holies)
Hebrews 9:7: But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
Hebrews 9:8: The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
Hebrews 9:9: Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
THe word shows symbolism, it is in the first verse of Rev, explaining to us how the message of the book was given - symbolism. Context tells us it is not to be taken literally.
REv 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John
John 12:31: Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
John 12:32: And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
John 12:33: This he said, signifying what death he should die.
IF I be lifted us - symbolism - the cross
Will draw all men unto me - symbolism - the gospel sent out to both Jew and Gentile for remmission of sins
John 21:18: Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.
John 21:19: This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.
The OT tabernacle, was a type, its rooms symbolized heaven (the HOly of hte holies)
Hebrews 9:7: But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
Hebrews 9:8: The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
Hebrews 9:9: Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
THe word shows symbolism, it is in the first verse of Rev, explaining to us how the message of the book was given - symbolism. Context tells us it is not to be taken literally.
F
evolution is an interesting thing... it is obviously a real event, but at the same time, it doesn't explain everything we see. We see examples of evolution all the time, and any scientist would be happy to point out the various subspecies of finch on the Galapagos islands. This is what is known as microevolution. In short, microevolution is the changing of a species from one subset to another. A key example is the peppered moth. With the help of 'natural' selection, (or as natural as covering trees in soot is) the peppered moth went from a primarily white species to a primarily black species. (Peppered moth evolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
On the other hand, evolution doesn't even begin to explain things like humans. Our DNA has obvious signs of intelligent design. Even the new age movement has begun to acknowledge the fact that our genetic code is far too complex and unique to have been anything other than specifically engineered. Granted, they claim the "annunaki" (ancient sumerian false gods) did the creating...
Apparently, the physical stuff needed to create a human fits on about 3% of our genome. This means that roughly 97 percent of our DNA is NOT used in producing the physical stuff we are made of... what they titled "junk" DNA. When they fed the genetic code into a computer, they found something amazing: hints of a very complex language. (DNA: The Tiny Code That's Toppling Evolution - Good News Magazine | United Church of God)
Even if there was undeniable proof that evolution could change a monkey into a human, it still doesn't destroy the idea of intelligent design. Arguing the mechanics of how something is done doesn't change the fact that it was done. Even if evolution proves to be the only driving force behind the variations in species, so what? all that proves is that there is a system in place. It doesn't say anything about why or how it is there. The theories of evolution and intelligent design are NOT mutually exclusive.
On the other hand, evolution doesn't even begin to explain things like humans. Our DNA has obvious signs of intelligent design. Even the new age movement has begun to acknowledge the fact that our genetic code is far too complex and unique to have been anything other than specifically engineered. Granted, they claim the "annunaki" (ancient sumerian false gods) did the creating...
Apparently, the physical stuff needed to create a human fits on about 3% of our genome. This means that roughly 97 percent of our DNA is NOT used in producing the physical stuff we are made of... what they titled "junk" DNA. When they fed the genetic code into a computer, they found something amazing: hints of a very complex language. (DNA: The Tiny Code That's Toppling Evolution - Good News Magazine | United Church of God)
Even if there was undeniable proof that evolution could change a monkey into a human, it still doesn't destroy the idea of intelligent design. Arguing the mechanics of how something is done doesn't change the fact that it was done. Even if evolution proves to be the only driving force behind the variations in species, so what? all that proves is that there is a system in place. It doesn't say anything about why or how it is there. The theories of evolution and intelligent design are NOT mutually exclusive.
N
I must point out however that they've found bacteria on the moon and scientist in Antarctica have found that amino acids will naturally form together through Convalent bonding. Amino acids are the basic chemicals which create life. All we are is water and amino acids. So if you left a patch of land long enough amino acids will naturally be created (from dirt) and turn into Single celled orginisms (which is what they found on the moon) This process does take thousands of years but isn't impossible. From then it's survival of the fittest taking again thousands (or millions) of years to turn into multi-celluar organisms and becoming more complex to suit the environment around them. Whether that's the actual habitat they live in or other organisms attacking them they evolve to live. That is a basic outline of the start of evolution for people which don't totally understand animals coming for mud.
It does sound far fetched at first however the universe and time is infinite so the chances of life happening is very high. I believe in evolution but that is one of the things which makes me believe in god. The whole universe was created to create life. Life is written into the dirt, the air, the sun and everything around us. Everything has lived or has the potential to live. And that I think is divine intervention
It does sound far fetched at first however the universe and time is infinite so the chances of life happening is very high. I believe in evolution but that is one of the things which makes me believe in god. The whole universe was created to create life. Life is written into the dirt, the air, the sun and everything around us. Everything has lived or has the potential to live. And that I think is divine intervention
J
This sounds so much like what some people say in response to evolution. "If we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?"
Of course you wouldn't accept such an objection.
Now, why do you believe your objection carries significance?
Not everything is a repititious cycle. There are innumerable things that only happened once, throughout history. Try the Resurrection of Christ, for example. Why doesn't Christ resurrect repeatedly? The goal was met the first time. Same thing with the snake in the garden, just on the other end of the "spiritual spectrum" one might say. The devil did what he wanted, accomplished his goals, and now he talks to every one of us in one to one private conversations, through our sinful desires and the temptations brought before us.
Of course you wouldn't accept such an objection.
Now, why do you believe your objection carries significance?
Not everything is a repititious cycle. There are innumerable things that only happened once, throughout history. Try the Resurrection of Christ, for example. Why doesn't Christ resurrect repeatedly? The goal was met the first time. Same thing with the snake in the garden, just on the other end of the "spiritual spectrum" one might say. The devil did what he wanted, accomplished his goals, and now he talks to every one of us in one to one private conversations, through our sinful desires and the temptations brought before us.
B
How can you say you're christian, and believe that evolution is true?
How can you read Genesis, and believe evolution is true?
God created man in his own image (If you actually READ genesis, it tells you this, quite clearly). And I for one, am absolutely positive that my God does NOT look like a monkey! Or pond scum!
How can you read Genesis, and believe evolution is true?
God created man in his own image (If you actually READ genesis, it tells you this, quite clearly). And I for one, am absolutely positive that my God does NOT look like a monkey! Or pond scum!