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I didn't kick her out of the house, but I did tell her when her kittens grew up, she'd have to work for her tuna fish!
L
Everyone has a right to choose what they do, that's equality, but the consequence is equally equal.The revelation of God is clear, Homosexulaity is a work of the flesh, and like all works of the flesh their end is not good. A spiritual born true christian will walk out of homosexuality and all other things contrary to the nature of God if they truly continue to follow Him.
is it an abomination to the Lord? yes. If they are atheist they have more to worry about than their marriage. I don't picket in a line and say I'm against it, I don't tell any of the sinners in this whole world that I'm against them. This world is littered with it. I am pretty sure the topic was a religious one, and the answer obviously stands.
Anything that is outside of Gods will is a sin. (that's my belief) when we grow to know God personally and let His words speak in our hearts and genuinely listen to Him, The Holy Spirit makes things pretty clear. There is a difference in backsliding then repenting and making excuses to validate ones own choices. People knit pick in all things, this is no surprise but lets sum it up for everybody.. There are two paths. The wide path (our will) the narrow path (Gods will) Line up everything in your life into one of these two categories and maybe if you are honest you'll see where you really stand.
R
They're both an abomination and I think the Bible is very clear about tht, here is n example:
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
R
I know same sex marriage and relationships are sin..but we need to love those people..its the goodness of God that leads people to repentance..We got to make sure we do not look down on anyone who is struggling with sin as if we are better, or judge them and then do not provide any help to them like the Pharisees did back when Our Lord Jesus Christ was walking this earth..
We must be Jesus to these people..I recall Jesus being quite honest and open to the samaritan woman who had 5 husbands and the one she was living with was not her husband..yet she didn't call her a loose woman..or judge her, but he told her the truth in love. And because he did she went to her house and said, come see this great prophet of God who told me things i had never told him..things i was hiding in my heart..yet he sees everything.
I do believe if we in the church would be more love minded and grace minded maybe we would actually get an opportunity to share with these people..but if we insult them..call them the F word, or dismiss them because we don't want to see them as potential christians/Christ followers..then we are missing out on the great Harvest that Jesus himself said is white and ready to be harvested..but the laborers are few!
We must be Jesus to these people..I recall Jesus being quite honest and open to the samaritan woman who had 5 husbands and the one she was living with was not her husband..yet she didn't call her a loose woman..or judge her, but he told her the truth in love. And because he did she went to her house and said, come see this great prophet of God who told me things i had never told him..things i was hiding in my heart..yet he sees everything.
I do believe if we in the church would be more love minded and grace minded maybe we would actually get an opportunity to share with these people..but if we insult them..call them the F word, or dismiss them because we don't want to see them as potential christians/Christ followers..then we are missing out on the great Harvest that Jesus himself said is white and ready to be harvested..but the laborers are few!
R
Consistently cheating on your taxes is a bad lifestyle..being a religious unloving pridefull zealot is a harmfull lifestyle..being a racist bigot is a harmfull lifestyle..
Not loving others when it clearly says in 1 john 4 that God is love and love s from God and it is who he is! verses 7-8.
That said..we have a love deficit in the Church..I hate to admit that..but we do, we are more concerned with other christians seeing us as spiritual than doing God's work. Which is to love the world and connect with them in order to show them Jesus. Stop trying to clean them up before bringing them in church! Did you clean house before Jesus accepted you? No, he took you as you were..face value..because he loved you and to him you were worth it. Did the prodigal son clean up before the Father took him in? No, but he came towards the Father..and the Father came running! Running to his son! Unashamed of him..accepting him..yes even restoring him! Luke 15:22.
Be Thankfull that God didn't give you what you deserved..
He loved you, to the point of giving his son to die for you..for the gay and lesbian too!
He's not a respector of persons..quit being so particular about a certain sin, for you are not free from sin to cast any stone..john 8:7
Not loving others when it clearly says in 1 john 4 that God is love and love s from God and it is who he is! verses 7-8.
That said..we have a love deficit in the Church..I hate to admit that..but we do, we are more concerned with other christians seeing us as spiritual than doing God's work. Which is to love the world and connect with them in order to show them Jesus. Stop trying to clean them up before bringing them in church! Did you clean house before Jesus accepted you? No, he took you as you were..face value..because he loved you and to him you were worth it. Did the prodigal son clean up before the Father took him in? No, but he came towards the Father..and the Father came running! Running to his son! Unashamed of him..accepting him..yes even restoring him! Luke 15:22.
Be Thankfull that God didn't give you what you deserved..
He loved you, to the point of giving his son to die for you..for the gay and lesbian too!
