Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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Yahvah God is a denominational God. You believe so fiercely in YOUR God that you fail to acknowledge that anyone else who believes something different (even if they do worship Jesus Christ) can be righteous. So by your own words you sectarianise Christian Faith, which was exactly what Jesus prayed would not happen.
 
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'He who believes in me, shall have everlasting life'. It makes no difference in how. The rule of Jesus was love everyone, even your enemies. Don't make enemies of enemies, but treat them as friends.
 

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'He who believes in me, shall have everlasting life'. It makes no difference in how. The rule of Jesus was love everyone, even your enemies. Don't make enemies of enemies, but treat them as friends.
If telling them the truth makes you their enemy then so be it.

I do not hate them, actually find it sad to watch them deceived, if they put their zealousness into Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah the way they do that church, then how wonderful it would be.
 

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Matthew 7

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Glory to Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.
 
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loveme1, they do put their faith in Jesus Christ. Is a man any less righteous than you if he confesses his sins to Jesus Christ, repents, and then walks out of a Catholic Church? Does that make him less Christian than you are?

Repentance is repentance, no matter what label you wear.
 
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You are somehow automatically implying that no Catholic has ever done God's will. If man loves his neighbour, repents in Christ, and gives to the needy, then there is nobody who can say he is not Christian. It is not in your denomination where you find Christ, it's in your heart.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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loveme1, they do put their faith in Jesus Christ. Is a man any less righteous than you if he confesses his sins to Jesus Christ, repents, and then walks out of a Catholic Church? Does that make him less Christian than you are?

Repentance is repentance, no matter what label you wear.
I would have to disagree here. Their faith is in all of their sacraments, not in Christ. They claim faith in Christ, and even believe in him, But their faith is not in him.

No as far as the term christian goes. it depends on what you mean. A christian is a term which means a person who claims to follow Christ. Not all Christians will get to heaven though.
 
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You are somehow automatically implying that no Catholic has ever done God's will. If man loves his neighbour, repents in Christ, and gives to the needy, then there is nobody who can say he is not Christian. It is not in your denomination where you find Christ, it's in your heart.
I agree, it is not a denomination which saves you, It is the gospel which saves you. Many do the works you claim here, yet will still fall short. Because they have not placed it all on Christ but on their works.
 
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Clearly nomatter what anyone says, there will always be people who hate, even if a Catholic (or other denomination they don't agree with), puts their faith in Jesus. You tar a whole section of Christianity with the same brush as if no Catholic can make up their mind on the word by themselves. People like that, I will not even attempt to reason with.
 
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But the fdefining factor here, is that, it is Lutherian churches which changed the original faith (catholicism), not the other way round. Regardless of whether you believe in sacraments having some part in faith, the book remains the same. In fact, the Catholic bible, again, came before the protestant one. I have no problem accepting Catholic people as followers. None whatsoever.
 
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This place and this thread has been nothing but a anti-catholic hate site. This is not the love of Jesus but a declaration of war against Catholics and those who are of protestant Christianity. It even shows it among this site's administration and leaders.
 

Katy-follower

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This thread speaks a lot of the unbiblical traditions and paganistic practices of the Catholic Church. But what about the unbiblical traditions and paganistic practices of the Protestant Church? Are we partial because we belong to a certain denomination and seek to justify ourselves? Protestants killed in the same was as the Catholics did, contrary to the doctrine of Christ. Catholics gives respect unto Mary and the priests, Protestants give the same level of respect unto the pastors and the elders. Catholics claim Catechism with Scripture, Protestants claim Scripture alone, even though both forget about the Spirit of God.

If we are going to condemn the practice of one, we must be consistent and condemn the very same practice in the other. otherwise we are partial, and you know what James wrote on that.
I don't like that anyone not Catholic is labeled Protestant and viewed as believing the same as everyone in that category. The "protestant" group is a wide area and not all "protestants" are going to Heaven. Simply put, not all protestants believe in the same Gospel message and not all have the truth in them. If they did there would be no divisions/denominations. Denominations are the result of disagreements, hence separations occur. I think it was Paul who warned of this happening when he spoke to the churches.

Those who have the truth know it. Not everyone professing to be Christian is actually Christian. The sad thing is on judgement day many will find out and it will be too late for them. They will plead only to be told to "depart". If a person is not born again they will not see Heaven.

1 John is the book to read to test yourself to see if you're really a Christian!!!

Satan knows who has the truth and while he has never been able to destroy the bible completely he's corrupted the Gospel message by introducing false teachings into many churches, he's tried to encourage people to trust in the pope/priests to interpret (discouraging them from looking to God and His word for themselves). He has persecuted and killed many saints who would not deny the truth or deny Christ, all of them bible believing Christians who would not pledge allegiance to Roman authority. Satan has killed many of God's children and continues to do so. Those with the truth don't murder, it is those who do not have the truth that are vulnerable to being deceived, easily being used as puppets, carrying out the work of Satan, killing the true church of God. Do you see?

The only reason there is a lot of focus on Catholicism lately is because they are the religion involved in end time prophecy and there is concern for anyone involved in that religion. But anyone not in God's family is in the world... this means anyone who is not born again.