He's not a respector of persons..quit being so particular about a certain sin, for you are not free from sin to cast any stone..john 8:7
I agree with what you stated Rauleetoe, however it is important to note that we should never deceive the lost by softening the truth.
Matthew 3:7
But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? (john the baptist)
Matthew 11:11
Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist:
(Jesus Christ)
Matthew 3:7
But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? (john the baptist)
Matthew 11:11
Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist:
(Jesus Christ)
James 5:19-20
King James Version (KJV)
19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
yes there are those who profess to be christians who do not dwell in the Word or in love. They are in danger as well, for they do err.
However it is important to note that anytime you tell an individual they are in danger of hell fire they do get angry and say that you hate them. For the world hates the truth. It is a two edged blade.
King James Version (KJV)
19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
yes there are those who profess to be christians who do not dwell in the Word or in love. They are in danger as well, for they do err.
However it is important to note that anytime you tell an individual they are in danger of hell fire they do get angry and say that you hate them. For the world hates the truth. It is a two edged blade.
Clearly its not against nature.
Homosexual behavior in animals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of animals displaying homosexual behavior - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
but then youll probably have an excuse for this too.
And I havent seen anyone arguing that homosexuality isnt wrong, yeah its a sin. Great, other sinners get married all the time. so to be against same sex marriage is just picking and choosing your prejudices.
Homosexual behavior in animals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of animals displaying homosexual behavior - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
but then youll probably have an excuse for this too.
And I havent seen anyone arguing that homosexuality isnt wrong, yeah its a sin. Great, other sinners get married all the time. so to be against same sex marriage is just picking and choosing your prejudices.
M
As a Christian you are way out of line. The only time that we have nothing to do with homosexuals is when they confess to be a brother or sister in Christ. Other wise as a Christian we pray for them and love them. Jesus hates the sin, not the sinner. Who are you to change the commandments of God? I would suggest that you read Romans and 1 and 2 Corinthians. But before you read, pray to God for understanding. Cgeers
R
I never said that friend..I speak with conviction from a person who has been forgiven much..and i feel even if you feel in your heart your intentions are right and you could very well be saying all the 'right things' but are not doing it in love, in a loving manner..or just after meeting someone and never giving a chance to cultivate a friendship and build trust and you just go off on them about their sin, without really taking the time to know them..how is that the answer? It's not..
might i suggest to the avid book reader to look into the book i am a few pages short of finishing called 'unchristian' by Dave Kinnaman and Gabe Lyons. It's not 'going soft' or dismissing sin/licensing sin as some have thought or may accuse those who are gracious and love conscious of doing. If you read books, and have the money to but the book, its been a life changing book for me. I feel every christian should read this book. I think you'd understand what i mean by what i said, if you would read this book..then you may see that i am not excusing anything..but wishing to win people one person at a time..give them time..God was patient with you..so be patient with people!
2 peter 3:9
might i suggest to the avid book reader to look into the book i am a few pages short of finishing called 'unchristian' by Dave Kinnaman and Gabe Lyons. It's not 'going soft' or dismissing sin/licensing sin as some have thought or may accuse those who are gracious and love conscious of doing. If you read books, and have the money to but the book, its been a life changing book for me. I feel every christian should read this book. I think you'd understand what i mean by what i said, if you would read this book..then you may see that i am not excusing anything..but wishing to win people one person at a time..give them time..God was patient with you..so be patient with people!
2 peter 3:9
R
Unfortunately Moe, some will resort to proving they are spiritually superior..it's hard to be silent when such Pharisee like people spew their religious rules and 'criteria' to become a Christ follower..yet none of these are lifting a finger to help the gay..to help the lesbian..to help the single mom who had a baby out of wedlock..to help the person who was raised in church but was hurt in church so is now an agnostic..
How about loving people for a change folks..God did it for us through Jesus. Why do we think we are above loving others at face value, seeing the potential in them to maybe become Christ followers..and giving them the time and respect to actually give this an honest chance?
It is a thought..although i may be aiming too high for some..
How about loving people for a change folks..God did it for us through Jesus. Why do we think we are above loving others at face value, seeing the potential in them to maybe become Christ followers..and giving them the time and respect to actually give this an honest chance?
It is a thought..although i may be aiming too high for some..
S
*clears throat*
Acts 10:9-23 "About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.” “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.” The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”
Colossians 2:16 "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day."
1 Timothy 4:1-3 "The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth."
Plenty of stuff about food. Nothing about homosexuality now being acceptable.
Acts 10:9-23 "About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.” “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.” The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”
Colossians 2:16 "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day."
1 Timothy 4:1-3 "The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth."
Plenty of stuff about food. Nothing about homosexuality now being acceptable.