From what I understand, as head of State popes are immune to prosecution. However, in God's eyes - Rev 18: "For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities"
 
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But the fdefining factor here, is that, it is Lutherian churches which changed the original faith (catholicism), not the other way round. Regardless of whether you believe in sacraments having some part in faith, the book remains the same. In fact, the Catholic bible, again, came before the protestant one. I have no problem accepting Catholic people as followers. None whatsoever.
The gospel came from the apostles. not the catholic church

The Bible came from God, not the catholic church. In fact Peter while he was still writing his epistle already called pauls letters to the church scripture. So it was already seen as cannon long before the roman church came into being.

Scripture states we are saved by faith. Not by works of righteousness which we have done, Sacraments are an attempt at works of righteousness in order to earn salvation. It does not matter what any church says, catholic or not. If your trying to earn salvation by any deed, you are trying to earn your way to heaven. And not placing your faith in the one and only work which can save you.

I don't hate anyone, Like Christ, I am willing that none should parish, but all have eternal life. Hate comes from religion. It statrted with cain and abel. Cain hated abel because God rejected his work of trying to earn Gods love with his human good. That is where religion and religious hate started. Sadly it still remains, I fear it will remain until Christ returns and sets us all straight..
 

Katy-follower

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This place and this thread has been nothing but a anti-catholic hate site. This is not the love of Jesus but a declaration of war against Catholics and those who are of protestant Christianity. It even shows it among this site's administration and leaders.
Sharing truth is not hatred. To some the truth may hurt, but it needs to be shared. Truth is considered hate to those who don't like the truth. Jesus told us to expose unfruitful works, not to unite with people that follow false doctrines.

We're dealing with a spiritual warfare, where truth is being attacked with falsehoods. If you know a cure for cancer would you not want everyone to know about it? Same thing, if you knew someone was being deceived would you remain quiet or share it? But then you expect that person to be defensive and attack you for exposing the deception. People who are being deceived cannot see it. However, when we are saved our eyes are opened to all deception so we can discern and also help others around us, even if they don't want to hear it.

Ephesians 5:11: "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them"
 
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This place and this thread has been nothing but a anti-catholic hate site. This is not the love of Jesus but a declaration of war against Catholics and those who are of protestant Christianity. It even shows it among this site's administration and leaders.
Correction: against yhose who are not of protestant Christianity
 
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Sharing truth is not hatred. To some the truth may hurt, but it needs to be shared. Truth is considered hate to those who don't like the truth. Jesus told us to expose unfruitful works, not to unite with people that follow false doctrines.

We're dealing with a spiritual warfare, where truth is being attacked with falsehoods. If you know a cure for cancer would you not want everyone to know about it? Same thing, if you knew someone was being deceived would you remain quiet or share it? But then you expect that person to be defensive and attack you for exposing the deception. People who are being deceived cannot see it. However, when we are saved our eyes are opened to all deception so we can discern and also help others around us, even if they don't want to hear it.

Ephesians 5:11: "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them"
There is no such thing as a "holy or spiritual war." War promotes violence and killing and war is a sad and violent event. God does not approve of violence against one another.
 

Katy-follower

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There is no such thing as a "holy or spiritual war." War promotes violence and killing and war is a sad and violent event. God does not approve of violence against one another.
Yes there is. Those in God's family are not in the world.

Spiritual warfare is against the evil one in this world (aka Satan). This is why Christians must put on the full armor of God.

Ephesians 6:10-12: "Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” (this mention here of 'evil in the heavenly realms' tells us that Satan is using some churches to deceive people)
 

Katy-follower

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P.S. Shyness - I'm not talking about a flesh war, I'm talking about a spiritual war. God does not approve of violence, correct. There is one truth but many are deceived by Satan and do not like or want to know the truth.
 
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They can ban me for all I care for and I would not lose a bit of sleep over it but to tell you the truth, this place feels very much like a KluKluxKlan rally and a war site against Catholic people. Donating to this site for me is the same as donating to a hate group like Westboro Baptist Church.
Just to touch on the KKK. I've had some people on this site tell me that the KKK was an organization formed to hunt down Protestants, when I heard that my jaw dropped. In the time the KKK was really active and strong they lynched Jews, Catholics, and black folks; also in every race riot it was Catholic parishes that got burned down along with black churches.

So how someone can say with a serious face that the KKK is a Catholic organization leaves me dumbfounded.
 

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Telling you the truth does not mean we hate you.
It is HOW you tell YOUR UNDERSTANDING of the truth.
You're a bigot who masquerades her fanaticism with praises and false pities, and robotic one-liners.

Sharing truth is not hatred. To some the truth may hurt, but it needs to be shared.
Dear Katy, with all due respect,
It is HOW the message is sent. Also, it is HIGHLY PRETENTIOUS to claim absolute knowledge of this "TRUTH", as if your nom-denominational denomination (ironic, uh?) is all-knowing and superior to all others. It's the worst case of elitism and fanaticism.

Even more pitiful, is the administration's purposive decision to make this thread a "sticky", so that the bashing, falsehoods, accusations, and hypocrisy can linger on and on, as fair game.
Hypocrisy at its lowest.